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    Turkish news agency openly blames USA for coup (????)

    A close-up of Campbell's Turkish team that attempted coup
    Turkish members of the US commander Campbell-led group that organized a coup attempt in Turkey have been arrested in Dubai



    Following the detention of two high-ranking Turkish soldiers on duty in Afghanistan, U.S. commander Campbell's involvement in the July 15 coup attempt in Turkey has been clarified.

    Turkey's Afghanistan Task Force Commander Major General Cahit Bakır and Kabul Training, Support and Advising Commander Brigadier General Şener Topçu were detained in Dubai airport while attempting to flee the United Arab Emirates (UAE).



    Bakır and Topçu have been working with Campbell, the former U.S. Commander of the International Security Assistance Forces (ISAF), a NATO force in Afghanistan, for a long time during their duty in ISAF.

    Campbell retired from his post in ISAF earlier this year and undertook the “duty" for organizing the coup in Turkey.

    After his retirement in March, Campbell started working with an 80-person team of the American Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) to organize a group of Fetullah Terrorist Organization (FETÖ) gangs inside the Turkish military.

    His link with the coup attempt has come to light after the detention of two commanders of Turkish military units in ISAF.

    Both commanders tried to escape the UAE form Afghanistan, immediately after Turkish authorities issued an arrest warrant against them, as part of a wide-ranging investigation against FETÖ, a terror group led by US-based so-called Turkish cleric Fetullah Gülen.

    Retired Colonel Haydar Ateş the former commander of the Turkish troops in Afghanistan, said the United States army, stationed in the Bagram military base in Afghanistan, have carried out many operations to passivate Turkey's impact in the region.

    Col. Ateş, who had been leading the Turkish forces in Afghanistan, said the U.S. tried to obtain full control of ISAF, a NATO-led security mission in Afghanistan which the Turkish military also joined.

    In this context, the U.S. military has repeatedly attacked Turkish forces in Afghanistan between 2006 and 2009.

    Sometimes, the U.S. used its subcontractors inside the Taliban to hit the Turkish military.

    One of the patriotic commanders, Colonel Faruk Sunger, was martyred in a U.S. attack in Afghanistan, said Col. Ateş.

    Staff Colonel Faruk Sunger and Specialist Sergeant Mevlüt Baydır was killed on July 14, 2009, in a suspicious road traffic accident when both of them were on duty in Mazar-i-Sharif.

    Moreover, the Turkish units have faced several U.S. attacks, including an attack on an ISAF Turkish Unit convoy, a mine attack targeting Turkish forces, he said,adding that only Turkish military had not been allowed to enter airports in the region.

    Ateş added that a Turkish military helicopter had also been shot down by the U.S. forces during this period.

    In March 2012, one of Turkey's Skorsky-type helicopters that had been carrying Turkish military personnel, had crashed in the Bagrami area killing nine officers, two petty officers and a specialist sergeant. Afghan authority denied claims of any attack on the helicopter describing it an “accident".

    Ateş said that relations between FETÖ-linked Turkish military personnel in ISAF and the U.S. military must be investigated.

    ISAF has a direct effect on the failed coup attempt in Turkey, because the U.S. aimed to control the Turkish Armed Forces, or TAF, through FETÖ gangs.
    Question to the Turkish friends here:

    How legit is this news agency? Did the USA actually tried to pull another Ukraine to Turkey?
    Are there any other media claiming the same thing?
    What is your government stance on this?
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    I wouldn't be surprised if it's true. USA is the world police afterall.

    Not really bashing USA here but let's face it that CIA has a lot of hands.
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    Turkish Ambasador also calling for the Netherlands to arrest all Gulen followers in our country to bring them to Turkey.
    ErdoTurks are nuts.

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    I wouldn't be surprised if it's true. USA is the world police afterall.

    Not really bashing USA here but let's face it that CIA has a lot of hands.
    Seems more like Erdogan trying to find a scapegoat.

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    Pretty sure considering how much of a shit job the coup was, and how much Erdogan has gained since it's failing, it was all an inside job ...

    US involvement or not, no coup is started and stopped that quickly ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hyve View Post
    Pretty sure considering how much of a shit job the coup was, and how much Erdogan has gained since it's failing, it was all an inside job ...

    US involvement or not, no coup is started and stopped that quickly ...
    There is an author on that site (http://www.yenisafak.com/en/columns/...ay-war-2030741) that blames Turkey's allies that want its destruction. Let me quote:

    They are forcing Turkey into a Doomsday War

    A Turkey-Russia war was about to happen

    They tried to bury us in Syria. They used many circles on the inside for this purpose. They tried to set us up to war against Russia. This is why they downed the Russian plane. Both countries were going to be weakened through the Turkey-Russia crisis and prepared for operation. Perhaps a new Crimea war was going to be planned and Turkey was going to be taken hostage through this war. And perhaps they were going to plan an Iran-Turkey war.
    He doesn't mention US but i mean its pretty obvious he blames them.

