Freedom from religion?

[Flatspriest]

From my understanding, Antarctica is a religion free zone.

[TheMediator]

Communist China welcomes you with open arms.

Communist China? Capitalist China.

[ranzino]

French Laizism is great.

[Powerogue]

Freedom of/from religion is a classic constitutional debate. It doesn't need to discuss dogma at all, which is what they generally ban on these forums. This is not a topic on religion but on freedom.

Banning religious symbols and apparel from public spaces, like for instance public schools, should be the goal of any non-confessional state. But that can't, or should not, extend to the private exercise of religion if we're to defend individual liberties.

Then we deal with the more blurry incidents on a case by case basis, like the church group trying to proselytize to school kids while they were outside of school grounds having their lunch break. Technically doing no wrong, but ethically trying to weasel around the first amendment.

[Independent voter]

Communist China? Capitalist China.

Soviet Union banned religion, Cuba did.

[nextormento]

Then we deal with the more blurry incidents on a case by case basis, like the church group trying to proselytize to school kids while they were outside of school grounds having their lunch break. Technically doing no wrong, but ethically trying to weasel around the first amendment.

I'm personally more interested in the technicalities, because the constitution in our country professes a compromise version of laicite. Which is something that rubs me the wrong way.
But yeah, people will find and exploit every possibility to have their views exhorted into others. If the lunch folks are too much of a burden, I'm sure some other group will retaliate in similar fashion.

[Self Inflicted Wounds]

Are there any countries in the world where religion is banned? All the time you hear about people demanding the right to have there faith but what about peoples right to not have to have religion in there lives? For example church bells and mosque screaming/prayers. Would this be a good idea and do places like these exist/will they exist in the future?

That really isn't freedom from religion. Its just banning others being allowed to practice religion. You are already free to not practice a religion.

[Florena]

Freedom of religion and from religion go hand in hand. If religion is banned there's no freedom in that.

[Lupinemancer]

On a personal level, I think the world would be a better place without religion as all it does is cause wars and chaos. But that's just my opinion.

[Orbitus]

Ban on all religions sounds pretty much like religion in itself.

But it would be an amazing utopia.

[Bollocks]

Soviet Union banned religion, Cuba did.

And Soviet Union later embraced it, IIRC and Cuba failed at banning religion and took more lax positions on it.

[Florena]

On a personal level, I think the world would be a better place without religion as all it does is cause wars and chaos. But that's just my opinion.

I agree to an extent but we'll still have plenty of war and chaos because of other reasons. And some good does come out of religion.

[prwraith]

Everything fun to discuss is banned.

This is soo true

[Theodarzna]

From my understanding, Antarctica is a religion free zone.

Nah, the Great Old Ones have a thriving Esoteric Order of Dagon branch somewhere there. Plus there is those weird Shoggaths that go door to door wishing to screech "TEKELELEEE!" or as they mean to say "the good news."

[Underverse]

I can't really think of any circumstances where religion interfered with my daily life, or was an overt annoyance. Occasionally I will see advertisements. But I live in a fairly well educated, non-religious area.

However if I had to deal with calls to prayer every day, I would be fucking pissed.

[Zarc]

what about peoples right to not have to have religion in there lives?

Too bad you aren't looking for the right to not to have homosexuality in your* life, many more countries to choose from in that department.

*Your definition of "your life" seems a bit too wide imo, but I think it's the same that Putin uses when he thought up the anti-"gay propaganda" laws.

[S7orm]

Can you name us a war that is solely started because of religion?

PS. You didn't gave an opinion, you made an allegation.

Is this the old "religion caused no war" argument where someone says crusades and you say they started because European leaders wanted an excuse to invade?

If the peasants were motivated to gear up and invade a country because of religious reasons they believed were true, wasn't it a religious war for the population, and an invasion war for the rulers?

After all, aren't all religions about gullible people tricked by an intelligent being into doing stupid things for a chance of receiving impossible rewards?

[ravenmoon]

Are there any countries in the world where religion is banned? All the time you hear about people demanding the right to have there faith but what about peoples right to not have to have religion in there lives? For example church bells and mosque screaming/prayers. Would this be a good idea and do places like these exist/will they exist in the future?

That's not how freedom works young man

You know this is twisted right. The reason you have a right not to believe in any religion is because of freedom of religion. No religion is also a belief system, so you would ban others from believing what you don't believe?

that's not freedom.

Everyone has a right to believe what they want to believe, and you can never force them to stop doing so, or living their life according to what they believe... because that's how life works, everyone believes something, and what they believe dominates their actions and their lives, things they say, how they react or behave .... not every belief system is good, and not every one is right. Countries make laws governed by their common beliefs.

In our society in England, we have certain things we do not allow, you are free to believe what you want, but committing certain actions is unacceptable and we will arrest that delinquent development, even if it is something you believe in. I'm not saying the law is always right, but we can only make decisions on the things people do, and we try to allow as much freedom as possible, only locking up people who do things that harm others at a certain threshold

[W1sp]

Religion is the number one cause of death with more kills then communism and nazism combined I just feel that there should be a place where people who dislike the whole religion thing could live and people could kill each other on the other side of the pond. Imagine a place where gays can live freely without reprucussion. Where you can have your holiday any time of year and where people can pursue science and art without having to debate against creationists/people who think drawing a muhamed caricature should lead to your death

[noobadrood]

Religion is the number one cause of death with more kills then communism and nazism combined I just feel that there should be a place where people who dislike the whole religion thing could live and people could kill each other on the other side of the pond. Imagine a place where gays can live freely without reprucussion. Where you can have your holiday any time of year and where people can pursue science and art without having to debate against creationists/people who think drawing a muhamed caricature should lead to your death

Your idea of freedom through segregation sounds awfully familiar, for some reason...