Legion Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Kjanaprik]

Well you need to finish all the questing areas for the flying achievement, and I believe collecting all the pillars of creation from the end of the zones is required for some stuff.

So I don't think it's worth trying to find faster ways to level when you have to do it all anyways, and there isn't an achievement for being first anymore.

You also need to be friendly with all factions to get the world quests to spawn, which requires doing the leveling zones (you get them shortly into the zone, but still requires you to enter all the zones and do quite a few quests in each)

[Phinx]

Hm, so a DK can literally summon the Four Horsemen. No I'm wondering if other classes will get new abilities through there class hall campaign aswell.

[Deleted]

It fucking is, always was and will be better to start at 105 than 100. Why ? because shit scales and also you will be able to do some zones at 110 and work on other stuff while other people are chopping mobs around level 107. So you can get 1 day headstart.

[emilylorange]

It fucking is, always was and will be better to start at 105 than 100. Why ? because shit scales and also you will be able to do some zones at 110 and work on other stuff while other people are chopping mobs around level 107. So you can get 1 day headstart.

Headstart on what? No feat of strength and no raids unlocked for several weeks.

[Phinx]

https://imgur.com/a/EMaYc

Just got this buff on my lvl 62 DK after logging in back to the game.

[Kjanaprik]

You still need to go through half of each zone anyways to get the emissary caches/world quests to proc, and with the scaling it means you'll just be fighting the last two zones or so scaled up to level 110 instead of 108/109

[Keltas]

Honestly the only head start I can imagine is hitting lvl 110 and getting an emissary cache on launch day and starting artifact knowledge research ASAP. Everyone who is serious about gearing will get 110 and clear all mythics in the first week for sure so the only thing that would change is whether you can get every possible emissary cache for chances on legendaries.

Once you hit 110 you clear every available quest for the AP, check every few hours for AP world quests and otherwise spam LFG dungeons for more AP and chances on Legendaries. That's presuming you have no need to sleep or go to work

But the emissary quest from the first day will just roll over. You get what, like 3 days to hit 110 before you start losing those?

Starting artifact knowledge a couple hours early is nice I guess if you care about the 30~ ap you gain by doing so, but I really can't see that saving more time than you lose by still having to do all the legion quests.

[Venziir]

Any chance of a minor glyph for Paladins, like ''Minor Glyph of I play a Pally not a bloody Crusader!''

Paladins = Crusaders in WoW. Just look at the factions and npcs.

[Kjanaprik]

Not half. A fifth maybe. One of the 4-6 storylines of each zone is enough to hit friendly.

fair enough.

You'd still want to keep going for the AP, no? or will the worldquests make that obsolete day1? I know I'm getting few thousands of AP from worldquests, but that's boosted with artifact knowledge, which you will not have on day 1.

also

Do you need to complete the story for the pillars of creation for other reason than only to unlock the artifact skin/colour?

can't remember if it did something else for me, only leveled one char to 110 as to not burn out.

[Deleted]

Headstart on what? No feat of strength and no raids unlocked for several weeks.

Headstart on Artifact Knowledge research and on Order Hall campaign progress. Also ability to start suramar at 110.

[Orwell7]

You get five 24 hour missions somewhere along the campaign, and you won't be able to start Artifact Knowledge before completing those.
So, absolutely not necessary to get 110 asap.

[Deleted]

just got a mail that I am invited to join beta I am so happy.

[Neoxx]

Headstart on what? No feat of strength and no raids unlocked for several weeks.

Well at least for EU people it kind of matters.
Legion release is on a Tuesday at 00:00 and the usual ID reset is on Wednesday at 03:00. So if you are "hardcore" you will have an extra reset for mythic dungeons. Since they have no ilvl requirement and mythic+0 is doable with ~820 ilvl gear, you basicly get free loot.

[Reapocalypse]

Hm, so a DK can literally summon the Four Horsemen. No I'm wondering if other classes will get new abilities through there class hall campaign aswell.

Paladins got the same Ability with Liadrin and her Blood Knights.

[Nihilan]

Werent the WoD missives and bonus zone xp like massively nerfed with the explicit intent to prevent the Tryhards from doing exactly this?

Besides, even if it was possible to level to 105 in WoD zones, unless you are running around in 730+ mythic gear you are desperately going to need the gear you obtain while leveling in the first couple of the Legion zones. People are focusing on the fact that mob levels and HP are scaling without apparently considering that their damage output is scaling as well. Mobs in Legion hit harder than mobs do in WoD at the same level. If you run into a L105 mob with your iL 700 honor pvp gear, its going to curb-stomp you. Yes it will have a health pool similar to your own, but its power relative to your own is going to be huge bucause youve been ignoring gear progression in favor of skipping content you arent supposed to be skipping.

[effs]

Why did you post this

To remind people that August 2nd seems unlikely.

[Drekmar]

I wish they would start some event stuff this week.

[Deleted]

Probably a week or two at least between each installment like Lords of War, and I hate to burst your bubble but the last one is going to be about Illidan, not some random Demon Hunter NPC.

Even better

[Phinx]

Paladins got the same Ability with Liadrin and her Blood Knights.

That is amazing. Are there more of these abilities?

[Reapocalypse]

That is amazing. Are there more of these abilities?

I recommend just creating new Characters and look through your Followers in the Order Hall report menu, not sure if its on the PvP realm only. (if you got Beta ofc.)

If not wowhead/mmochampion should have a list somewhere.

Edit: http://www.wowhead.com/champions

To clarify, most Champions have a ability that you gain when selecting them as your Combat Ally.

Bodyguard means they will just follow you around, others have certain Abilitys or Passives that you gain on the Broken Shore.