Donald Trump’s remarks on NATO ‘not helpful,’ says Canada’s defence minister

[Kalis]

Ok, you're just being silly. I'm through with you.

Adieu.

How dare someone on a forum point out that religion =/= nationality!

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Russian rule over Europe > Muslim rule over Europe, maybe not in terms of strategic interests for the United States but at least in terms of a human-progress perspective. So if Donald Trump says he wants to step back from protecting Europe, so be it.

Muslims are not going to rule over Europe, they can barely even control the countries they have, which is part of the problem.

[Low Hanging Fruit]

How dare someone on a forum point out that religion =/= nationality!

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Muslims are not going to rule over Europe, they can barely even control the countries they have, which is part of the problem.

I don't think their goal is to rule Europe. I mean honestly what does one really get there anymore beside tourist destinations and people that need government to float their lives. The goal is more likely to just create a stream of steady slaughter and fear with no real political reason or military objective. Hell at this point it doesn't even take an organization like ISIS anymore. They are already there, segregated, and hated enough to fuel themselves for generations to come if the tap was completely cut off already. Which it isn't. So good luck with that.

[Kalis]

I don't think their goal is to rule Europe. I mean honestly what does one really get there anymore beside tourist destinations and people that need government to float their lives.

You know that stereotype of Americans being ignorant of anything outside their little bubble? You fit that.

[May90]

Are Trump's remarks on anything helpful?

[Tennis]

You know that stereotype of Americans being ignorant of anything outside their little bubble? You fit that.

As someone who has visited several European countries, his point hits home.

[Kalis]

As someone who has visited several European countries, his point hits home.

No it doesn't, it just shows that you are ignorant as well.

[Sama-81]

As someone who has visited several European countries, his point hits home.

I've got a friend that visited Vancouver once. According to him, Canada is hardly a first world country (as in markedly less so than northern/western Europe, at any rate), and the streets full of homeless junkies. Not sure what really transpired on that trip, but his opinion on the matter seems to be about as objective, enlightened and intelligent as yours. Ie, not particularly.

[Tennis]

I've got a friend that visited Vancouver once. According to him, Canada is hardly a first world country (as in markedly less so than northern/western Europe, at any rate), and the streets full of homeless junkies. Not sure what really transpired on that trip, but his opinion on the matter seems to be about as objective, enlightened and intelligent as yours. Ie, not particularly.

Vancouver? 1 city he visited?
That's not a very compelling argument at all. How many did you visit?

Visit the best city in North America at the very least.

[Kalis]

Visit the best city in North America at the very least.

He did not mention if the person had been to the US, so may well have visited New York.

[Sama-81]

Vancouver? 1 city he visited?
That's not a very compelling argument at all. How many did you visit?

Visit the best city in North America at the very least.

My point was that his statement was stupid - as was yours. Noone needs to visit the "best city" of a continent to come up with one of those, nor more than one of them. And by the way, what cities did you visit yourself then, who feel that visiting the "best city" (like that's even a thing) of a continent is the least one can do before coming up with a blanket statement, like the one you made yourself earlier?

[Independent voter]

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2...-minister.html

DJT is becoming more and more unpopular with every day that goes by. He really is a rookie at this isn't he? Truly underestimating the value of NATO some would argue.

Canada has a defense minister?

[Deathquoi]

What's the one country to benefit from Article V?

Are you seriously pretending that just because other countries haven't invoked Article V, they don't benefit from it? The fuck?

[Tennis]

Are you seriously pretending that just because other countries haven't invoked Article V, they don't benefit from it? The fuck?

How many times has China or Russia attacked or even threatened Canada?

[Deathquoi]

How many times has China or Russia attacked or even threatened Canada?

Canada is not the only other party to NATO, and you'd have to be an idiot to think that Article 5 isn't a major deterrent to attacking any NATO nation.

[Tennis]

He did not mention if the person had been to the US, so may well have visited New York.

There really isn't any ranking I've come across that puts NYC as the best city. Been there multiple times. It's interesting for sure but hardly the best place to live.

[THE Bigzoman]

Yea, you're right. We love picking up the rest of the worlds slack in nearly every department. We're thrilled to have less money to spend on our own citizens instead of having to babysit everyone else because they refuse to do it themselves.

Only for them to be the biggest critics after the fact.


I actually agree here. Let some of our biggest critics secure their own global interests.

[Kalador]

Sounds to me like he is just pissed that Canada wont be able to continue riding on the back of the US and might actually have to spend some money on defense and then they wont be able to continue paying for all of their socialist programs. We (the US) are sick and tired of footing everyone else's bill!

Ahahahaha everyone else bill, if you spend so much on millitary program and war it's not because other country don't want to spend, it's cause a big part of your economy revolve around making weapon and selling them/ maintenance of said weapon.

If trump wants to cut military budget and stop going to war good for him but he's going to have some powerful loby trying to stop him... so many company run on the gov. money, they spend close to 1% of the GDP just on maintenance. other country that don't make weapon have no reason to spend so much on it... U.S defense budget is just a giant help fund for U.S manufacturing and U.S economy hidden under something that conservative love so they don't complain about too much gov. spending on helping company that would fail without it.

[Kalis]

There really isn't any ranking I've come across that puts NYC as the best city. Been there multiple times. It's interesting for sure but hardly the best place to live.

There are things to do in New York, which places it above the entirity of Canada by default.

[Rennadrel]

But wouldn't it be great if you could defend yourself?

We could if we stopped defending other people. Last I checked, those twats down south kept dragging Canada into their wars.

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There are things to do in New York, which places it above the entirity of Canada by default.

At least in Canada, you don't have to worry about getting shot by some deranged idiot with an assault rifle.

[Kalis]

At least in Canada, you don't have to worry about getting shot by some deranged idiot with an assault rifle.

That has never worried me in New York either.