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    Quote Originally Posted by Leftywrong View Post
    Every opinion against the left wing is xenophobic and racist.

    To say the left wing correctly label things is hilarious.

    No, just no.
    Calling someone or something what it is is a basic tenet of language. Perhaps you're not clear on that. Trump is a civil fraudster, a know wife-cheater, racist, ignorant of most international issues - so much more to add. This isn't name calling - this is proper labeling of a Presidential nominee. I feel bad that you don't understand something so basic as this and have instead fallen for the messages of O'Reilly and Rush and the rest of the obfuscaters.

    I mean, have you ever heard even one detailed policy speech by Trump outlining a detailed plan on ANY position he holds? He's a blowhard. No depth whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahovv View Post
    Wrong. Stop spreading misinformation.

    "Now, if Russia or China or any other country has those emails, I mean, to be honest with you, I’d love to see them.”

    The above quote is what Trump said which has been exaggerated into "Trump hopes Russia will hack blah blah blah." As in, if the information had already been retrieved, he hoped it would be leaked (because it is indeed something worth leaking, equally noble as wikileaks leaking the DNC information).

    If you're opposed to those deleted e-mails being leaked, I'm sure you thought it was so horrible when the DNC e-mails got leaked also? I mean, it's so bad to expose corruption in our politics, right?
    "Russia, if you're listening," he said at a news conference in Florida on Wednesday, "I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing." It was a reference to emails reportedly deleted from Hillary Clinton's server." is the actual comment he's referring to

    and just follow up to that
    Fmr. CIA Director Leon Panetta on Trump call for Russia HRC hacking: "That’s beyond the pale," unfit to be President

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    He's a Trumper - logic, reasoning and facts have nothing to do with his opinions.

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    It's not name calling - it's proper labeling of behavior. How do you live with yourself trying to obfuscate the issues?
    What exactly is a "Trumper?" Considering I'm probably not voting for Trump, although at this point it seems appealing just to piss people like you off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahovv View Post
    I wonder if you realize how insane you are?

    I corrected a distorted quote, and you jump to the conclusion that I'm some blind Trump supporter who "excuses hatred and racism" and watch Fox News. Seriously, do you not realize how retarded that is?

    You are right about one thing. I despise Hillary Clinton. But not because some news organization told me to. Hillary Clinton is analogous to a new sheriff running for office who promises to clean up crime, while taking money from the criminals. Clinton takes big bank/healthcare money while promising to combat them. She's as corrupt as it gets, and when her flip-flopping gets pointed out on national TV by Anderson Cooper, she will claim she never actually changed her positions. She is a career liar.

    Sanders would have been a far more honorable candidate. Although, I wouldn't have voted for him since my views are closer to libertarian or Green Party.
    It's possible I responded to you when I thought you were the other guy.

    Your points are very valid - and I think the best critics of Hillary can do. She has certainly flip-flopped on a number of issues, many of which were politically expedient. However, she is an accomplished woman, with great success and insurmountable experience (perhaps the most qualified candidate for President we've ever seen). Trump doesn't hold a candle to any one of her many qualities and qualifications.

    Hate her if you want - but she's the best choice by far. Trump is a train wreck that's already in progress and now we're just waiting to see how much damage he could cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stormspellz View Post
    Fmr. CIA Director Leon Panetta on Trump call for Russia HRC hacking: "That’s beyond the pale," unfit to be President
    If you're looking for a quote as evidence against interest or from a non-partisan policy perspective, the current director of the FBI didn't exactly have glowing things to say about Hillary Clinton. And of course Panetta is a former Democratic member of Congress.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahovv View Post
    What exactly is a "Trumper?" Considering I'm probably not voting for Trump, although at this point it seems appealing just to piss people like you off.
    Lol, I'll pass on this one - but very funny. See my post above answering you in a little better detail (at least I hope).

    A Trumper is what people are calling backers of Trump who haven't bothered to learn anything about Trump and what he really stands for. Because once you start thinking for yourself and seeing how awful a human being he really is (and I'm happy to list some of the plethora of highlights his awful life has generated) you realize voting for him is like throwing the United States directly into the toilet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    It's possible I responded to you when I thought you were the other guy.