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    Doesn't sound like a particularly credible source.
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    Yeah well to be fair everybody in the East blames West for its problems and vica versa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dezerte View Post
    Doesn't sound like a particularly credible source.
    It looks to me like the "mouth" of Ankara like Sputnik is the "mouth" of Kremlin.
    Usually in this kind of media articles are directed from government.

    But i am waiting for kant to enlighten us.

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    Erdogan starting up witch hunts, plans to change the laws so the president gets more power. Demanding other countries to be send to Turkey to be convicted without any crime, instigating conflict and division between followers of gulen and erdogan in other nations including my own.

    Can someone remind me again why this coup failing was a good thing, since i can't see it. Seems to me they prevented a maybe authoritarian ruling for a certain authoritarian ruler.

    Anyway, it seems to me Erdogan first tried to blame some European nations for similar things, such as claiming them helping the PKK and that backfired and diplomats were forced to apologize for said statements so now they are trying the next big scapegoat the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Acidbaron View Post
    Erdogan starting up witch hunts, plans to change the laws so the president gets more power. Demanding other countries to be send to Turkey to be convicted without any crime, instigating conflict and division between followers of gulen and erdogan in other nations including my own.

    Can someone remind me again why this coup failing was a good thing, since i can't see it. Seems to me they prevented a maybe authoritarian ruling for a certain authoritarian ruler.

    Anyway, it seems to me Erdogan first tried to blame some European nations for similar things, such as claiming them helping the PKK and that backfired and diplomats were forced to apologize for said statements so now they are trying the next big scapegoat the US.
    You guys also got ErdoTurks threating Turks who don't support Erdogan? Causing a ton of problems by harrasing companies, setting cars on fire, making blacklists of companies who do not support Erdy, and threaten to cleanse 'them'?

    Ofcourse, here we have the DENK party who also thinks Gulen performed the coup(they also deny the Armenian genocide), they are only throwing oil in the fire.
    But they still deny supporting Erdy lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    You guys also got ErdoTurks threating Turks who don't support Erdogan? Causing a ton of problems by harrasing companies, setting cars on fire, making blacklists of companies who do not support Erdy, and threaten to cleanse 'them'?

    Ofcourse, here we have the DENK party who also thinks Gulen performed the coup(they also deny the Armenian genocide), they are only throwing oil in the fire.
    But they still deny supporting Erdy lol.
    Yup not far from here Beringen, here's a new article about it since you can read dutch http://www.hln.be/hln/nl/957/Binnenl...Beringen.dhtml

    Went on for a few days, till representatives were gotten together, gulen supporters met differently since they still can't sit in the same room. To stop the nonsense, it finally ended, no cars were set on fire here since it was luckily a bit remote located. About the only thing that needs to die in a fire is this retarded turkish nationalism.

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    Am I understanding this right that Campbell, who is said to been part of orchestrating the coup, was formerly a US commander? That implies this mess happened after he left any position of authority in the US military, not during.
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    Oh brother this doesn't even make sense.

    Obama sided with Erdogan before anyone else in the world. I even called him out on it in the Turkey thread. He did it hours before it was even clear Erdogan was going to win. Maybe if Obama was slow condemning it, but he wasn't. He was way faster than he should have been.

    And now we organized it? And now we attacked our Turkish ally in Afghanistan?! What?

    The United States screws up from time time... but come on... that's really next level. That's fanciful to the extreme. This isn't even works of fiction. It's works of a nasty acid trip.

    This comes down to the Turkish government wanting Gulen, and the US Government not doing the right and proper thing and handing him over wrapped in a big red bow. He's no democrat. He's no dissident. He's another islamist, just one that Erdogan no longer gets along with. And even Turkey won't treat badly a frail old man.


    Hand him over, and wash our hands of it. It doesn't matter who rules Turkey so long as they do what we want, which Erdogan, despite being a pain in the ass, largely does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post


    Question to the Turkish friends here:

    How legit is this news agency? Did the USA actually tried to pull another Ukraine to Turkey?
    Are there any other media claiming the same thing?
    What is your government stance on this?
    The US does covert stuff like everyone else, but these allegations are fucking insane. Turkish military attacked by the US? Openly? This is beyond absurd. It's completely fucking insane. Not even Fox News would have the balls to make this stuff up.

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    There's one person who would have benefited from deliberately badly planned coup. Erdogod himself. Maybe they should look in the mirror on who's responsible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ulmita View Post


    Question to the Turkish friends here:

    How legit is this news agency? Did the USA actually tried to pull another Ukraine to Turkey?
    Are there any other media claiming the same thing?
    What is your government stance on this?
    So the US sent the pro russian rebels to fight ukrainian forces for them to Russia to steal crimea, man putin should love the US.
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