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  1. #241
    Quote Originally Posted by Didactic View Post
    I was making a play on words concerning 'domestic terrorism' and the right wing's fascination with the subject by substituting 'nationalism' for it.

    But I mean, if you're just going to levy semantic arguments as a substitute for actual substance then by all means. I'd expect no less from someone who takes news spectacles as dire threats to the state.
    I take acts of war that kill thousands as dire threats to the states. Something you dismissed as less harmful as nationalism

    So once more like the raven I must ask. What does nationalism mean to you?

  2. #242
    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel SnackyCakes View Post
    Outlaw religion.
    Quote Originally Posted by Colonel SnackyCakes View Post
    Outlaw religion.
    You don't have to go that far. You just need to forbid saudi arabia to sponsor mosques in your country and send immams there.
    Why should a foreign nation sponsor a religion on a different countries soil anyway?
    Most if not all of the radical muslim priests are sent by saudi arabia

    You should also start raiding the mosques. France found arsenals of weapons hidden in them after the nice attack so i won't be surprised if youd find stuff like that in your country.

    Finally i think an invasion of iraq is in order now that isis declared war on the west. Taking these constant attacks as anything less but a declaration of war is delusional at this point.

    Also the massive surge of imigration needs to stop. We took enough in europe and we have our own poor and homeless people here that no one cares about. So keep the refugees we took until now but stop taking people from places where there are no wars like afganistan albania and so forth.
    I can't help but notice that the terrorists attack became even MORE frequent since the open border policy. And before you call me a racist or what not, note that Angela Merkel agreed with me in 2010



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  3. #243
    Quote Originally Posted by GennGreymane View Post
    At least from the M.E?

    My suggestions

    1. STOP FUCKING ARMING RANDOM GROUPS IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND PUTTING THEM IN POWER
    2. STOP CREATING SAID GROUPS THAT EXIST IN 1, IF NONE ARE PRESENT
    3. STOP FUNDING THE GROUPS MENTIONED IN 1 AND 2
    4. STOP DESTABILIZING COUNTRIES WITH NO END GOAL OTHER THAN ASSISTING THE RANDOM GROUPS IN 1 AND 2
    5. STOP BOMBING COUNTRIES AT THE OFF CHANCE YOU WILL KILL PEOPLE IN THE GROUPS MENTIONED IN 1 OR 2
    Quote Originally Posted by lonely zergling View Post
    Build a great wall around the middle east, send all (muslim) migrants back to their country of origin. Let them fight their internal conflicts for a couple of hundret years.

    After that open the wall and start trade and migration/immigration again.

    This is for ME terrorism, other forms of terrorism need different solutions obviously.
    These two would end terrorism, I concur. I'd argue a little bit about the Muslim bit, because prejudice pisses me off, but I'll ignore it, because the overall tone of the post is one I agree with. Except, of course, we can't build a wall around the ME. But it would be nice if we could. :P
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  4. #244
    Quote Originally Posted by Speshil View Post
    "We've got to kill their families!"

    Its what the russians did back in the comunist USSR

    http://articles.latimes.com/1986-01-...3892_1_soviets

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonely zergling View Post
    Build a great wall around the middle east, send all (muslim) migrants back to their country of origin. Let them fight their internal conflicts for a couple of hundret years.

    After that open the wall and start trade and migration/immigration again.

    This is for ME terrorism, other forms of terrorism need different solutions obviously.
    Becease those with bad intention would never lie.

    Nope.

    Never.

    Impossible.

  6. #246
    But but but but but...

    We have to oppose Iran's influence!!! How can we oppose Iran's influence unless we destabilize every Shia controlled area and flood them with Saudi proxy Wahabbi fundamentalists?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lonely zergling View Post
    Build a great wall around the middle east, send all (muslim) migrants back to their country of origin. Let them fight their internal conflicts for a couple of hundret years.

    After that open the wall and start trade and migration/immigration again.

