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  1. #921
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tauror View Post
    "He", who? What the hell are you even talking about?
    About erdogan

    https://twitter.com/agirecudi/status/754095887526170624

    THis is the kind of shit erdogan suports

    Learn more about turkey

  2. #922
    The army weren't willing to shoot the civilians and just got overrun

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy View Post
    Hitler was also elected democratically, and your argument is?
    The U.S. is also supporting them.

    The President spoke tonight by phone with Secretary of State John Kerry to discuss the events in Turkey.

    The President and Secretary agreed that all parties in Turkey should support the democratically-elected Government of Turkey, show restraint, and avoid any violence or bloodshed.

    The Secretary underscored that the State Department will continue to focus on the safety and security of U.S. citizens in Turkey. The President asked the Secretary to continue to keep him updated as the situation unfolds.

    – WHITE HOUSE STATEMENT

  4. #924
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slinkypoe View Post
    The Associated Press
    @AP
    BREAKING: Turkish national intelligence spokesman says coup attempt has been "repelled.

    And it's quiet again.
    They aren't distributing such soundbites for us, they are for the Turkish average Joe (Mehmet?) who don't have a fucking clue which way to jump. Both sides will understand anything they say will be picked up and passed round and find its way back in.

  5. #925
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy View Post
    Hitler was also elected democratically, and your argument is?
    Oh shit

    Now you trigered americans

    This guys really have 0 knowledge of what erdogan really represents

  6. #926
    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    The U.S. is also supporting them.
    And that does change something?

  7. #927
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    The US does not need to keep on good terms with anyone. It is everyone else who needs to keep on good terms with the US. Good god, who killed all the realists in politics and replaced them with constructivists?
    Not rushing to support Erdogan isn't even 'bad terms'
    He could have said, I welcome this change of leadership, I think Erdogan is a crazy Islamist, And still US-Turkish relations would have been fine if he survived.

  8. #928
    Quote Originally Posted by rukya View Post
    Oh shit

    Now you trigered americans

    This guys really have 0 knowledge of what erdogan really represents
    Yeah, I know. They're brainwashed zombies, saying "BUT HE WAS ELECTED DEMOCRATICALLY!".

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Half of you people going on about "democratically elected" would be calling for coup if Trump got elected.
    Exactly.

  9. #929
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    Gotta use tool for the right job, bro.

    In Europe we used liberal democracy.
    In Latin America it was dictatorships.
    In the Middle East it was cozying up to Saudis and their client neighbors, and post-Nasser Arab nationalists.
    In Asia-Pacific, it was highly varied, from South Korea's gradual democratic transition to the rebuilding of Japan, to Philippines transition, the ANZUS partnership, Thailand and Vietnam.

    Don't be so rigid. All that matters is the policy, not who is executing it. Worrying who executes it gets the US another Egypt+Morsi situation, which we'll be spending years rebuilding that relationship thanks to Obama's truly epically immense inept managing of that.
    So apart from in Europe, where there was political will to achieve long term peace as proven by treaties as far back as 1951, where exactly did your policies work?
    Just curios.

  10. #930
    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Half of you people going on about "democratically elected" would be calling for coup if Trump got elected.
    This is MMO-Champion friend. It'd be quite a bit more than half.
    Whaleshark /spits on your science.

  11. #931
    Quote Originally Posted by Consternation View Post
    The army weren't willing to shoot the civilians and just got overrun
    The army is only opposed to the government and its forces. Not the people. It gains nothing by shooting the people it feels its fighting for.

  12. #932
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuntantee View Post
    Link?

    /10chars
    it was on state tv

    https://twitter.com/anadoluagency?lang=en

    http://www.ntv.com.tr/canli-yayin/ntv
    Last edited by Barnabas; 2016-07-15 at 11:54 PM.

  13. #933
    Quote Originally Posted by Dakushisai View Post
    There's a lot of misinformation being spread right now. Don't think it's failing, they've been succesfull every time in the past century.
    The majority of the military seems to be not behind this. The police is fighting this and there are a shitton of people out on the streets atm. Everything points to a civil war, not a successful coup. If the coupers don't manage to actually assassinate (or apprehend) Erdogan, this will end in desaster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy View Post
    And that does change something?

    Kind of strange to see the U.S. supporting them while Americans on here are supporting the undemocratic coup.

  15. #935
    Quote Originally Posted by Eazy View Post
    Hitler was also elected democratically, and your argument is?
    No he wasn't. He never reached the votes to make a majority government and was placed in the chancellorship by Hindenburg, with the point of being a new election which were likely going to cause the Nazis to lose support. But Hindenburg's death + Backroom politics + paramilitary voter intimidation + arrests of political opponents + later on Reichstag fire was what put Hitler in full power. None of which come under the nice old phrase of "Freely elected."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Half of you people going on about "democratically elected" would be calling for coup if Trump got elected.
    Well he has no chance of being elected so we will never know.

  17. #937
    Quote Originally Posted by markos82 View Post
    Well Germany and England refused to give him an asylum, everything is possible
    Where did you hear this? The only official statement by a German spokesman was "We support the democratically elected Government of Turkey". Not "we don't give him asylum."

    Erdogan is on his way to Ankara as far as I know.
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  18. #938
    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    Kind of strange to see the U.S. supporting them while Americans on here are supporting the undemocratic coup.
    Just because Erdogan was democratically elected that doesn't mean he isn't trying to be a dictator.

  19. #939
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    Quote Originally Posted by rukya View Post
    About erdogan

    https://twitter.com/agirecudi/status/754095887526170624

    THis is the kind of shit erdogan suports

    Learn more about turkey
    Who said I don't know? I'm European, Europe doesn't have the luxury of a democratic leader spitting on an ally. I can talk as a citizen that keep asking for reforms and for votes for them and consider Erdogan a cancer that should be removed.

    The coup attempt, even a failure, might trigger his remove.

  20. #940
    Quote Originally Posted by rukya View Post
    About erdogan

    https://twitter.com/agirecudi/status/754095887526170624

    THis is the kind of shit erdogan suports

    Learn more about turkey
    Lol, meanwhile you are sharing tweets posted by a person who openly supports a terrorist organization (PKK).

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