Friendship Moose guy Silenced.

[stormgust]

And did you check to see, that he got his penalty reviewed, and undone?

And did he get reimbursed for the time he was wrongfully silenced?

[TS26]

And did you check to see, that he got his penalty reviewed, and undone?

Nope, of course not, you made a click-bait title and made yerself look like all the Rogues during early WoD.

You felt something, you spewed it out, what an outcry, and turns out, you don't even follow through with proper facts.

I rate this thread, 2/10.

What a stupid comment. Blizzard claimed the silence penalty is given out ONLY AFTER investigation. This topic proves its not.

Thats the main issues that white knights such as you fail to see.

[Eleccybubb]

And did you check to see, that he got his penalty reviewed, and undone?

Nope, of course not, you made a click-bait title and made yerself look like all the Rogues during early WoD.

You felt something, you spewed it out, what an outcry, and turns out, you don't even follow through with proper facts.

I rate this thread, 2/10.

He got it reviewed AFTER the silencing when Blizzard clearly said After investigation a punishment would be carried out.

Following the Legion pre-expansion, any player who is reported multiple times under the Spam or Abusive Chat categories will, after investigation, receive an account-wide silence penalty.

AFTER INVESTIGATION. Automated punishment after a mass report is not investigation.

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And did he get reimbursed for the time he was wrongfully silenced?

There never was a promise of such a premise, was there?

What a stupid comment. Blizzard claimed the silence penalty is given out ONLY AFTER investigation. This topic proves its not.

Thats the main issues that white knights such as you fail to see.

He was given out a temporary one, not a real one.

Since the only other way to revoke it, is to prove account compromisation, as it says in the E-mail he recieved.

He got it reviewed AFTER the silencing when Blizzard clearly said After investigation a punishment would be carried out.

Following the Legion pre-expansion, any player who is reported multiple times under the Spam or Abusive Chat categories will, after investigation, receive an account-wide silence penalty.

AFTER INVESTIGATION. Automated punishment after a mass report is not investigation.

He got temporarily silenced, not actually silenced according to the longer standardized penalty, as that requires proof of a Compromised account to have it revoked.

[Eleccybubb]

There never was a promise of such a premise, was there?



He was given out a temporary one, not a real one.

Since the only other way to revoke it, is to prove account compromisation, as it says in the E-mail he recieved.



He got temporarily silenced, not actually silenced according to the longer standardized penalty, as that requires proof of a Compromised account.

The system should not kick in automatically when you are mass reported when they clearly stated investigation will come first. You should not have to contact a fucking GM because some trolls think they are being funny by mass reporting you and they should actually make the system they implemented work as they said it would. AFTER INVESTIGATION not hurr durr mass report this guy and get him silenced for the lulz or because we don't like him.

[TS26]

There never was a promise of such a premise, was there?



He was given out a temporary one, not a real one.

Since the only other way to revoke it, is to prove account compromisation, as it says in the E-mail he recieved.



He got temporarily silenced, not actually silenced according to the longer standardized penalty, as that requires proof of a Compromised account to have it revoked.

He was given 24 hours ban, just like asmongold. These are NOT temporary bans. These are the standard duration for a silence penalty, which gets doubled if a person got reported again.

Blizzard CLEARLY said they will silence accounts after invistigation. This is clearly not the case and this happened twice, once with the moose guy and one with the asmongold, who recieved 24 hours silence.

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He got a 24 hour according to what I read and the time this was posted. So no he did not. The system should not kick in automatically when you are mass reported when they clearly stated investigation will come first. You should not have to contact a fucking GM because some trolls think they are being funny by mass reporting you and they should actually make the system they implemented work as intended.

Work in progress.

[Eleccybubb]

Work in progress.

Why should it be a work in progress? Are you literally defending them for the sake of it now? The system SHOULD NOT have an automated kick in when they stated before it was released that it would be investigation first and action taken second. It's just as shitty as the right click report system.

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He was given 24 hours ban, just like asmongold. These are NOT temporary bans. These are the standard duration for a silence penalty, which gets doubled if a person got reported again.

Blizzard CLEARLY said they will silence accounts after invistigation. This is clearly not the case and this happened twice, once with the moose guy and one with the asmongold, who recieved 24 hours silence.

Ban? No-one got banned, he got silenced. Which was then lifted.

[TS26]

Ban? No-one got banned, he got silenced. Which was then lifted.

24 hours ban from talking, inviting people to groups, using mail, etc etc

Thats not the point and you know it.

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Why should it be a work in progress? Are you literally defending them for the sake of it now? The system SHOULD NOT have an automated kick in when they stated before it was released that it would be investigation first and action taken second. It's just as shitty as the right click report system.

White knights are really weird.

[FelPlague]

Wrong.
If there was just one. ONE. GM actually looking at it properly, this wouldn't have happened.
Instead, we have GMs who don't care, or perhaps contrary to what Blizzard indicated, maybe there is NO investigation.

