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"This will be a fight against overwhelming odds from which survival cannot be expected. We will do what damage we can."
-- Capt. Copeland
I don't vote based of charisma, and I hope others also don't(well... they do, so tough luck for me).
The era of the Willem van Orangjes and Ruyters is long over.
The thing to remember is as awesome as those sort of people are, they are rare, and we shouldn't have a government structured around dependence on any one man being perfectly ethical. Because once a horrible one gets in there, they could bring down the entire country.
Money in the west gets you to much political power. Lead to a lot of rich people without much direction calling the shots beyond their own personal economic goals
That's the problem: leaders do not like to go away, either from selfish desires, or because they are afraid their successor will turn away from their ideas (as has happened many times throughout the history). I think the current system is the best, when leaders do not, well, lead, but independent leaders inspire people by their speeches and actions. People like Nick Vujicic, Stephen Hawking, Bethany Hamilton - what is a better inspiration than someone who had the nature take away from them something that everyone else has by default, and still incredibly succeeded at life? Much more inspiring than, say, Alexander the Great, who was just a great warlord and manager, but didn't have to overcome unimaginable difficulties life brought into his life.
Why would I want to follow a leader? I'm for democracy!
You might want to check the particulars of what Alexander the Great had to overcome before he was given that sobriquet and yet for as great as he was, what claimed him in the end? Fever, or if darker stories are true poison. All great leaders are eventually laid low.
Leaders in most times don't like to go away but we also haven't had a specific type of leadership culture that has emphasized and exalted that particular trait and decision either, instead we see thousands of years of Dynasty fueled tales and propaganda that more or less mentors leader types to yearn for and aspire to immortal permanence and to cultify themselves whenever and however imaginable. Get all that crap out of the mix in cultural entertainment and in schooling and highlight the need to, as it says in the Tao:
Stepping away is the only way for leaders who've once they've finished the job can actually ensure that their efforts come to some sort of fruition. That others could undo what they did is only relevant to those concerned with Dynasty, and a properly trained and enlightened section of society focused on doing the job and then stepping out of the way of society wouldn't care for such at all.Whoever relies on the Tao in governing men
doesn't try to force issues
or defeat enemies by force of arms.
For every force there is a counterforce.
Violence, even well intentioned,
always rebounds upon oneself.
The Master does his job
and then stops.
He understands that the universe
is forever out of control,
and that trying to dominate events
goes against the current of the Tao.
Because he believes in himself,
he doesn't try to convince others.
Because he is content with himself,
he doesn't need others' approval.
Because he accepts himself,
the whole world accepts him.
The Fresh Prince of Baudelaire
Banned at least 10 times. Don't give a fuck, going to keep saying what I want how I want to.
Eat meat. Drink water. Do cardio and burpees. The good life.
Of course there aren't! I'm in Australia and we've had **** leaders ever since the country was founded. On top of that, they still take their pledge to that old bag in England and add "so help me God". **** off with that **** already!! Also they're almost all homophobes and anti-evolution and anti-progress. Too weak-willed and weak in general!
And that's just one country in the world!
I'd rather follow Daenerys Targaryen than ANYONE from our non-fictional history!
You'll have to clarify when you make off topic ramblings. I don't know what your talking about now. I'm talking about the fact that Athiests are allowed to make "Christianity. A fairy tale" signs in public areas, yet doing the same on Muslims would be disallowed on grounds of being "incendiary". I suppose calling all things incendiary irrespective of race, religion or creed.. namely actual equality appears to be something lost on you.
But then again this is hardly surprising since you immediately fell back on "colored" folks as a topic change.
Why are you so racist? Stop being a racist. No one is asking for any of what you asked, and you know it full well. Can't you make a fair argument without trying to shift a legitimate point to the defensive? Actually I take that back. I suppose that was too much to ask from someone still stuck in 1960s terminology and mindset. Your broad painting of all Christians as X makes you as bad as those who claim all Muslims are suicide bombers.
Need to get with the times man and if you can't, get out of the way of those who are.
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Sorry, but Putin isn't the kind of leader this thread wants.
He is also all about reactive rather then proactive actions, lacks clear vision and direction of where he wants to get the country (other then vague "part of world system"), and does a lot of half-measures that appease noone fully.
So you'd rather follow someone whose only capital is not being burned by fire and who proved completely inept at reconciling warring factions in the city under her rule. Awesome choice.
The Western world doesn't need leaders. It needs trust in the systems designed to work without leaders. It therefore needs narrators that can produce this trust; leading politicians are not good candidates for that role because it immediately makes them populist.
3 out of your 4 points seem to have to do with Sex. I hardly see the connection between geopolitics, economics and sex.
The idea that in the past somehow we were more "moral" is hilarious.
1, Slavery. Human trafficking. Literally. Most slaveholders were known to rape their slaves.
2, Syphilis was the plague of the 17th to 19th century.
3, Most political leaders of times of yore were known to have concubines or outright be gay (it's okay to be gay if you are the King.)
Name a Western historical leader and I'll point out how their character was beyond dubious in one or another way.
If anything generations past were more immoral, not just because of the shitty shady shit they would engage in, but also because they used to be extremely hypocritical about it.
Your "moral" past, is literally a figment of your imagination.
If you are talented, smart, capable, and effective, why would you run for office? The pay is low and you face endless media scrutiny. You have to be insane to do it. That leaves you with a pool of candidates that range from insane to stupid. Anyone smart and skilled is going to realize they can be much happier running their own business where they have 100% control.
TO FIX WOW:1. smaller server sizes & server-only LFG awarding satchels, so elite players help others. 2. "helper builds" with loom powers - talent trees so elite players cast buffs on low level players XP gain, HP/mana, regen, damage, etc. 3. "helper ilvl" scoring how much you help others. 4. observer games like in SC to watch/chat (like twitch but with MORE DETAILS & inside the wow UI) 5. guild leagues to compete with rival guilds for progression (with observer mode).6. jackpot world mobs.
Im extremely baffled by that statement, Geert Wilders should be kicked/banished/stateless, that guy is just... ugh
Dangerous, Unstable , abit like Boris Johnson in that regard that if he gets the power he cant do anything at all, if he wants do something he needs the ''Eerste Kamer'' behind him, but seeing thats never the case, he needs to abolish it, which is a rather undemocratic action to take, possibly angering the EU and NATO.
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