    This is for ME terrorism, other forms of terrorism need different solutions obviously.
    I wish the Native Americans could've done the same when they got flooded by plague carrying Europeans fleeing from religious persecution and economic misery.

    But on a more serious note...

    What about migrants coming from that region who were born Muslim but aren't religious or practicing, like Salman Rushdie? I was born and raised Catholic...I'm as non religious and non believing as it can get, am I still a Christian by your logic? What do I need to do to drop that label? Burn some Bibles or maybe a Church to the ground?

    What about Muslims who's parents immigrated, but they were born and raised in Western nations? Especially when they don't even speak Arabic or whatnot anymore. You know ...people like Reza Aslan or Steve Jobs?

    What about Sufi Muslims? What about converts like Muhammad Ali, Malcom X or Ice Cube and Snoop Dog?
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  7. #247
    Quote Originally Posted by PrimaryColor View Post
    In case you didn't understand the analogy, solving relatively small issues by entirely destroying larger underlying principles is counterproductive.
    Terrorism is a relativly small issue? And Selling guns to terrorists are a "larger Underlying principle"?

    In case you havent noticed. This tread is about possible ways to reduce terrorism. You considering terrorism to be a small issue is quite irrelevant here.

    And as for your rediculus analogy, removing socialism whould indeed also remove the abuse of welfare, since there whouldnt be any welfare to abuse. So i guess we agree on the point then that stopping the selling of guns whould indeed reduce terrorism, since they whouldnt so easily be able to get their hands on guns.

    As for "destroying larger underlying principles" im pretty sure the goverment will still be in the market for guns, and all those schoolshooters aswell. Nothing will be destroyed, only reign in.

    Its almost like hitting two birds with one stone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aphrel View Post
    Terrorism is a relativly small issue? And Selling guns to terrorists are a "larger Underlying principle"?

    In case you havent noticed. This tread is about possible ways to reduce terrorism. You considering terrorism to be a small issue is quite irrelevant here.

    And as for your rediculus analogy, removing socialism whould indeed also remove the abuse of welfare, since there whouldnt be any welfare to abuse. So i guess we agree on the point then that stopping the selling of guns whould indeed reduce terrorism, since they whouldnt so easily be able to get their hands on guns.

    As for "destroying larger underlying principles" im pretty sure the goverment will still be in the market for guns, and all those schoolshooters aswell. Nothing will be destroyed, only reign in.

    Its almost like hitting two birds with one stone.
    remove welfare....i hope you like piles of corpses.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aphrel View Post

    In case you havent noticed. This tread is about possible ways to reduce terrorism. You considering terrorism to be a small issue is quite irrelevant here.
    You people could stop going on about it endlessly like some pathetic excuse for a human being that shits himself every time a muslim farts.

  10. #250
    1. Give everyone the opportunity to live a dignified life. Happy people tend to be a lot less violent.

  11. #251
    Abolish religion. That's the best I've got. Then again, we would just find some other excuse to blow each other up. Unfortunately, that's what we do and who we are as a species. Something about lessons in futility.

  12. #252
    Quote Originally Posted by breadisfunny View Post
    remove welfare....i hope you like piles of corpses.....
    Its not my analogy. Im all for welfare and socialism. Im from sweden afterall

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    Quote Originally Posted by advanta View Post
    You people could stop going on about it endlessly like some pathetic excuse for a human being that shits himself every time a muslim farts.
    The most recent attack in france is "a muslim fart"? The bombs on children playgrounds? The suicide bombers attacking trainstations?
    Its not like we are jumping the gun on an isolated incident and there are things we can do that doesnt compromise much our our part. For instance as i said earlier stop selling guns and explosives anywhere where religious extremism is happening. That alone whould not only make it harder for them to arm themselves, it whould also stabilize the region.
    Its not a soultion that will solve everything but... small steps man. Everything helps, and this is imo something that needs fixing and tbh its not liek im suggesting another invasion into the middle east. Just passing a few laws.