It would be VERY easy to have just 1 GM checking the reports, and when someone is found to be abusing that report system, that person gets BLOCKED from using the report system AND SILENCED as punishment, for an extended period of time.

If this was done, then there would be nearly no fake reports, it would make the job easy for GMs and improve the community as a whole.

the gms do check the reports... idk if you know what happens with this system...

people report
tons of reports go in
person gets temp silence to "stop them from whatever their doing"
gm when they get to it checks, sees why the person was reported
false claim=able to talk again
Spamming/cussing= 24 (x2 every offence) silence...

its basicly a man is accused of murder, he is detained till proven innocent, then when hes innocent he is let free, but if its guilty hes taken jail time

yes its a sucky system but people need to stop saying "no gms check it"

people cant report, then a gm instantly go "UH YES, UH NO NO YEAH NO" it takes time, so it silences them to put a stop to whatever they are doing and then a gm can check it when they get the chance

could they remove this "guilty till proven innocent" and make it "innocent till proven guilty" yes

but both sides have their issues

Guilty till innocent= innocent people silenced
innocent till guilty= person can keep spamming/cussing for hours till the gm gets the reports...

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He was given 24 hours ban, just like asmongold. These are NOT temporary bans. These are the standard duration for a silence penalty, which gets doubled if a person got reported again.

Blizzard CLEARLY said they will silence accounts after invistigation. This is clearly not the case and this happened twice, once with the moose guy and one with the asmongold, who recieved 24 hours silence.

asmongold received it because he abused the system, yes he was testing it, but he still told 39 other people to report him... and yes they were temp, as it was until a GM would read them, and dictate if it should be or not, moose got got it remove, no penalty, if he gets reported and it is his fault it wont be 48 hours, it will be 24, but asmon abused the system, for good or bad, and got a 24 hour silence

also the moose guy got his back very quick, did not get a penalty, or 24 hour silence, but asmon did cause he abused the system, both were silenced "so they couldent cause more trouble" till a gm checks the case, and unsilenced them, but chose to give asmon the 24 h silence cause he was abusing the system

[ItachiZaku]

Shouldn't have been spamming trade chat.

[Eleccybubb]

the gms do check the reports... idk if you know what happens with this system...

people report
tons of reports go in
person gets temp silence to "stop them from whatever their doing"
gm when they get to it checks, sees why the person was reported
false claim=able to talk again
Spamming/cussing= 24 (x2 every offence) silence...

its basicly a man is accused of murder, he is detained till proven innocent, then when hes innocent he is let free, but if its guilty hes taken jail time

yes its a sucky system but people need to stop saying "no gms check it"

people cant report, then a gm instantly go "UH YES, UH NO NO YEAH NO" it takes time, so it silences them to put a stop to whatever they are doing and then a gm can check it when they get the chance

could they remove this "guilty till proven innocent" and make it "innocent till proven guilty" yes

but both sides have their issues

Guilty till innocent= innocent people silenced
innocent till guilty= person can keep spamming/cussing for hours till the gm gets the reports...

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asmongold received it because he abused the system, yes he was testing it, but he still told 39 other people to report him... and yes they were temp, as it was until a GM would read them, and dictate if it should be or not, moose got got it remove, no penalty, if he gets reported and it is his fault it wont be 48 hours, it will be 24, but asmon abused the system, for good or bad, and got a 24 hour silence

also the moose guy got his back very quick, did not get a penalty, or 24 hour silence, but asmon did cause he abused the system, both were silenced "so they couldent cause more trouble" till a gm checks the case, and unsilenced them, but chose to give asmon the 24 h silence cause he was abusing the system

Again. It should not have an automated kick in when they clearly stated it would be reviewed first. How hard is this to understand?

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Why should it be a work in progress? Are you literally defending them for the sake of it now? The system SHOULD NOT have an automated kick in when they stated before it was released that it would be investigation first and action taken second. It's just as shitty as the right click report system.

I'm saying it's a work in progress (Not that there is a justification for it, one way or another - Simply that it is). They clearly have the system in other games already (heroes of the storm, notably).

There also exists the possibility of that said sources, are unreliable. Asmongold has had a history of being verbally abusive, as is evident by his videos, as for this Moose guy - He did get his silence lifted, but are we truly certain, outside of a tweet - that does not even cover the whole story - That it's automation?

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24 hours ban from talking, inviting people to groups, using mail, etc etc

Thats not the point and you know it..

I ask that you formulate your points more precise ; You refered to a known phenomenon known as a ban, there was no such thing involved.

It is important to actually formulate yourself in a cohesive, and understandable manner - If you wish to be taken seriously that is.

Perhaps your insults are just symptom of being unable to make a coherent, actual, precise argument?

