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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Every American needs to have multiple guns for self defence and multiple guns to hunt?

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    For what purpose?
    They are tools. Tools have different functions and uses. They are not one size fits all
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dystemper View Post
    They are tools. Tools have different functions and uses. They are not one size fits all
    And thats means everybody should havee 8 guns?

    No wonder the gun-nut american stereotype exists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    And thats means everybody should havee 8 guns?

    No wonder the gun-nut american stereotype exists.
    Many collect firearms. I have different guns in different calibers for different uses. Not a hard concept to grasp.

    Why do you have more then one knife? Or Fork? Or pen? Or paint brushes?
    Why do people have more then one type of screwdriver, hammer, wrench, sockets etc etc etc.
    The "gun nut American stereo type" exists because of the ignorant antigun types who blame a object for the actions of other people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bathory View Post
    5 minutes of googling show that group isn't tied to BLM. I'm not condoning what's being done/said against police, but I'm also not going to feed into the circle jerk of misinformation and slander someone unnecessarily.


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    I wonder what would happen if one was to ask each and every single of those individuals if they are or not BLM Supporters. I think people know the answer, but I'm sure you and some others, in this thread, would claim otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dystemper View Post
    Many collect firearms. I have different guns in different calibers for different uses. Not a hard concept to grasp.

    Why do you have more then one knife? Or Fork? Or pen? Or paint brushes?
    Why do people have more then one type of screwdriver, hammer, wrench, sockets etc etc etc.
    The "gun nut American stereo type" exists because of the ignorant antigun types who blame a object for the actions of other people.
    So... why does everybody need to collect guns?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    So... why does everybody need to collect guns?
    BEcause we have the constitutional right to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dystemper View Post
    BEcause we have the constitutional right to.
    A right and a need are not the same thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkeon View Post
    I wonder what would happen if one was to ask each and every single of those individuals if they are or not BLM Supporters. I think people know the answer, but I'm sure you and some others, in this thread, would claim otherwise.
    supporting something makes you a part of something

    i support the president

    that means i am the president!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    A right and a need are not the same thing.
    It is constitutional right. Thats all you Need
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dystemper View Post
    It is constitutional right. Thats all you Need
    I don't think you understand that having a right does not mean everybody needs to own a shitton of guns.
    How are guns a need and not a want?


    You 'murican gun-nuts never change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apples View Post
    supporting something makes you a part of something

    i support the president

    that means i am the president!
    Its not like BLM has any entry requirements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darkeon View Post
    I wonder what would happen if one was to ask each and every single of those individuals if they are or not BLM Supporters. I think people know the answer, but I'm sure you and some others, in this thread, would claim otherwise.
    I would not claim otherwise, but the point remains, everyone may support something, but that doesn't mean the organization itself wants their support. Look at the KKK supporting Trump and the GOP for example.

    One cannot dictate who supports who, that's out of your hands as a large entity. Condemnation is really the only means available to them (as BLM has done plenty of times when others call for violence in their name)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    I don't think you understand that having a right does not mean everybody needs to own a shitton of guns..


    You 'murican gun-nuts never change.

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    Its not like BLM has any entry requirements.
    I dont think you understand Constitutional rights. You Pean whackos never change
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    For what purpose?
    Well you see there are many different types of guns.

    1. Screaming at people to get off your lawn shotgun.
    2. Open carry AR-15 to show off how tiny your penis is gun.
    3. Wave at pokemon go players because you're irrationally hateful that they're having fun handgun.
    4. Hunting ducks gun
    5. Hunting deer gun
    6. Hunting liberals gun
    7. Hunting other hunters gun
    8. Gun that sits on your coffee table disassembled gun
    9. Gun under your pillow
    10. Gun for opposing the impending Obama Nazi Muslim Communist Hillary Benghazi Email Socialist tyrannical government gun
    11. Gun for shooting in the air in celebrating of glorious leader Trump's hypothetical election
    12. Gun for getting mad when Trump inevitably renegs on every promise and turns the country into a dystopia
    13. Gun for telling other people that if they had a gun there would be no crime ever

    And a whole lot more I can't think of at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dystemper View Post
    I dont think you understand Constitutional rights. You Pean whackos never change
    Okay, nevermind, I'm clearly not getting through to you.
    Feel free to continue on thinking everybody needs to own atleast 8 guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Okay, nevermind, I'm clearly not getting through to you.
    Feel free to continue on thinking everybody needs to own atleast 8 guns.
    I dont think you understand the concept of " We dont NEED to, But we can because it is our right".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalis View Post
    We do not have mass shootings all the time, so violence for us usually involves stabbing. Why put stabbed in quotation marks?



