2016 GOP Convention - Cleveland, Ohio - July 18-21

[PACOX]

So your voting for Trump because his kids seemed okay at a convention? How about setting the bar a bit higher?

I wonder if he will switch if Chelsey does good at the DNC.

[alexw]

So your voting for Trump because his kids seemed okay at a convention? How about setting the bar a bit higher?

This is my take on Ghostpanther from the threads where he has posted and my interactions with him. He is an older (50+) American from a small town in middle American and not a big city person. He is seeing the country change around him from being Reaganite small town conservative where people like him dominated, to one much more liberal and big city values dominated. And he absolutely hates it. He truly loathes it with every last shred of his being. He wants the US to be like it was 50 years ago where people of color had little say, where liberal millennials didn't exist, and where if you were gay you'd not be uppity and have parades but hide yourself and what you were doing in the shadows, so he'd not see it or have to think about disgusting people doing disgusting things (in his view). He in essence wants his country back (not that it was ever his) by turning the clock back 50 years. This is why he doesn't give a damn about the fact that Trump has no real policies whatsoever, because specific policies to increase real wages, or fix infrastructure, or tackle global warming, or fix the student debt issue, etc, are not what he wants. He doesn't give a damn about those things. He wants Trump because he sees in Trump a general tone that he desires, he sees an extreme Authoritarian who will use the force of the state to re-engineer society to how it was. Who will turn the clock back. So laws that will discriminate against gays, laws that will disenfranchise democratic party voters, laws that make the country more white, laws that make the country more insular.

[Toxigen]

Trump killed it last night.

[Puupi]

When did Jon Stewart become a hobo?

[Pterodactylus]

They did make actual policy

Policy? Are you sure?

[Lenonis]

Here's a good reason why Trump shouldn't be president.

He says things like this:

This was probably one of the most peaceful, most beautiful, most love-filled conventions in the history of conventions

[Felya]

Trump killed it last night.

What was he trying to save?

https://youtu.be/ZG_k5CSYKhg

[JohnBrown1917]

Here's a good reason why Trump shouldn't be president.

He says things like this:

Stand-up comedy is not his strong point. And outright saying you won't honour NATO is just an invitation for the nations that the U.S is deterring from invading certain countries.

[Lenonis]

Stand-up comedy is not his strong point. And outright saying you won't honour NATO is just an invitation for the nations that the U.S is deterring from invading certain countries.

It is so hard to think he's not just being the ultimate troll. I mean....how can you say some of those things and actually mean them?

[Pangean]

It is so hard to think he's not just being the ultimate troll. I mean....how can you say some of those things and actually mean them?

I think for many that's the point. He at his core doesn't believe them. They are quite simply a tool to get elected. He is appealing to his followers that desire an authoritarian who will "fix" problems they perceive. They don't care that he is telling them that only he can fix the issues and will do it on day one of his administration which is patently ridiculous. They only care that their personal boogeymen will be taken care of by Trump.

[Felya]

It is so hard to think he's not just being the ultimate troll. I mean....how can you say some of those things and actually mean them?

Too many times people who share Trump's views have been celebrated as Trolls. You can still see it in the forum, where people laugh it off as a troll. But, there are a lot of people who seriously believe it. Enouph to put Trump where he is...

[Lenonis]

Too many times people who share Trump's views have been celebrated as Trolls. You can still see it in the forum, where people laugh it off as a troll. But, there are a lot of people who seriously believe it. Enouph to put Trump where he is...

I'm not so much talking about his stances like the wall or muslim banning -- that's not trolling in my book, just extremist views.

But more where you have a convention where people were booing speakers and chanting for Hillary to go to jail and stating it was the "most loving" convention ever.

[Paranoid Android]

I would have voted Kasich if he was against Hillary. He is moderate, his positions make sense. The only position I don't agree with him on is his pro-life. I mean, read his site, watch the debates, he is what I would call presidential material. WTF was wrong with him to the republican's eyes?

I will say this, if Hillary does win this election I hope republican's learn for next election cycle that crazy just doesn't work. She should have been an easy opponent to beat.

Yeah I am pretty much step in step with you. I'm not a 100% Kasich guy but I would have taken him serious in giving him my vote.

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Thiel. This will be interesting

Thiel is interesting. He supposedly this ultra libertarian yet stated:

Thiel has actually argued that freedom and democracy are incompatible — suggesting a greater willingness to use illiberal tactics to accomplish worthwhile ends.

http://www.vox.com/2016/7/21/1221662...l-donald-trump

I also wonder why he would support a party who wants to suppress LGBTQ rights. Yes, no all gays are a single issue voter, but again he is libertarian. Oh and gay.

He seems more of going to a Libertarian Party. I guess his ration is he has to try to pick a winner and the Libertarians have no chance.