[TS26]

the gms do check the reports... idk if you know what happens with this system...

people report
tons of reports go in
person gets temp silence to "stop them from whatever their doing"
gm when they get to it checks, sees why the person was reported
false claim=able to talk again
Spamming/cussing= 24 (x2 every offence) silence...

its basicly a man is accused of murder, he is detained till proven innocent, then when hes innocent he is let free, but if its guilty hes taken jail time

yes its a sucky system but people need to stop saying "no gms check it"

people cant report, then a gm instantly go "UH YES, UH NO NO YEAH NO" it takes time, so it silences them to put a stop to whatever they are doing and then a gm can check it when they get the chance

could they remove this "guilty till proven innocent" and make it "innocent till proven guilty" yes

but both sides have their issues

Guilty till innocent= innocent people silenced
innocent till guilty= person can keep spamming/cussing for hours till the gm gets the reports...

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asmongold received it because he abused the system, yes he was testing it, but he still told 39 other people to report him... and yes they were temp, as it was until a GM would read them, and dictate if it should be or not, moose got got it remove, no penalty, if he gets reported and it is his fault it wont be 48 hours, it will be 24, but asmon abused the system, for good or bad, and got a 24 hour silence

also the moose guy got his back very quick, did not get a penalty, or 24 hour silence, but asmon did cause he abused the system, both were silenced "so they couldent cause more trouble" till a gm checks the case, and unsilenced them, but chose to give asmon the 24 h silence cause he was abusing the system

What? Asmongold's point was to see if a silence would be given before a GM checks the account. It doesnt matter what he did or how he did it to get these reports. He wanted to see IF the system would silence him before any GM can see his reports. It turns out, the silence is automatic and blizzard lied.

Again, 24 hours ban was given only moments AFTER asmongold got reported.

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I'm saying it's a work in progress. They clearly have the system in other games already (heroes of the storm, notably).

There also exists the possibility of that said sources, are unreliable. Asmongold has had a history of being verbally abusive, as is evident by his videos, as for this Moose guy - He did get his silence lifted, but are we truly certain, outside of a tweet - that does not even cover the whole story?

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I ask that you formulate your points more precise ; You refered to a known phenomenon known as a ban, there was no such thing involved.

It is important to actually formulate yourself in a cohesive, and understandable manner - If you wish to be taken seriously that is.

Perhaps your insults are just symptom of being unable to make a coherent, actual, precise argument?

Yeah, troll. Not wasting my time anymore.

[FelPlague]

What? Asmongold's point was to see if a silence would be given before a GM checks the account. It doesnt matter what he did or how he did it to get these reports. He wanted to see IF the system would silence him before any GM can see his reports. It turns out, the silence is automatic and blizzard lied.

Again, 24 hours ban was given only moments AFTER asmongold got reported.

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Yeah, troll. Not wasting my time anymore.

except no.... no it wasent... he was temp silenced till a gm coul review it, then it was let through to the 24 hour... as he was abusing the system

"i mean he was only hacking the game to see IF blizzard would catch him, turns out they lied and it wasent automatic, and now they are banning him cause they caught him hacking!? wow what losers"

[Deleted]

Yeah, troll. Not wasting my time anymore.

Your response to being told to bring proper arguments, in the face of calling people "White knights", is calling them trolls?

Good sir, you failed the very point i asked you to reinforce.

[TS26]

except no.... no it wasent... he was temp silenced till a gm coul review it, then it was let through to the 24 hour... as he was abusing the system

"i mean he was only hacking the game to see IF blizzard would catch him, turns out they lied and it wasent automatic, and now they are banning him cause they caught him hacking!? wow what losers"

Again, the email was given out after he got reported and silenced within minutes.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sots72

Now forget all about that for a minute, alright?

Answer this:

You're saying the 24 hours silence was given to Asmongold because he abused the system and thus, the 24 hours was given by a GM after being reviewed.

Then why did the moose guy get silenced for 24 hours and THEN get his silence overtuned by blizzard? You'd think if the silence was given by a GM like what you said they wouldnt go back and overtune it, right?

So its two things: Either the silence is given out after a GM review or it is automatic. These 2 cases clearly contradict eachother.

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By silencing players before they've reviewed they're basically following the concept of guilty until proven innocent, when it should be innocent until proven guilty.

[FelPlague]

Again, the email was given out after he got reported and silenced within minutes.

http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sots72

Now forget all about that for a minute, alright?

Answer this:

You're saying the 24 hours silence was given to Asmongold because he abused the system and thus, the 24 hours was given by a GM after being reviewed.

Then why did the moose guy get silenced for 24 hours and THEN get his silence overtuned by blizzard? You'd think if the silence was given by a GM like what you said they wouldnt go back and overtune it, right?

So its two things: Either the silence is given out after a GM review or it is automatic. These 2 cases clearly contradict eachother.

the silence is given out, but then either put in or removed by a gm, depending if the receiver is guilty or not, is it so dificult to get that?