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    Angry German intel: more 'turbo-radicalized' neo-Nazis emerging

    Far-right violence in Germany is spreading beyond the neo-Nazi scene, a domestic intel agency has warned. More people are committing acts of violence without the usual "transitional phases" from far-right ideology.


    Germany's far-right is expanding and becoming more radical, according to the latest report by the Verfassungsschutz bureau in North-Rhine Westphalia. The domestic intelligence agency in Germany's most populous state has said that 66 percent of the suspects of attacks on refugee homes had been carried out by people not previously known in the far-right scene.
    The state reported 114 politically-motivated attacks against refugee homes in the first five months of this year, 22 of which were violent crimes.


    "There is a new type of perpetrator who is radicalizing more quickly, and jumping over the threshold from ideology to attack without any transitional stages," the state's Interior Minister Ralf Jäger said as he presented the Verfassungsschutz report.
    "It is particularly difficult to recognize this turbo-radicalization," Jäger said, before adding that the only way to counter it was through better societal awareness. Everyone has a duty to "stand up for our freedom and democracy," the minister said.

    But Thomas Mücke, chairman of the Violence Prevention Network de-radicalization program, said this was not particularly new. Latent xenophobia is always likely to spill over into violence when something perceived as a social crisis arises.
    Equally, one has to make certain distinctions, he argued. "The so-called 'lone wolves' - defined as those who have absolutely no contact to the scene - are a rarity," he told DW. "Then there are those who act outside the scene, without the scene necessarily knowing about it, but who have been incited and encouraged by it."

    "Those people act without orders," Mücke added. "That happens a lot - but the true lone wolves - like Anders Breivik in Norway - are very rare."

    Last year's influx of refugees into Germany has triggered a corresponding increase in attacks on the new arrivals. In all, the North-Rhine Westphalian intelligence agency recorded 222 "far-right-motivated" crimes against refugee homes in 2015 - almost a ninefold increase on the 25 attacks in 2014. Three-quarters of these were limited to property damage, propaganda, and incitement to hatred.
    While most of the arson attacks happened when refugee homes were still unoccupied, one fire, in October 2015 in the small town of Altena, was set in a home with seven refugees inside (two suspects have been arrested and will go on trial this year).

    There was even the emergence of what the agency described as a "terrorist organization" - the so-called "Oldschool Society" (OSS), whose existence became known in mid-2014, and which became increasingly radicalized in early 2015 until its leadership was arrested in May that year on suspicion of planning attacks on refugee homes in Saxony.


    But more notable was the fact that the investigators did not see any "central control of these xenophobic attacks by extremist right-wing organizations."

    The intel agency noted that last October's near-fatal stabbing on Cologne mayoral candidate Henriette Reker showed how far-right violence was spreading beyond the neo-Nazi scene: That showed that "sympathizers of organized far-right extremism can get radicalized at any time and commit serious acts of violence."

    The intelligence agency's announcement was also clear about the roots of the new trend: "The inhuman campaigns against refugees by the far-right have contributed to a brutalization of the political climate," it read. "The number and severity of increasing attacks on refugee homes are extremely worrying."

    Different circles of extremism

    Mücke pointed out that far-right ideology has always been wider and deeper than the visible far-right scene.
    "There is a kind of hardcore far-right scene, which is politically active and which comes together in certain subcultures, like the skinhead scene, to carry out violent crimes as part of a peer group," said Mücke.
    http://www.dw.com/en/german-intel-mo...ing/a-19379532

    This is extremely troubling.
    I hope Chancellor Merkel and her government act swiftly to combat this hate. Germany has been a beacon of hope for Europe and it would be such a shame if that changed.

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    Is this them?

    Looks like my old D&D group.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hubcap View Post


    Is this them?

    Looks like my old D&D group.
    An example..


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    Yeah... some people in Germany (German here) even vote for those trashy nazis. They copy the canadian migration system and thing this rightist shit could work in Europe. It will not. We will stand firm and make Merkel the light of hope in this sad world.https://mediendienst-integration.de/...ngsgesetz.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    http://www.dw.com/en/german-intel-mo...ing/a-19379532

    This is extremely troubling.
    I hope Chancellor Merkel and her government act swiftly to combat this hate. Germany has been a beacon of hope for Europe and it would be such a shame if that changed.
    Sure just as long as Merkel and the refugees stop their hate. Hate breeds hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hiram View Post
    We will stand firm and make Merkel the light of hope in this sad world.
    Is there a German word for something that appears to be satire yet is in fact genuine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by purebalance View Post
    Sure just as long as Merkel and the refugees stop their hate. Hate breeds hate.
    Yeah, because if they don't, people just wont be able to help themselves in becoming Nazis. They just have no power over whether to remain ordinary German citizens or give in to the mad ramblings of a fascistic, xenophobic militant party.

    Damn, do I wish people had free will.
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    Turbotastic! Have some Nazis!
    Human progress isn't measured by industry. It's measured by the value you place on a life.

    Just, be kind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smrund View Post
    Turbotastic! Have some Nazis!
    We'll need Indiana Jones to come in and clean house.
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    Kaleredar is right...
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    Peoplw defending their home =/= nazi

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    I take that these right wing groups never end up attacking refugees that were actually causing harm to anyone. They are probably attacking innocent families who are not bothering anyone.

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    Surely turbo-Nazis would imply they are worse than the actual Nazis were, which they're not. It's weird how weak the impact of the word "nazi" alone seems to people now. Because of rampant overuse, maybe?

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    Well looks like not all Germans are in favour of self-destruction, good for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexeht View Post
    Well looks like not all Germans are in favour of self-destruction, good for them.
    Yeah, Germany's last bout with Nazism ended so spectacularly for them.
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    Turbo-nazis?

    meh

    They are no match for Commi-Nazis

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilist74 View Post
    I take that these right wing groups never end up attacking refugees that were actually causing harm to anyone. They are probably attacking innocent families who are not bothering anyone.
    'Attack' in this case doesn't necessarily mean what the rest of the world would consider one. 75 or 80% of the cases are symbolism, usually a drunk idiot using the Nazi salute or chanting 'Heil Hitler'.

    While that's not necessarily palatable, in the mind of remotely sane people - i.e. more brain than a tennisball - it's less of a threat than axe-swinging, truck-driving and raping barbarians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Yeah, Germany's last bout with Nazism ended so spectacularly for them.
    As long as they would do what they want in theirs country I have no problem with this. If they attack Poland again to start WWIII then we will have problem xD

    I'm not really in favour of racism/xenophobia, but I understand why some people will support that kind of attacks - it must really feel bad seeing so many foreigners in your country, which do not really want to work as they came there just to take welfare ...

    Sad truth is that most (not all of them - but majority) middle easterns do not want to assimilate with people in Europe, theirs wifes will never speak anything other than arabic, and they will reproduce as many times as possible just to create more people which think that they are entitled to welfare from white people just because they do not believe in theirs god ...
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    black people have no power, privilege they cannot be racist since they were oppressed
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    Men are NOT suffering societal hardships due to being male. That doesn't exist in most 1st world countries.

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    Not surprised at all, though I'm not sure I would call someone defending their homeland "Nazis"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Yeah, Germany's last bout with Nazism ended so spectacularly for them.
    222 recorded attacks from a population of 81 million, the reich is on the rise again...

    cut the hyperbole.

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