Mass shooting Olympia shopping center in Munich, Germany.

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Don't know about Korea, but Japan is actually very smart about immigration. It attracts almost exclusively high quality specialists and researchers, providing them with luxurious quality of life, plus occasional asylum seekers from China or North Korea. Without immigration, Japan's economy would plummet: in fact, the reason it got out of third world and into one of the most prosperous countries in the world is that it took in a lot of Western specialists and learned from them.

Right now, there is a lot of talk on increasing immigration, because Japan is losing its touch as it is, not having as much interaction with the rest of the world as it needs.

google : what japan thinks about muslims

then you know why they are one the best countries in the world

[dholland662]

Don't know about Korea, but Japan is actually very smart about immigration. It attracts almost exclusively high quality specialists and researchers, providing them with luxurious quality of life, plus occasional asylum seekers from China or North Korea. Without immigration, Japan's economy would plummet: in fact, the reason it got out of third world and into one of the most prosperous countries in the world is that it took in a lot of Western specialists and learned from them.

Right now, there is a lot of talk on increasing immigration, because Japan is losing its touch as it is, not having as much interaction with the rest of the world as it needs.

actually Japan isnt discussing immigration as a solution to its declining population. they are discussing automation

[May90]

google : what japan thinks about muslims

then you know why they are one the best countries in the world

There is a small Muslim population in Japan, and I've been there quite a few times, talking to people about things overseas - no one talked about Muslims at all, except for one very old guy who used to work as an ambassador in Kuwait: he said he really liked the place and people.

Japan is a pretty self-contained country, and simple folks do not care much about what happens beyond their borders, except for the US, which is a big topic there. They definitely do not discriminate against Muslims - not any more than they do against other foreigners. In fact, from what I understand, they dislike Chinese the most.

actually Japan isnt discussing immigration as a solution to its declining population. they are discussing automation

Immigration too. Their economy got stale in the latest years, and they suspect that them being isolated from other nations might play the role in it. There were a lot of pro-immigration demonstrations a couple of years ago, and I think they even got the government to make the law a bit more liberal in this regard.

[Slant]

the terrorists attacks are definitively a factor that play a role, because if they continue to release information on detailed refugee numbers it would lead to a very toxic mood in the country.
People connect the dots and see a relation between those two events.

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honestly your comment is only intended to make white people look bad. You try to use the most basic term to describe the iranian, reducing him to a german citizen and thus making people believe he is a white german.

disgusting mate. say it like it is.

You do realise you're one of the first to be deported if you get it your way, don't you?

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actually Japan isnt discussing immigration as a solution to its declining population. they are discussing automation

it's definitively the better way in the long run.

There will come a day when machines are taking over more and more jobs and people need to look for something else. Having lots of unqualified immigrants will lead to massive unemployment then

[Slant]

Actually that's German law.

What law would that be?

[Wildtree]

It is used to mean European though.

Wait, what?

The fuck?

[Deleted]

You do realise you're one of the first to be deported if you get it your way, don't you?

what the hell are you even talking about "get it your way"?

Are you putting words in my mouth again? Tell me exactly what it means so we can have a discussion instead of assuming what I want based on your wrong perception of me.

... please grow up and learn to argument like a somewhat educated person instead of slandering people

[Wildtree]

What law would that be?

I think he means it's law that when you're born in Germany that you are German.

[Tennis]

Well seems after all that the killer was a lone wolf racist who hated migrants, too bad he wasn't a "Muslim terrorist" hein ?

let's move on then ! #PrayForMunich hasn't trended anyway ...

https://www.rt.com/news/352734-munic...g-mall-deaths/

Why do we still have so much Muslim bashing going on in this thread?
Sad that bigotry is allowed on here.

[Deleted]

What law would that be?

Since you seem - unsurprisingly - unfit to google, let me help you:

Deutschland verwendete das Geburtsortsprinzip bis zum Beginn des 19. Jahrhunderts. Seit der Einführung der ersten Staatsangehörigkeitsgesetze (Preußen: 1842) wurde das Abstammungsprinzip als herrschender Erwerbstatbestand eingeführt. Seit dem Reichs- und Staatsangehörigkeitsgesetz 1913 galt im Deutschen Reich ein reines ius sanguinis. Mit der Staatsangehörigkeitreform 2000 wurde mit dem sogenannten „Optionsmodell“ ein ergänzendes ius soli für die zweite Einwanderergeneration eingeführt.

