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    Quote Originally Posted by bufferunderrun View Post
    cuz we are playing civ V and after a coup everyone go back to doing their crap without consequences? Did you think that all those who support Erdogan will just say who care and accept it?
    If the Turkeys history is repeating it self then it would not be as messy as you would imagine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lei Shi View Post
    Who will grant him exile though? Russia surely won't, Germany and by extension the EU neither, after what he pulled with those 2.
    Venezuela maybe? LOL
    They will give him sanctuary just to get him out Turkey so he can't cause problems there. They will also make nice noises about the rule of law, etc, but not lift a finger to help him.
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    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripster42 View Post
    Na, you're still good.

    cool cool, glad to hear it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raldazzar View Post
    link? please
    It's over now but it was broadcast on Haberturk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbmktGjjIcI

    He was basically saying the coup will be unsuccessful and was urging people to take to the streets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thilicen View Post
    Erdogan saying people should get out into the streets and protest. This from the same man who has been doing everything to make protests illegal. My fucking God that's some sweet irony right there.
    Erdogan is a joke.

  7. #347
    Quote Originally Posted by squeeze View Post
    NBC reporting US military source claiming Erdogan denied landing rights in Istanbul and seeking asylum in Germany.
    Bwhahahha

    Maybe, just maybe, the world will get lucky and a f16 will accidently blow up his plane.

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    Turkey's state TV just went offline.

  9. #349
    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    Regardless, if you support democracy you wouldn't be supporting this coup unless you're a hypocrite.
    Unless, you know. part of this is about the latest round of elections being corrupt, and erdogan using his power to prevent an investigation into the shenanigans that happened during the election. But it's not like we expect sense coming from you.

  10. #350
    Quote Originally Posted by Barnabas View Post
    So is merkel still interested in offering eu membership now?
    That's a pretty stupid and ignorant comment given the well known fact that Germany has long been opposed to Turkey joining the EU. The UK on the other hand has been the country most in favor. Turkey has been negotiating membership since 1987, my entire lifetime. For about 20 years this was a very good thing because the country did great progress in rule of law and towards becoming a real liberal democracy, relative to where it stood before negotiations began. Then over the last 10 years it has gone backwards, and then they weren't even close to fulfilling the requirements 10 years ago, let alone now. And so David Cameron was right to state that at this rate they wouldn't join until the year 3000 and laugh at the stupidity at their opponents when they suggested Turkish membership was imminent. It is not. The UK meanwhile has long been one of the countries consistently in favor of Turkey joining the EU. What is a fact though is that for 20 of the last 30 years the EU membership negotiations was a very positive influence on the direction of Turkey. So keeping the door open with Turkey is a good thing. Once they fulfill all the criteria and can join, we can talk again. If you are worried I am quite certain there is at least one country that would oppose it, and that is all it takes as every country have veto right on new members. It's enough for Cyprus or Bulgaria to oppose it, disregarding Germany's consistent opposition.

  11. #351
    Quote Originally Posted by Crispin View Post
    Probably also abit more paranoid it'll happen to him.

    And adios Erdogan, the EU should send this asshole to north korea.
    Probably too late for Russia. Maybe a decade ago. But Putin's successfully purged the Russian military of anyone not regime loyal, and turned it into a Chinese-model force where connections and bribery, rather than professional experience, get you promoted.

    Erdogan's spent the past six or seven years trying to do just that, but Turkey's military very, very tight relationship with the US military in particular prevented him from doing much more than dismissing (and then going after) senior leaders he didn't like.

    Russia's problem really is what happens when Putin dies in the next 10 or 15 years. He may look healthy, but he is a lot older looking than even a few years ago, and when you hit 70, stuff starts breaking down.

  12. #352
    Quote Originally Posted by Drazail View Post
    The fact that to this date some people think military coup is more effective "in the long run" makes me loose faith in humanity. Whith ISIS, PKK and all terrorist groups in syria This is going to rip turkey apart.
    Well, let's hope it's over quickly and there's no bloodshed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexton View Post
    So if you support democracy you shouldnt support the guys working to make sure democracy is in place eh what ? If a nation is founded with certain principles they have all the right to make sure they are upheld.
    The military is taking over from a democratically elected government. That isn't even arguable. Go look at the results of the election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tauror View Post
    It appears could be a part of the army that supports the islamic radicalism. That's fricking scary.
    Oh that's just great. And here I was hoping getting rid of Erdogan would be a good thing for Turkey.
    Putin khuliyo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    The military is taking over from a democratically elected government. That isn't even arguable. Go look at the results of the election.
    Again, go learn more about Turkey and the role of the military.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    The military is taking over from a democratically elected government. That isn't even arguable. Go look at the results of the election.
    And that elected official is working hard as fuck to ensure there are no more elections after that one, making protests and speaking up illegal, how is that helping democracy? A coup can sometimes be a natural reaction to a leader/government taking it way too far.

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    Whew...

    Hey all you turks out there, be careful playing Pokémon go tonight

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kontinuum View Post
    Anyone playing Pokemon Go in Istanbul?

    Damn, you beat me to it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Jensen View Post
    Oh that's just great. And here I was hoping getting rid of Erdogan would be a good thing for Turkey.
    Fear not! From recent updates it looks to be the secular part of the military.

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    The worst thing is, I am out of BEER! And I can't go outside because Marshall Law.

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