Florida Man Shoots at Teens Playing Pokemon Go

[Cthulhu 2020]

Whether or not he's innocent under the law is kind of beside the point. He was clearly in the wrong, and was acting like a lot of people have been with guns lately. They think they're cowboy vigilantes.

[SidFwuff]

Honestly, I'm often on the side of shooter in self defense cases... but holy shit.. this was a paranoia filled decision. If his house was actually broken into... sure.. a window broken? Something missing? But this was way different than a real self defense case.

Honestly, it sounds more reasonable than this:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.1365975

I mean, isn't prostitution illegal to begin with?

A guy pays an escort $150, and at the end of the night when she doesn't 'put out' he demands his money back... and the jury sides with him firing his AK47 to do it?

A Bexar County Texas court jury on Thursday took 11 hours to acquit Gilbert — saying his actions were justified because he was simply trying to retrieve stolen property.

This is because state residents are permitted "to use deadly force to recover property during a nighttime theft."

In the current case, the man says he only fired his gun once he thought they were trying to run him over.

Paranoia or no, if he thought they were robbers (I guess that's what the commentator on that website meant about race?) brandishing a gun doesn't seem that bad if you can use 'deadly force' to retrieve $150.

Firing at a car after you felt threatened for your life seems like a cakewalk from there.

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Whether or not he's innocent under the law is kind of beside the point. He was clearly in the wrong, and was acting like a lot of people have been with guns lately. They think they're cowboy vigilantes.

I thought that was the whole point of the 2nd Amendment's "militia" bit.

Oppose corrupt governments, protect your rights and neighbours etc.

[Jotaux]

Honestly, it sounds more reasonable than this:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crim...icle-1.1365975

I mean, isn't prostitution illegal to begin with?

A guy pays an escort $150, and at the end of the night when she doesn't 'put out' he demands his money back... and the jury sides with him firing his AK47 to do it?

Well in that case she had his $150 didn't she? In this case the victims and this nutjob had no prior contact, they had nothing that belonged to him and were literally strangers sitting in a car on the street. Both are ridiculous circumstances to me but I think if these kids were injured or killed this would have been worse.

[Xeones]

Firing at a car after you felt threatened for your life seems like a cakewalk from there.

Well, maybe except all the bullet holes are in the rear of the vehicle.

[SidFwuff]

Well in that case she had his $150 didn't she? In this case the victims and this nutjob had no prior contact, they had nothing that belonged to him and were literally strangers sitting in a car on the street. Both are ridiculous circumstances to me but I think if these kids were injured or killed this would have been worse.

In this case the shooter says he was in fear of his life.

Well, maybe except all the bullet holes are in the rear of the vehicle.

Can you prove he wasn't afraid? That he knew they wouldn't turn around?

If a man in another state can kill a woman because he thought a night being escorted included sex, I'm sure a jury could have some doubts about him intending to murder a couple teens.

Especially when no one was hurt this time.

I'm not an American though.

[GennGreymane]

In this case the shooter says he was in fear of his life.



Can you prove he wasn't afraid? That he knew they wouldn't turn around?

If a man in another state can kill a woman because he thought a night being escorted included sex, I'm sure a jury could have some doubts about him intending to murder a couple teens.

Especially when no one was hurt this time.

I'm not an American though.

I was afraid of the bank, thats why I robbed it. The hostages scared me, thats why I killed them.

Just saying I was scared after the fact is meaningless. The rational person standard is what will need to be used if this has criminal charges.

[Xeones]

In this case the shooter says he was in fear of his life.



Can you prove he wasn't afraid? That he knew they wouldn't turn around?

If a man in another state can kill a woman because he thought a night being escorted included sex, I'm sure a jury could have some doubts about him intending to murder a couple teens.

Especially when no one was hurt this time.

I'm not an American though.

I can't think of any instances of someone getting off after shooting a fleeing person in the back. Even with Floridas fucked up laws.


http://q13fox.com/2016/03/28/i-was-r...be-shoplifter/

Like I said earlier in this thread, the dude would have a better chance of escaping punishment if he just straight up murdered them, because then there would only be one side to the story.

[Witchblade77]

uh... I'm pretty sure florida man should be prosecuted for negligent discharge. guidlines for using firearms already exist. and I'm pretty darn sure he violated them. you are not allowed to just shoot a suspected burglar or anything. you can shoot when you are reasonably sure that your or someone else's LIFE is in peril and you NEED to make sure that the person you are shooting is visible to you and make sure you know exactly what is behind them, to not cause collateral damage/victims. if he was so worried about them being burglars, what he SHOULD have done was write down their license plate number and call the police.

that said, while those guildlines for pokemon go should honestly just be common sense (people are getting hurt because they are not watching when crossing the street, walking into oncoming trafic, etc - this is just ridiculous) I don't see anything wrong with them on principle.

[Lockndrop]

Is Mad Max based on Florida?

nah but it should. it's a place where people go to die and cubans come to be saved

[ShadowofVashj]

its called natural selection

clearly those 2 are to retarded to pass their gene pool further so they will eliminate themselves and it will be better for humankind overall

other thing didnt they parents have enough time to teach those 2 idiots that trespassing is illegal and can get them shot ? this situation pefrekly shows downfall of western culture

Trespassing on a public street huh?

That makes pefrekly good sense.

[Orby]

I hate Pokemon as much as the next guy but thats going too far :P

[SidFwuff]

I can't think of any instances of someone getting off after shooting a fleeing person in the back. Even with Floridas fucked up laws.


http://q13fox.com/2016/03/28/i-was-r...be-shoplifter/

Difference there is that someone died.

In this case, he's facing one charge of "discharging a firearm in public".

That's a misdemeanor. He may get a fine and/or probation.

That is if the discharge wasn't accidental or he thought he was protecting his property

[Xeones]

Difference there is that someone died.

In this case, he's facing one charge of "discharging a firearm in public".

That's a misdemeanor. He may get a fine and/or probation.

That is if the discharge wasn't accidental or he thought he was protecting his property

You're ignoring the whole "They weren't a threat and he shot the rear of the vehicle" thing.

[Deleted]

You're ignoring the whole "They weren't a threat and he shot the rear of the vehicle" thing.

Surely attempted murder is a thing?

[SidFwuff]

You're ignoring the whole "They weren't a threat and he shot the rear of the vehicle" thing.

I'm a bit confused. Earlier you were suggesting that, even with Florida's "fucked up laws" he would be facing serious charges.

He's being charged with a single misdemeanor- that is "discharging a firearm in a public place" which carries a monetary fine in Florida unless he argues it was accidental.