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I think he means it's law that when you're born in Germany that you are German.

It's the opposite.

You are not ALWAYS german even if you are born in Germany.

For example : 2 Iranian people visit germany. A women and a men. The women is pregnant and gives birth to the baby. That baby is NOT german even if it was born in germany.

[dholland662]

There is a small Muslim population in Japan, and I've been there quite a few times, talking to people about things overseas - no one talked about Muslims at all, except for one very old guy who used to work as an ambassador in Kuwait: he said he really liked the place and people.

Japan is a pretty self-contained country, and simple folks do not care much about what happens beyond their borders, except for the US, which is a big topic there. They definitely do not discriminate against Muslims - not any more than they do against other foreigners. In fact, from what I understand, they dislike Chinese the most.


Immigration too. Their economy got stale in the latest years, and they suspect that them being isolated from other nations might play the role in it. There were a lot of pro-immigration demonstrations a couple of years ago, and I think they even got the government to make the law a bit more liberal in this regard.

Mostly automation. And certainly not immigration like what Europe is doing, which is the issue

[Wildtree]

Since you seem - unsurprisingly - unfit to google, let me help you:

Don't get cocky..
You were to understand either way.
I understood you correctly. He wasn't sure.

[dholland662]

Why do we still have so much Muslim bashing going on in this thread?
Sad that bigotry is allowed on here.

Because the guy was Iranian

[NullPointerException]

If you believe the government and media is telling you every single thing and not supressing anything in the slightest then .. well good for you. I wish I had taken the blue pill aswell

Indeed. I wish I could say I was amazed at the naivete displayed by some posters here, but they/you really should know better. Here's a quote from the German "Pressekodex" that underligns how well certain parties have already managed to blur the definition of "impartial reporting" in favour of political objectives.

Richtlinie 12.1 – Berichterstattung über Straftaten

In der Berichterstattung über Straftaten wird die Zugehörigkeit der Verdächtigen oder Täter zu religiösen, ethnischen oder anderen Minderheiten nur dann erwähnt, wenn für das Verständnis des berichteten Vorgangs ein begründbarer Sachbezug besteht.

Besonders ist zu beachten, dass die Erwähnung Vorurteile gegenüber Minderheiten schüren könnte.

Source: wxw.presserat.de/pressekodex/pressekodex/#panel-ziffer_12____diskriminierungen (need to fix the url manually ("www"), can't post links yet)

Translation: If suspects belong to ethnic, religious or other minorities, this should only be mentioned if required for understanding the issue presented. Press should bear in mind that pure mention of such could incite prejudice against minorities.

Whether good-intentioned or not, this guideline reveals that we have long departed from the idea of press neutrality and impartiality. Facts should be presented as they are; reporting should not be subject to considerations whether it conforms to political goals or not. This official document proves that press neutrality is no longer a goal.

N.B.: I am not sure any of this is pertinent to this tragic event; but Ji-tae definitely has a point in being critical of mainstream media reporting. There could very well be elements to the story that are withheld on purpose.

[Blobfish]

Suspect a Iranian - German

About 2 years ago, we had an Iranian immigrant go nutty & hold people hostage in Sydney .

Iranians can be quite arrogant.

As far as immigration goes, you never see Chinese or Asian immigrants go nutty and on MASS killing sprees.

So rather that the 3-6 shooters they where talking off earlier, this seems to be another attack from that
most despised fellow..

MR LONE WOLF

[Deleted]

I think he means it's law that when you're born in Germany that you are German.

Wrong. That's exactly what Germany - unlike France, USA - doesn't have. It has a ius sanguinis, you are German if you have German parents. That's it; full stop.

[dholland662]

it's definitively the better way in the long run.

There will come a day when machines are taking over more and more jobs and people need to look for something else. Having lots of unqualified immigrants will lead to massive unemployment then

Yea, the Union didnt have a labor surplus like the South so it invested in Industrialization.

And it won the american civil war because it had advanced technology for the time

[May90]

Mostly automation. And certainly not immigration like what Europe is doing, which is the issue

It is very hard to go along in the world, if your country is socially isolated from it. There was no inflation in Japan till recently, none - however, now the old model of self-contained production is no longer viable and competitive, and they seek to change it. They will likely follow the example of countries like Canada or Australia, strongly favoring qualified specialists, rather than European model with a more equal distribution of various social classes.

Because the guy was Iranian

The guy had Iranian citizenship; it isn't even clear whether he is religious yet.