    You are readily willing to believe the reports of people trying to blame the police for it, but completely disbelieve the reports claiming otherwise.

    That area is one of the most heavily policed in the country, there are many government buildings and other high profile sites such as the US Embassy within a few hundred metres.

    And there are no police forces with water cannons in the Britain, they are banned, Boris even bought some and got publicly humiliated by then Home Secretary Theresa May for wasting money.


    Edit: Britain not UK, they use them in Ulster, which came up when Boris bought his.
    Neither does the US. They have magically severely increased in the last 8 years though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dystemper View Post
    I dont think you understand the concept of " We dont NEED to, But we can because it is our right".
    And the original remark was that nobody needs that many, which is true, since people go their entire lives without a gun. Most of the world's population accomplishes this. Yes, you can own one. Doesn't mean you need one. So what exactly is your dissenting issue?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    Okay, nevermind, I'm clearly not getting through to you.
    Feel free to continue on thinking everybody needs to own atleast 8 guns.
    I think he means just 1 gun. If you own 8+ guns it is probably because you are a gun collector even if you are only a amateur. Moist others that own guns only own 1 for self-defense because typically the police are called after a crime has happened and in home invasion situations minutes can feel more like hours but if you have a gun you can protect yourself and your family until the police do arrive. They call the gun the "great equalizer" for a reason so if a womans house gets invaded by an intruder or intruders she having a gun while give her an equal chance for survival because it doesn't matter how big and strong you are...a bullet will still kill your ass. I love it when Europeans and other make fun of the US for guns but we can say that we have never started any world wars and our government couldn't just turn on us with troops and tanks because we are well armed too. Guns save more lives then they take every year- it just isn't news worthy you actually have to go and look.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Batman View Post
    And the original remark was that nobody needs that many, which is true, since people go their entire lives without a gun. Most of the world's population accomplishes this. Yes, you can own one. Doesn't mean you need one. So what exactly is your dissenting issue?
    You may NEED one if you live in a not so safe neighborhood. You may need one because you never know if your house could be subject to a home invasion and it is better to be armed and able to defend yourself then not be armed and get murdered and robbed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apples View Post
    supporting something makes you a part of something

    i support the president

    that means i am the president!
    If that's the best you got, I am disappoint, son.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bathory View Post
    I would not claim otherwise, but the point remains, everyone may support something, but that doesn't mean the organization itself wants their support. Look at the KKK supporting Trump and the GOP for example.

    One cannot dictate who supports who, that's out of your hands as a large entity. Condemnation is really the only means available to them (as BLM has done plenty of times when others call for violence in their name)
    Completely agree with you that one cannot control what other people support and that it doesn't mean that BLM, as an organization, endorses these people.

    However, BLM has no document one must fill in and sign and wait until they get accepted into it or not. And if these people gladly pledge their support to the cause (some, sadly, via less savory means than others), it's because they were inspired by and look up to BLM ideology - and then took it a step too far; But are supporters nonetheless.

    And I do not think that simply dismissing it as "Not real BLM supporters" isn't doing the trick anymore. As to what is the real solution? I do not know.

    All in all though, they are BLM supporters; Endorsed by the organization, or not.
    Last edited by Darkeon; 2016-07-20 at 11:45 PM. Reason: Added a reply

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Batman View Post
    Well you see there are many different types of guns.

    1. Screaming at people to get off your lawn shotgun.
    2. Open carry AR-15 to show off how tiny your penis is gun.
    3. Wave at pokemon go players because you're irrationally hateful that they're having fun handgun.
    4. Hunting ducks gun
    5. Hunting deer gun
    6. Hunting liberals gun
    7. Hunting other hunters gun
    8. Gun that sits on your coffee table disassembled gun
    9. Gun under your pillow
    10. Gun for opposing the impending Obama Nazi Muslim Communist Hillary Benghazi Email Socialist tyrannical government gun
    11. Gun for shooting in the air in celebrating of glorious leader Trump's hypothetical election
    12. Gun for getting mad when Trump inevitably renegs on every promise and turns the country into a dystopia
    13. Gun for telling other people that if they had a gun there would be no crime ever

    And a whole lot more I can't think of at the moment.
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