    Your points are very valid - and I think the best critics of Hillary can do. She has certainly flip-flopped on a number of issues, many of which were politically expedient. However, she is an accomplished woman, with great success and insurmountable experience (perhaps the most qualified candidate for President we've ever seen). Trump doesn't hold a candle to any one of her many qualities and qualifications.

    Hate her if you want - but she's the best choice by far. Trump is a train wreck that's already in progress and now we're just waiting to see how much damage he could cause.
    Clinton can only possibly be considered the best choice if you're ruling out third party candidates.

    And, if you aren't considering third party candidates, you are part of the problem in politics. We will always be settling for the lesser evil if we don't begin voting 3rd party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahovv View Post
    Clinton can only possibly be considered the best choice if you're ruling out third party candidates.

    And, if you aren't considering third party candidates, you are part of the problem in politics. We will always be settling for the lesser evil if we don't begin voting 3rd party.
    There are definitely great third party candidates - no doubt. I should amend my statement by saying Hillary is the best viable candidate - the others, while good, have no chance in our current system of getting elected (which is an entirely different conversation).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leftywrong View Post
    I think you're delusional and brain washed to be perfectly honest. Groomed by your left wing superiors.

    Just my opinion.
    I'm not sure how to respond to a 7 year old. I guess: nice vocabulary. I just wish you knew what the words you were using meant.

    If you don't want to think for yourself, that's fine. But don't be angry with me if I've read more and learned more than you have about the very candidate you back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leftywrong View Post
    The thing is.....

    Left wingers are being proved wrong over everything they say at the moment.

    Britain is doing well after Brexit. Economic collapse didnt happen. Things are looking bright.
    Multiculturalism doesnt work. EU terrorism has gone out of control.
    Left wing authoritarianism attempts to silence everyone who has an opinion.

    The left wing just keeps fucking up at the moment.

    Voting Trump makes alot of sense, to alot of people. And if someone does so, left wingers like yourself just start wih the name calling instead of debating back with facts and logic......

    The irony !!
    Facts and logic...
    The wise wolf who's pride is her wisdom isn't so sharp as drunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahovv View Post
    I corrected a distorted quote, and you jump to the conclusion that I'm some blind Trump supporter who "excuses hatred and racism" and watch Fox News. Seriously, do you not realize how retarded that is?
    Uhm, you tried to correct the quote but you were also wrong. He said, very clearly:

    "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press. Let's see that happen."

    Not that he is asking anyone to hack anyone else. Just pointing out that if you're going to correct someone else, you should probably make sure you're not wrong yourself. Especially when you "correct" someone in such a dickish way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyrt View Post
    The exact quote is: "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing."

    Your move.
    Well he did say also that Hillary should give her emails to FBI since foregin countries have them anyhow. Right now as oppossed to damage control on her personal/political side it beats me why US govt. doesn't want to protect his interested.

    If Russia or any other country or person has Hillary Clinton's 33,000 illegally deleted emails, perhaps they should share them with the FBI!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ahovv View Post
    Holy shit, I need some eye rinse after reading all of that partisan nonsense. It's actually sad that you look at the world through a false dichotomy.
    I really feel sorry for the few sane Americans like you that have to deal with this bullshit.
    Let me be clear that I am European and therefore side with no candidate. But from the 3 year experience that I had living in the US all I can say is that the average American is the most gulible fuck I ve ever met on this planet. And they usually lean to the left because their brain has been mushed enough to make them feel that way because your left uses things like guilt and pseudo progressive bullshit to attract this exact crowd of cucks.
    They hear a politicians blatant lies (like literally your politicians are not even trying to hide their lies like ours do) and conceive them as the absolute truth. Yet when it comes to someone they don't like they twist the things they say so hard that it makes me feel like I m seeing a live version of George Orwels 1984 where people would twist stuff that happened literally the day before enough to make even themselves believe that they did not happen or they happened differently.
    You are a country that has thrived on capitalism and reached the pinnacle of the worlds power and economy in the course of 200 years because you once possesed the critical thinking that not everything is rainbows and butterflies and it will never be. Don't let the left do to you what it has done in Europe. My country most of all has suffered the consequences of 12+ years of "socialism" and now hardcore left regression throwing us into a downward spiral that will most likely last for a few generations to come.

