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  1. #41
    Quote Originally Posted by Canpinter View Post
    did you not read the first 5 words or something?
    No, I did. But then you went on to say stupid shit. That's like saying "I'm not a racist, but I hate (insert race here) people."

  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by Torgent View Post
    No, I did. But then you went on to say stupid shit. That's like saying "I'm not a racist, but I hate (insert race here) people."
    the cops should certainly be fired and almost definitely face jail time. that being said one of the REASONS this happened is not just "gur cops are evil" its the fact that we live in a society where handgun crime and ownership is so rampant cops have to be on edge.

  3. #43
    If an unarmed man on the ground with his hands clearly visible and showing zero sign of aggression can get shot, imagine what would happen to the autistic man if the "police were allowed to do their jobs without interference." Considering how strict police instructions are, a severely disabled person has a high likelihood of getting manhandled or killed because it's almost guaranteed he will not comply with their orders and that he will resist arrest.

    Police should not be trained to treat civilians as hostile combatants, and yet that's exactly how they're trained in the US. They should be using mace and stun guns, not fucking bullets, to deal with civilians. A stun gun is as likely to stop a suspect from potentially harming the officer as a bullet is, without the added benefit of killing the suspect.

    I am not an anti-police advocate. But I am absolutely fucking anti-guns-at-the-ready. Citizens should respect police, but they shouldn't literally fear them.

  4. #44
    Sounds like untrained officers escalating the situation like so many do these days. Ridiculous.
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  5. #45
    Quote Originally Posted by Torgent View Post
    Well you see, and this is assuming the officers are indeed human, we have this ability to communicate with words to figure out what's going on in a situation.
    They would have to believe someone they don't know on a man with a gun call, not happening. It's easy to pick apart after the fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Torgent View Post
    Well I wouldn't be, seeing as he was the only one there licensed to deal with the individual.
    I guess they should believe everyone that says they are innocent as well?

  6. #46
    This isn't actually real is it? This sounds like the onion. Cops come on the scene and see a retard with a toy truck and a black man laying on the ground with his arms in the air and decide the best course of action to deal with this situation is to shoot and then cuff the black guy? I don't know what world I'm living in.

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    He decided to interfere in an active 911 call after being told several times not to, of course you don't see that part of the video.
    While that may be the case, there is absolutely 100% no justification for shooting him. He was lying on the ground with his hands up trying to calm down an autistic man he works with. There was no threat at all to any cops.

    This is an actual instance where cops screwed up and someone got shot. It doesn't have anything to do with the color of his skin, but it's unfortunate he is black because it's just going to fuel the narrative that "cops shoot blacks" even more. In this instance the cops were in the wrong and should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law for illegal discharge of a weapon and, in the least, assault with a deadly weapon. This cop had no reason to do what he did, and should never be allowed to handle a firearm again for the rest of his life.

    The guy did what he did because he knows that if he didn't, that autistic man could have ended up dead at the hands of the cops, all because he was mentally ill and had no idea what he was doing or how to comply.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dendrek View Post

    Police should not be trained to treat civilians as hostile combatants, and yet that's exactly how they're trained in the US. They should be using mace and stun guns, not fucking bullets, to deal with civilians. A stun gun is as likely to stop a suspect from potentially harming the officer as a bullet is, without the added benefit of killing the suspect.
    Where did you go to get your police training to know that's the method they are taught? I'm actually curious because it sounds like more rhetoric, not actual facts here.

    Mace, stun guns, and the like are fine when the populous at large aren't armed, but considering there are 300 million guns in America, not to mention the countless thousands to millions that are unregistered, it's safe to assume that the majority of the population owns a gun. I'm not saying that guns should be the go to first action, but considering the high anti-cop behavior that's going on in this country, it's understandable that that's the case right now. These cops are just doing their jobs and want to go home at the end of their shift to their families and friends. Unless we get illegal guns on the street first all while focusing on gun reform laws, things aren't going to change, especially when the news media uses gun stories left and right as easy ratings gains.

    Now I'm not saying get rid of all guns, but reform needs to happen. We don't need "assault style weapons" and we definitely don't need hand guns. Getting them out of the hands of criminals needs to be step 1 though.
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  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by Packers01 View Post
    Are they also blind?
    You treat every call about a man with a gun the same, he has a gun until you know he doesn't. At that point he wasn't searched so your question is worthless.

  9. #49
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    If the officer himself admits that he has no idea why he shot the guy, then there's absolutely nothing to debate here.

  10. #50
    That's pretty messed up. Seems like incompetence on the cops part.

