GOP Maintains Anti-Gay Party Platform In 2016

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First world in wealth, third world in morals

Yeah no. Our morals are pretty good, thank you very much. I'd very much take them over "OMG you are different, we'll hurt/shun you!"
Maybe you'd feel much more at home in the Middle East or something like that?

[s_bushido]

Which one do you think God and nature intended?

God doesn't exist and we constantly defy what nature "intended" throughout our daily lives.

[Dendrek]

First world in wealth, third world in morals

Third world morality is almost exactly your version of morality. So... yeah...

[SirBeef]

I would want to see long studies to prove that a homosexual couple isn't detrimental to the child...

There have been. There have been studies on single parent homes(mother or father), community raised children(raised by multiple family members, or tribe in some settings), and gay families. It was found that you do not need a mother and a father to be raised well. You have good and bad results form all groups. It is more about how kids are raised not what sex the parents are or the family structure.

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At this point I fell like the republicans are almost tanking the election on purpose. It's almost a how to now run an election blue print.

Since they cannot rig districts for a national election, Republicans have almost no chance in national races. Their base and demographic that they speak for is ever shrinking.

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We also have ones forcing kinder gardeners into sexual reassignment surgery and prostitution rings...

We do not have any long term data on the subject.

You say that as if no straight parents have done terrible things to children ever.

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It will be better than the state, that's for sure. And it'll probably be slightly worse than a nuclear heterosexual family, and far worse than a group situation. Those are my predictions.

That is certainly not the case. Traditional families are not any better suited for raising a child than a communal group or homosexual partners. It is about how they are raised. Not by whom. Children have been raised by groups for thousands of years. Society managed to progress just fine. The traditional family setting is relatively new in the scope of humanity. Both work as does single parenting. How it is done is more important that who it is done by.

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Here, you won't find any party who would want to ban homosexuality(sure, the SGP is against marriage equality though), yet you'll find plenty of rigth wingers in 'Murica who do think its a good idea lol.

No wonder they are such a laughing stock here. Yet the Pro-Russians here seem to think we all love the U.S
Its endless entertainment, I tell ya.

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I though Americans loved freedom? Was I mistaken?

I hope you're not pro-gun.

Freedom only exists for the well to do white male Christians. Didn't you know that?

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You have to be SOMETHING. America will unfortunately not vote for you otherwise.

That time is coming to an end fortunately. Believers are decreasing in this country every year. 23% do not identify with any religious sect. It will only be a matter of time when being something matters.

[Adam Jensen]

2. Who said it is non harmful??

The fact that no one has proven that homosexuality is harmful in any way, shape or form, to individuals or society.

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God doesn't exist and we constantly defy what nature "intended" throughout our daily lives.

I'm sure "nature" intended that I write you a message from potentially thousands of miles away that you can read within seconds . . . a message that very likely made a quick trip to space before arriving on your screen.

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I don't hate the person i hate what they are doing. Big difference and one that most people can't seperate.

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Think about what you just said.

1. Man and women have a normal biological and natural birth.
2. Gays need to rely on a donor, have a medical procedure performed and one of the couple has zero genetic relationship with the baby.

Which one do you think God and nature intended?

Infertile couples rely on a donor. Why does no one rant about them?

[SirBeef]

Nah just overlooked it.

You need to keep up a replacement rate. Or you have to have a small population that can rely on itself without needing outside sources of food or goods to survive.

World birthrates are positive, and immigration is a thing. Only 100% pure Native Americans have no ties to immigrants. However they immigrated here also.

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Yea but murders only go to prison for 5 years in England so we shouldn't really care how you all do things.

Yet their murder rate is significantly lower than ours.

[Deleted]

Since they cannot rig districts for a national election, Republicans have almost no chance in national races. Their base and demographic that they speak for is ever shrinking.

It is. It's like being a party who advocated for segregation not too long ago - sure, you will find supporters, but their numbers will shrink with every passing year.
Either they adapt, or they stay on the Hardcore-Christian train and become irrelevant.

