Donald Trump’s remarks on NATO ‘not helpful,’ says Canada’s defence minister

[Kalis]

Why did you link a picture of an Iranian?

He carries a knife, so watch who you are calling an Iranian Frenchie.

[Endus]

Why did you link a picture of an Iranian?

You're kidding, right? Playing dumb for humor's sake?

[Tennis]

What does article V have anything to do with what I said? Its not like the US needed it to go into the middle east.

Then why didn't the U.S. go it alone?

[Ghostpanther]

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2...-minister.html

DJT is becoming more and more unpopular with every day that goes by. He really is a rookie at this isn't he? Truly underestimating the value of NATO some would argue.

One could argue just the opposite is happening. And I know it is still too early for polls to mean that much, but this one from Gravis http://www.realclearpolitics.com/doc..._July_2016.pdf show Trump actually leading Hillary slightly. A month ago, most polls showed Hillary with large leads. I still think it will be a close race, with the swing states playing a major role in the outcome.

On topic, Trump simply wants more NATO countries to pay more for their own defense. That would be good for the US. After all, put Americans first, is one of his main slogans.

[hydrium]

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2...-minister.html

DJT is becoming more and more unpopular with every day that goes by. He really is a rookie at this isn't he? Truly underestimating the value of NATO some would argue.

Every country is "supposed" to pay 2%, guess why Canada is upset at Trump,

[zorkuus]

Please give a coherent reason why Canada should up their defense budget when no one is attacking us.

Maybe he made a threat? The US will attack you.

[hydrium]

The people of the entire United States are truly lucky to have you as their spokesperson.

Yea, you're right. We love picking up the rest of the worlds slack in nearly every department. We're thrilled to have less money to spend on our own citizens instead of having to babysit everyone else because they refuse to do it themselves.

[Gsara]

Then why didn't the U.S. go it alone?

Because article 5 was invoked the day after 9/11 by members of NATO. Again though, the US was going in with or without it and NATO calling article 5 was actually a bit of a surprise.

[Frontenac]

Please give a coherent reason why Canada should up their defense budget when no one is attacking us.

Because our armed forces are ill-equiped, our fighters (CF-18) obsolete and our navy unable to protect our own coasts. When you are part of an alliance, you must be able to do your part, proportional to your means. Canada is one of the most prosperous countries in the world and should be able to do better. Afterall, defense is one of the jurisdiction of the federal government, not healthcare. The federal should improve our armed forces and stop telling the provinces what they should do with healthcare.

Still, Donald Trump is a loud, offensive (insert any derogative noun) with an inflated ego. He should get a crash course on diplomacy 101 on how to speak to his allies. A superpower like USA cannot allow itself to be isolationist. It needs allies because allies means more influence and can even give a moral caution to its actions. A multilateral action is far better in our multipolar world that a unilateral action that has not been approved by UN, NATO or other allies.

[zorkuus]

Yea, you're right. We love picking up the rest of the worlds slack in nearly every department. We're thrilled to have less money to spend on our own citizens instead of having to babysit everyone else because they refuse to do it themselves.

Newsflash: a lot of your "defence" budget isn't going on defence. Start cutting that attack budget and you will have more money to spend on your citizens.

[Kalis]

One of these things is not like the others.

British special snowflake status confirmed.

[Frontenac]

Why did you link a picture of an Iranian?

He is a Sikh...

[derpkitteh]

this is another place i agree with trump. don't pay up, fuck off.

canada's a shitshow right now anyway, with your overly liberal weakness. maybe watching your own back for a while would strengthen you.

[hydrium]

Because our armed forces are ill-equiped, our fighters (CF-18) obsolete and our navy unable to protect our own coasts. When you are part of an alliance, you must be able to do your part, proportional to your means. Canada is one of the most prosperous countries in the world and should be able to do better. Afterall, defense is one of the jurisdiction of the federal government, not healthcare. The federal should improve our armed forces and stop telling the provinces what they should do with healthcare.

Still, Donald Trump is a loud, offensive (insert any derogative noun) with an inflated ego. He should get a crash course on diplomacy 101 on how to speak to his allies. A superpower like USA cannot allow itself to be isolationist. It needs allies because allies means more influence and can even give a moral caution to its actions. A multilateral action is far better in our multipolar world that a unilateral action that has not been approved by UN, NATO or other allies.

The USA will never be isolationist but it is starting to turn more nationalist and that's not a bad thing regardless of what globalist progressives say.

[Kalis]

He is a Sikh...

Sikh is a religion, Iranian is a nationality, the two are not mutually exclusive, though probably very rare.

[hydrium]

Sikh is a religion, Iranian is a nationality, the two are not mutually exclusive, though probably very rare.

Sikhs are bro tier.

[fengosa]

this is another place i agree with trump. don't pay up, fuck off.

canada's a shitshow right now anyway, with your overly liberal weakness. maybe watching your own back for a while would strengthen you.

You must have missed the part of the thread where Canada has never been attacked by a foreign country.

[Frontenac]

Sikh is a religion, Iranian is a nationality, the two are not mutually exclusive, though probably very rare.

Then why do you bother mentionning it? If you want to be nitpicky, then I would say that Sikhs are coming from India (Punjab).

[twelvethirty]

trump is right. nato requires you to pay 2% of your gdp towards national defense. if you dont why should you be defended if you wont defend yourself? free american defense has been relied upon for far too long and its time the rest of the alliance ponied up.

[Deleted]

trump is right. nato requires you to pay 2% of your gdp towards national defense. if you dont why should you be defended if you wont defend yourself? free american defense has been relied upon for far too long and its time the rest of the alliance ponied up.

NATO have been supporting the US in Afghanistan for years.

The US has never defended anybody in NATO from anything.