    To stop the race baiting though: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...emphis-airport
    This kind of mishandling of situations happens with white people too. Don't assume its racism just because a black person is involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canpinter View Post
    the police fucked up royally here but how are they supposed to know they guy understood the situation and they didn't, they get a call about a suicidal man with a gun, given the sheer amount of guns in the country they have to assume anything a guy is holding in that situation is a gun until they can be sure otherwise.
    Would a pair of binoculars not suffice to quickly confirm this though? Not to mention the verbal confirmation of one of the involved individuals.
    The stage where they "be sure otherwise" should have ended pretty quickly, and they definitely should not have started shooting prior to it.

  11. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Creamy Flames View Post
    And this motivates shooting him? Fuck right off dude. Fuck right off. He wanted to help his patient so that the cops didnt manhandle him, which usually doesnt go down well with Autistic people.

    Because it clearly went down well with him interfering, right?

    People like you are why we have these issues.
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  12. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Packers01 View Post
    its amazing the low standard you expect from the police.
    It's how they are trained to handle the situation.

  13. #53
    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    A 911 call of a man with a gun is not a job for a therapist.
    And where exactly was the gun?? And how is a guy laying on the ground a threat. It is pretty obvious that the police had no idea how to properly deal with the situation. In no way should this have resulted in shots being fired

  14. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Arewn View Post
    Would a pair of binoculars not suffice to quickly confirm this though? Not to mention the verbal confirmation of one of the involved individuals.
    The stage where they "be sure otherwise" should have ended pretty quickly, and they definitely should not have started shooting prior to it.
    What if a murderer told you he was innocent, he just is because he says so?
    What if he was playing with a toy truck and had a 9mm tucked in his waitband. or the black guy did and it was just a ploy to get more officers in one spot to shoot them all? These are the things most likely running through the cops heads at this point.

  15. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by alexkeren View Post
    Because it clearly went down well with him interfering, right?

    People like you are why we have these issues.
    That retard would be fucking dead if the guy hadn't intervened. If they're willing to shoot an unarmed man lying prone with his hands in the air, they're more than willing to shoot someone with limited cognition acting erratically with something that might be mistaken as a gun in his hand. Guy = hero, cop = thug, plain simple and clear cut. Fire his ass, throw him in jail for 10+ years, and be done with it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Triskell View Post
    And where exactly was the gun?? And how is a guy laying on the ground a threat. It is pretty obvious that the police had no idea how to properly deal with the situation. In no way should this have resulted in shots being fired
    Right. Cops are programmed to operate by the book, and this situation was so not-by-the-book he reverted to his factory-default setting, which is to shoot the black guy.

  16. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by lockedout View Post
    Not saying he deserved to get shot but if he didn't put himself in that position it would have never happened, patient or not you don't interfere.
    There is no police shooting some chucklefuck won't defend.

  17. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by Triskell View Post
    And where exactly was the gun?? And how is a guy laying on the ground a threat. It is pretty obvious that the police had no idea how to properly deal with the situation. In no way should this have resulted in shots being fired
    Never said it did, I actually said it shouldn't have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    There is no police shooting some chucklefuck won't defend.
    What is a chucklefuck exactly?

  18. #58
    Quote Originally Posted by Packers01 View Post
    So you dont have an answer?

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    It was a toy truck. I mean are the cops fucking blind?

    Clearly you are. The cops aren't in the cell phone footage at the beginning yet you can't really tell what the boy is holding.

    It's safer to act on the assumption based upon the 911 call the boy is armed until you have actual visual confirmation otherwise.

    All you armchair cops really need to go through some of the simulations being offered to clueless people like yourselves.
    How to tell if somebody learned World Geography in school or from SNL:
    "GIBSON: What insight into Russian actions, particularly in the last couple of weeks, does the proximity of the state give you?
    PALIN: They're our next door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska."
    SNL: Can't be Diomede Islands, say her backyard instead.

  19. #59
    Quote Originally Posted by Xeones View Post
    And the boy probably would have, because they displayed staggering levels of incompetence in this situation.
    The boy would almost certainly be dead. They'd have moved towards him shouting orders to comply which he would not have understood. A quick bit of movement then bang! bang! hes dead.
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  20. #60
    Quote Originally Posted by alexkeren View Post
    Clearly you are. The cops aren't in the cell phone footage at the beginning yet you can't really tell what the boy is holding.

    It's safer to act on the assumption based upon the 911 call the boy is armed until you have actual visual confirmation otherwise.

    All you armchair cops really need to go through some of the simulations being offered to clueless people like yourselves.
    Nah bro just take some random guy laying in the streets word for it. THAT'S how you do proper police work...

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