If an unarmed man on the ground with his hands clearly visible and showing zero sign of aggression can get shot, imagine what would happen to the autistic man if the "police were allowed to do their jobs without interference." Considering how strict police instructions are, a severely disabled person has a high likelihood of getting manhandled or killed because it's almost guaranteed he will not comply with their orders and that he will resist arrest.
Police should not be trained to treat civilians as hostile combatants, and yet that's exactly how they're trained in the US. They should be using mace and stun guns, not fucking bullets, to deal with civilians. A stun gun is as likely to stop a suspect from potentially harming the officer as a bullet is, without the added benefit of killing the suspect.
I am not an anti-police advocate. But I am absolutely fucking anti-guns-at-the-ready. Citizens should respect police, but they shouldn't literally fear them.
Sounds like untrained officers escalating the situation like so many do these days. Ridiculous.
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This isn't actually real is it? This sounds like the onion. Cops come on the scene and see a retard with a toy truck and a black man laying on the ground with his arms in the air and decide the best course of action to deal with this situation is to shoot and then cuff the black guy? I don't know what world I'm living in.
While that may be the case, there is absolutely 100% no justification for shooting him. He was lying on the ground with his hands up trying to calm down an autistic man he works with. There was no threat at all to any cops.
This is an actual instance where cops screwed up and someone got shot. It doesn't have anything to do with the color of his skin, but it's unfortunate he is black because it's just going to fuel the narrative that "cops shoot blacks" even more. In this instance the cops were in the wrong and should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law for illegal discharge of a weapon and, in the least, assault with a deadly weapon. This cop had no reason to do what he did, and should never be allowed to handle a firearm again for the rest of his life.
The guy did what he did because he knows that if he didn't, that autistic man could have ended up dead at the hands of the cops, all because he was mentally ill and had no idea what he was doing or how to comply.
Where did you go to get your police training to know that's the method they are taught? I'm actually curious because it sounds like more rhetoric, not actual facts here.
Mace, stun guns, and the like are fine when the populous at large aren't armed, but considering there are 300 million guns in America, not to mention the countless thousands to millions that are unregistered, it's safe to assume that the majority of the population owns a gun. I'm not saying that guns should be the go to first action, but considering the high anti-cop behavior that's going on in this country, it's understandable that that's the case right now. These cops are just doing their jobs and want to go home at the end of their shift to their families and friends. Unless we get illegal guns on the street first all while focusing on gun reform laws, things aren't going to change, especially when the news media uses gun stories left and right as easy ratings gains.
Now I'm not saying get rid of all guns, but reform needs to happen. We don't need "assault style weapons" and we definitely don't need hand guns. Getting them out of the hands of criminals needs to be step 1 though.
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If the officer himself admits that he has no idea why he shot the guy, then there's absolutely nothing to debate here.
That's pretty messed up. Seems like incompetence on the cops part.
To stop the race baiting though: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...emphis-airport
This kind of mishandling of situations happens with white people too. Don't assume its racism just because a black person is involved.
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Would a pair of binoculars not suffice to quickly confirm this though? Not to mention the verbal confirmation of one of the involved individuals.
The stage where they "be sure otherwise" should have ended pretty quickly, and they definitely should not have started shooting prior to it.
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PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska."
SNL: Can't be Diomede Islands, say her backyard instead.
What if a murderer told you he was innocent, he just is because he says so?
What if he was playing with a toy truck and had a 9mm tucked in his waitband. or the black guy did and it was just a ploy to get more officers in one spot to shoot them all? These are the things most likely running through the cops heads at this point.
That retard would be fucking dead if the guy hadn't intervened. If they're willing to shoot an unarmed man lying prone with his hands in the air, they're more than willing to shoot someone with limited cognition acting erratically with something that might be mistaken as a gun in his hand. Guy = hero, cop = thug, plain simple and clear cut. Fire his ass, throw him in jail for 10+ years, and be done with it.
Right. Cops are programmed to operate by the book, and this situation was so not-by-the-book he reverted to his factory-default setting, which is to shoot the black guy.
Clearly you are. The cops aren't in the cell phone footage at the beginning yet you can't really tell what the boy is holding.
It's safer to act on the assumption based upon the 911 call the boy is armed until you have actual visual confirmation otherwise.
All you armchair cops really need to go through some of the simulations being offered to clueless people like yourselves.
How to tell if somebody learned World Geography in school or from SNL:
"GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska."
SNL: Can't be Diomede Islands, say her backyard instead.