Originally Posted by
Beardyface
I agree with the raid talent choices, but not 100% sure I agree with the dungeon talent choices from a defensive standpoint. For pre-patch dungeons you'll likely do quite a lot more AoE damage on trash packs with RF, ItF and Ravager, sure, but opting out of Veng and HR for Legion dungeons is a big hit to your survivability. With crit our worst stat and the nerf to Riposte, we're going to have so little parry that an extra 30% isn't going to do a whole lot aside from decrease our rage gen and our overall chance to block, thereby reducing Scales of Earth procs and Dragon Scale procs.
I'm really starting to think that ItF's extra Haste isn't going to make up for cutting your IP cost in half via Veng. If you can always pool at least 31 rage before you use IP and V:FR is up, hitting FR first then taking your half rage cost IP is nearly always going to be possible, and will be a bigger rage savings the more rage you pool, up to 45. And this is all without Ultimatum.