Slavery wasn't that bad?

[Daymanmb]

I'm surprised so many agree with him, not that he said it.

Thats the scary part... How many people believe Alex Jones? The number is bone chilling...

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If I have the ability to keep kicking you in the balls with absolutely no repercussions, then yes you should be grateful.

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[Vanyali]

Assuming the slaves that sold themselves into slavery were people, its still people selling people.



Ah right, so slavery isn't evil. Cool, we should bring it back.

Weren't sold. Contractually bound. Very different. That's what I mean when I atalk about differences that you're refusing to see because you have it tied up with hating America for some reason.

And no, slavery in itself is not bad... when done with the consent of the person to be enslaved. Generally, in such cases, contractual agreement helped them, or their families, while preventing maltreatment because they weren't property, they were workers.

But if you'd like I can express-ship you a wide brush so you can continue painting.

[petej0]

I'm surprised so many agree with him, not that he said it.

I dont understand what was so bad about what he said. He basically said, slaves werent the only ones who built the White House.

[Daymanmb]

Slavery has evolved. No longer are modern slaves in chains, we're in debt.

[Felya]

Just for clerify for those that don't seem to have the ability to see past race. Go read a little Shakespeare... Specifically Othallo, if you think British treatment of a moor is correlated with your race baiting... The motives of Brittain during colonization and US treatment of slaves is extremely different. It's why they didn't and don't have the race issues we do... The relationship detailed in Othallo, was illegal in US just around 50 years ago...

[kaid]

You must have failed US History. Since the Republican party was the one who was Anti-Slavery.

And then in the 1960s switched the part of its voter base that was the former anti-slavery coalition for the dixiecrats who were the previously pro slavery factions.

The transformation took time but now it is pretty much completed that the republicans and democrats largely swapped large geographical areas worth of voters. It is also reasons why you see donald trump the republican nominee polling at 0% amongst african americans in some battle ground states.

[Felya]

If I have the ability to keep kicking you in the balls with absolutely no repercussions, then yes you should be grateful.

That's why there is such a thing called shackles...

[kaid]

And if you think all those things that you listed didn't exist in America, or that they existed in every single instance of slavery in the ancient world, you're straight up wrong.

Slavery is people selling people. The rights that slaves get were various depending entirely on the owner.

Also look at the death tolls of the passage and transport of african slaves to the US. They are pretty well documented for insurance reasons and pretty horrifying at the death toll inflicted.

[Felya]

I dont understand what was so bad about what he said. He basically said, slaves werent the only ones who built the White House.

It's the well fed and decent housing, which tries to downplay or excuse what it is to be a slave.

[petej0]

It is also reasons why you see donald trump the republican nominee polling at 0% amongst african americans in some battle ground states.

Republicans have had very low African American support for the last, what, 50 years. It isnt something only attributable to Trump. The black community has disenfranchised their votes by blindly voting in block support of Democrats.

[alexw]

Except the Southern Strategy failed it never put a Republican president in the White House and the Southern Congressmen and Governors remained Democrat. It wasn't until Regan changed the focus of the party in the 80s to economic prosperity and responsibility that the South became a bastion of the republicans.

OK this is completely delusional. The southern strategy put quite a few republicans in the white house. Why do you think Reagan talked about states rights all the time? It was because the southern old confederate states saw desegregation as an infringement on their right to discriminate. They wanted the federal government defanged so they could reimpose Jim Crow.

[Draco-Onis]

Republicans have had very low African American support for the last, what, 50 years. It isnt something only attributable to Trump. The black community has disenfranchised their votes by blindly voting in block support of Democrats.

Republicans obviously haven't learned anything from that since they are starting to do the same thing with the Hispanic vote.

[petej0]

It's the well fed and decent housing, which tries to downplay or excuse what it is to be a slave.

Slaves that worked there were well-fed and had decent lodgings provided by the government, which stopped hiring slave labor in 1802. However, the feds did not forbid subcontractors from using slave labor. So, Michelle Obama is essentially correct in citing slaves as builders of the White House, but there were others working as well. Got it all? There will be a quiz.

His point was that government was in the business of hiring slaves but stopped at a certain point, thus the White House wasnt just built by slaves. The whole fed and housed part was thrown in there to show how the government treated the slaves.

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Republicans obviously haven't learned anything from that since they are starting to do the same thing with the Hispanic vote.

So they should cater to hispanics by ignoring immigration laws?

[Daymanmb]

His point was that government was in the business of hiring slaves but stopped at a certain point, thus the White House wasnt just built by slaves. The whole fed and housed part was thrown in there to show how the government treated the slaves.

The thing is, no one claimed it was built entirely by slaves, so he made a counter-argument to a point no one tried to make.

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So they should cater to hispanics by ignoring immigration laws?

I dont think thats what he said at all.

[Noxx79]

His point was that government was in the business of hiring slaves but stopped at a certain point, thus the White House wasnt just built by slaves. The whole fed and housed part was thrown in there to show how the government treated the slaves.

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So they should cater to hispanics by ignoring immigration laws?

No, they should cater to Hispanics by not having the presidential candidate whine that a Judge is biased against him because "He's Mexican"

[Daymanmb]

No, they should cater to Hispanics by not having the presidential candidate whine that a Judge is biased against him because "He's Mexican"

Itd be a nice start lol. Wishful thinking?

[alexw]

Your entire statement is ludacris. They lift them out of poverty to make poverty bearable but don't do anything to improve the situation? Tell me, which is an improvement, poverty or bearable poverty? You can't have it both ways.

This is traditional racist republican mantra at its best that you are shoveling. One only shovels shit and dirt and this smells like shit.

IMO this is why the republicans are on the dead to nowhere. They can't admit what their party has become and so cannot undertake the self-reflection necessary for change. That racism inherent in their party then leads them to nominate Trump which everyone else sees as a racist bag of ****, whereupon they go "racism, what racism?". That in turn completely destroys any credibility republicans have with non-whites and so democrats win those demographics by landslide percentages.

Now I'm willing to bet republicans will now chime in in reply where they either a) Try to paint democrats as the "real" racists or b) Completely deny racism has ever existed in their party.

[Bearygood]

Slavery was only bad for some who were mistreated by their owners.

Some who had owners who treated them well even were ok being slaves

No joke

[woonieq]

This is how you do it: You leave your own country / continent. Seize a new continent like locust and murder all the natives. Then you force black people against their will into your country and enslave them. At the same time have Chinese immigrants build a railroad for you and also treat them like shit. Then get Mexicans in for cheap labour. And in the end complain about fucking immigrants and how they all should be shot (including their families) for anything criminal they are accused of.

Hey..what's the problem? It was four hundred years ago we did that to the natives and slavery ended a hundred years ago. So we can pick and chose today.

Everyone always forgets the Irish.

[Draco-Onis]

So they should cater to hispanics by ignoring immigration laws?

That's not what I said at all, the Hispanic vote was actually trending towards republicans around the 30 - 35%. It would not have taken a lot for republicans to dominate this demographic, Donald Trump has gone out of his way to send those numbers in the opposite direction.