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    "Erdogan says traitors in military are taking orders from Pennsylvania, where opposition leader Gulen is based."

    This guy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ji-tae View Post
    Pro-Erdogan-lover detected.

    He actually said those things. He didn't even simply imply them.
    Do you speak Turkish? Because at this stage, I'd only trust a first hand source on this until we have news translators confirming this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Renyo View Post
    It was translated in that way, can you give us another translation?
    He mentioned several things. He said the rogue Islamists with the military will be punished. Don't remember the "gift from god" part. We have several phrases like that, nothing religious or a sort of religious chant.

    Nothing fancy in that speech. Your usual post-coup not-yet-arrested politician speech.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    Do you speak Turkish? Because at this stage, I'd only trust a first hand source on this until we have news translators confirming this.
    The translator on Sky News translated it like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renyo View Post
    The translator on Sky News translated it like that.
    I'll wait until more translators confirm this. If he said those things, we're looking at him completely losing the plot.
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    Reuters quotes Mr Erdogan, who is still speaking on TV, as saying that he plans to "clean up" the army
    Well this will be interesting. >.>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slant View Post
    I'll wait until more translators confirm this. If he said those things, we're looking at him completely losing the plot.
    RT translators say the same, obviously what he said by now.
    Worgen hard, or hardly worgen?

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    Erdogan going the Stalin route then? Okay, watch the military react to this. It'd be funny if they did a 180° now.

    "Oh, he wants to clean us up now, does he? We'll see about that, we're now part of the coup btw."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    They had elections last year. You did see that right?
    Yes, and...? Less than fourteen percent of the country voted for him. To me, and many other people, that's so ridiculously low that it should simply be thrown out until they can find a candidate who can get a majority vote.

  10. #1290
    The coup group declared as an armed terrorist organisation, by Erdoğan. Lol, if armed terrorist organisations have supersonic bombers and fighters, rest of the world should be very afraid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Templar 331 View Post
    Well this will be interesting. >.>
    So some reports are saying that it was an Islamic extremist faction within the military.

    Tinfoil hat time, this was a ploy by Erdogan to give him cause to "clean up the military" and purge people who would lead a military-lead coup against him in order to solidify his power entirely.

    I haven't been following the political situation in Turkey for awhile, but if he's really as close to a dictator as some paint him as, this would seem plausible given the shoddy job of a coup being done.

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    The army was going to be cleaned anyway. In the next military council, the rogue officers were planning to be retired. They say, they conducted a coup before getting retired from the Army.

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    So, US forces at Incirlik have continued operations against ISIS.

    Imagine you're a jet pilot about to drop some bombs on ISIS. You lift off, go about your business, kill a few bad dudes, RTB and are greeted by the tower with "Welcome back, oh btw, we almost got a new Government here, better fly in without pos lights on... things are still unclear."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ji-tae View Post
    Erdogan :

    "turkey is not the old turkey anymore"
    "clean up the army"
    "gift from allah"

    oh boy ...
    wouldnt the "turkey is not the old turkey anymore" and "clean up the army" part rise up the rest of the army? isnt that what they want to prevent? Im confused what the hell is going to happen at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlarStormbringer View Post
    Yes, and...? Less than fourteen percent of the country voted for him. To me, and many other people, that's so ridiculously low that it should simply be thrown out until they can find a candidate who can get a majority vote.
    The AKP won 23,681,926 million votes 49.50% last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brubear View Post
    So some reports are saying that it was an Islamic extremist faction within the military.

    Tinfoil hat time, this was a ploy by Erdogan to give him cause to "clean up the military" and purge people who would lead a military-lead coup against him in order to solidify his power entirely.

    I haven't been following the political situation in Turkey for awhile, but if he's really as close to a dictator as some paint him as, this would seem plausible given the shoddy job of a coup being done.
    Seeing as they already have the names of the people in the coup it isn't that hard to believe.....

    The state-run Anadolu news agency has also published what it describes as a "list of those who planned the coup attempt". Col Kose appears at the top.
    https://twitter.com/anadoluajansi/st...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

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    In other words, business as usual in Turkey.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IcyScales View Post
    wouldnt the "turkey is not the old turkey anymore" and "clean up the army" part rise up the rest of the army? isnt that what they want to prevent? Im confused what the hell is going to happen at this point.
    Get a feeling that Erdogan is basically playing a game to get an excuse to start a purge.

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    So some reports are saying that it was an Islamic extremist faction within the military.
    By islamic extremists he means the gulen movement.

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