  13. #253
    Education is the only way.

  14. #254
    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    You'd have to enforce that, which requires an authoritarian state. Which would cause even more terrorism, even though we'd call it freedom fighters once the authoritarian state is removed and the freedom of religion is reinstated.
    Not really, japan has banned islam and it works very well. Teaching arabic in schools is forbiden, spreading islam is forbiden, muslims can't get japanese citisanship etc

    People need to get it through their thick skull that islam is an IDEOLOGY not a race. It is a far right ideology as well. And just as germany has banned nazzism in its country. If it would desire it could ban islam as well.

  15. #255
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    Neutron bombs would help

  16. #256
    Quote Originally Posted by veehro View Post
    Not really, japan has banned islam and it works very well. Teaching arabic in schools is forbiden, spreading islam is forbiden, muslims can't get japanese citisanship etc

    People need to get it through their thick skull that islam is an IDEOLOGY not a race. It is a far right ideology as well. And just as germany has banned nazzism in its country. If it would desire it could ban islam as well.
    You can get the Japanese citizenship if you are Muslim, propagation of Islam is not banned and you can also import the Quran etc. into Japan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elim Garak View Post
    The most extreme form of totalitarianism will get rid of terrorism. Hitler was a pussy compared to what it would take.
    I think it's fitting a former member of the obsidian order would suggest this.

  18. #258
    I've always associated fear of terrorism with innumeracy. You are incredibly unlikely to be killed in a terrorist attack, they account for a tiny amount of the 1000 or so murders that happen every day on Earth. It isn't that big of an issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veehro View Post
    Not really, japan has banned islam and it works very well. Teaching arabic in schools is forbiden, spreading islam is forbiden, muslims can't get japanese citisanship etc
    No it hasn't. Stop making up bullshit.

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    First accept that fact that Terrorism is never going to end. There are over 7 billion people on this planet and it is impossible to constantly police and monitor all of them. That is just flat out harsh reality.

    Reducing terrorism is possible. ISIS only bombs people because they are getting bombed themselves. Muslims in general, which are one of the largest groups of people on the planet, are really pissed off that US drone strikes are killing a lot of their innocent civilians yet Americans still parade around like the good guy. Muslims are aware that Americans invaded their country and refuse to leave mainly because we have a vested interest in controlling and regulating their oil supply for our own greedy benefits.

    Basically, the people of the United States need to realize that the US is not the good guy in this on going war. A truce between middle eastern countries needs to be made. We stop bombing them, pull out from their country, and maybe offer to help repair the damage we have caused to their cities in exchange for them to stop bombing us. A lot of people are going to view this as "letting the terrorists win" but I think that's just immature prideful stupidity talking. I refuse to lower myself to argue with people of the "letting the terrorists win" view because they are children and not worth my time.

    A great man once said "peace can only be achieved through understanding" and the American people need to wise up and understand the all the pain that they have caused to the Muslim people. If we actually care about Muslims and treat their culture with respect, they will respect us back and violence and American hate sentiment will fade.

    I don't expect many to take this view seriously.
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  20. #260
    Quote Originally Posted by Kangodo View Post
    Japan has not banned Islam.
    1. Japan has freedom of religion.
    2. Japan has more than enough mosques.
    3. There are Muslims that obtained Japanese citizenship.
    4. Japanese authority is 'not allowed' to ask for your religion.
    5. The largest part of Japanese Muslims are natives that converted to Islam.
    6. It literally took me 10 seconds to find a school that teaches Arabic and it's located in Tokyo.

    Pro-tip: If an article on Infowars.com tells you about something, usually the complete opposite is true.

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    No, it couldn't.
    Germany has a constitution and article 4 makes sure it's not banned.
    It also gives citizens the right to tell the government to go fuck themselves when they ask you what your religion is.

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