[SirBeef]

Well, I'd imagine he's also pro-lifer, and most of them don't care at all what happens to children after they are born. Whether they starve to death or end up in prison, they don't care, as long as they get to control people by banning abortions.

Typical modern day republican. Keep government out of our lives, except if you are gay, a minority, or a woman. Then we will be all in it telling you what you are not allowed to do.

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So a neckbeard who gets off on trolling?

Probably wears a trilby thinking it's a fedora too.

[Deleted]

Point in case. You don't agree with me which means you are a bigot/victim/entitled/privileged

Where did I call you a bigot?

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Think about what you just said.

1. Man and women have a normal biological and natural birth.
2. Gays need to rely on a donor, have a medical procedure performed and one of the couple has zero genetic relationship with the baby.

Which one do you think God and nature intended?

Many homosexuals had children by fucking women this isn't a secret lol

[dubious_doomhammer]

Typical modern day republican. Keep government out of our lives, except if you are gay, a minority, or a woman. Then we will be all in it telling you what you are not allowed to do.

Yeah, honestly I've never understood the small government answer. It seems, at least to me, that left wing governments give their citizens more rights and freedoms than right wing governments do ... except in the case of guns I guess.

[unfilteredJW]

Which one do you think God and nature intended?

This doesn't matter at all.

[Adam Jensen]

Yeah, honestly I've never understood the small government answer. It seems, at least to me, that left wing governments give their citizens more rights and freedoms than right wing governments do ... except in the case of guns I guess.

They're talking about physical size. A small government that can fit in a vagina to make sure there are no abortions, can fit between transistors to block porn and can fit in a town hall to block gay marriages.

[Cthulhu 2020]

So this gay marriage discussion is all well and good, but let's look at the OP and get on topic for a second:

The majority of America supports the rights for gays to get married, even large portions of the GOP. By holding onto draconian beliefs that gays should not marry the GOP is only hurting its chances at getting people into office and thus affecting change that they probably believe matters.

So which is it going to be, hold onto outdated beliefs and screw your political pull, or keep your bigotry to yourself and go for political change that actually matters? The crusade against gay marriage is just that, a religious crusade. You can either hold banning it above all other issues of importance, or let it go.

[unfilteredJW]

Yeah, honestly I've never understood the small government answer. It seems, at least to me, that left wing governments give their citizens more rights and freedoms than right wing governments do ... except in the case of guns I guess.

Smaller government is code for "I want to make rules locally that people have to follow, but not have anyone tell me what to do."

[JohnBrown1917]

Both gay and straight people can marry the persons of opposite sex. They are treated equally. It is not about hatred, disdain, etc.: The marriage is defined as a juridically significant union between one man and one woman. Sexual orientation has nothing to do with laws.

Definded by who? Since when do defintions not change over the course of time?


91% in the netherlands are for Same-sex marriage and only 7% oppose it(yay, bible belt).

[Garnier Fructis]

Which one do you think God and nature intended?

Nature doesn't have any intent. This needs emphasizing. Nature doesn't have a will. It doesn't care.

[Yvaelle]

Nature doesn't have any intent. This needs emphasizing. Nature doesn't have a will. It doesn't care.

Mother nature is a cold bitch

[BannedForViews]

World birthrates are positive, and immigration is a thing. Only 100% pure Native Americans have no ties to immigrants. However they immigrated here also.

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Yet their murder rate is significantly lower than ours.

What does one have to do with the other? I cant believe this is how you guys debate. Also if you remove our minority gang violence then no, their murder rates are not very different. Also their assault and violent crime rates are a lot higher per capita.

[Underverse]

Nature doesn't have any intent. This needs emphasizing. Nature doesn't have a will. It doesn't care.

Nature doesn't have intent, but that doesn't mean behaviors that more closely approximate the non-stress conditions under which we evolved aren't usually better.

I think his question still has merit if rephrased.

[BannedForViews]

Yeah, honestly I've never understood the small government answer. It seems, at least to me, that left wing governments give their citizens more rights and freedoms than right wing governments do ... except in the case of guns I guess.

You mean like the right to free education, and free health care, and free monthly checks so you dont have to work?

Yea, those arent rights.