    EDIT: not to mention your media is even worse than ours... they literally cut 3 second parts of speeches to make it looks like someone said something racist/bad etc etc And the worst part is that it's SO GOD DAMN OBVIOUS and people still don't bother to go search the entire thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    He did, and perhaps you should stop spreading misinformation yourself. Trump is every bit as evil as people who use logic and enjoy facts have been saying since the beginning. People like you who excuse hatred and racism and instead hate Hillary because Faux News told you to are pretty much why Trump is still in the running.
    Absolutely zero facts, all your stupid opinions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sahlamuhla View Post
    I really feel sorry for the few sane Americans like you that have to deal with this bullshit.
    The problem is that "this bullshit" is acknowledged by everyone. I deal with it by moving on with my daily life. Others buy guns or whatever.

    Actually what is your point? The "left" here is not left. The "right" here is a weakly disguised form of religious rule. If I'm smarter than my fellow citizens -- my GF accuses me of always being right frequently -- then I don't know what to SAY.

    What I always ASK, however, is what can be done, how can it be fixed? There is no situation that can't be improved. Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaykco View Post
    Absolutely zero facts, all your stupid opinions.
    And yours. /high five.

    Let's all ride the Gish gallop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by belfpala View Post
    The problem is that "this bullshit" is acknowledged by everyone. I deal with it by moving on with my daily life. Others buy guns or whatever.

    Actually what is your point? The "left" here is not left. The "right" here is a weakly disguised form of religious rule. If I'm smarter than my fellow citizens -- my GF accuses me of always being right frequently -- then I don't know what to SAY.

    What I always ASK, however, is what can be done, how can it be fixed? There is no situation that can't be improved. Thoughts?

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    And yours. /high five.
    I know its not left. But it has headed more to the left since the time I remember it and it worries me because trust me you guys are better off without that shit.

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    North Korea gave a glowing endorsement of Trumpy in the US election.

    http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/...8cf8cfca874959

    A column in Tuesday’s DPRK Today, a mouthpiece for the North Korea, piles praise on the presidential hopeful,
    calling him “wise” and the right choice for Americans.

    “It turns out that Trump is not the rough-talking, screwy, ignorant candidate they say he is, but is actually a wise politician
    and a prescient presidential candidate,” said the column, written by a China-based Korean scholar identified as Han Yong Muk.

    It described his Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, as “thickheaded Hillary”

    The Dear Leader Kim Jong Un ..likes Trumpy too

    I must remember not to post stupid stuff when very drunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aussiedude View Post
    North Korea gave a glowing endorsement of Trumpy in the US election.

    http://www.news.com.au/finance/work/...8cf8cfca874959

    A column in Tuesday’s DPRK Today, a mouthpiece for the North Korea, piles praise on the presidential hopeful,
    calling him “wise” and the right choice for Americans.

    “It turns out that Trump is not the rough-talking, screwy, ignorant candidate they say he is, but is actually a wise politician
    and a prescient presidential candidate,” said the column, written by a China-based Korean scholar identified as Han Yong Muk.

    It described his Democratic opponent, Hillary Clinton, as “thickheaded Hillary”

    The Dear Leader Kim Jong Un ..likes Trumpy too

    If the Dear leader and Vladmir Putin love Trump then I am sure he will be a great choice for America.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    It's possible I responded to you when I thought you were the other guy.

    Your points are very valid - and I think the best critics of Hillary can do. She has certainly flip-flopped on a number of issues, many of which were politically expedient. However, she is an accomplished woman, with great success and insurmountable experience (perhaps the most qualified candidate for President we've ever seen). Trump doesn't hold a candle to any one of her many qualities and qualifications.

    Hate her if you want - but she's the best choice by far. Trump is a train wreck that's already in progress and now we're just waiting to see how much damage he could cause.
    She is a dum grill. She isn't going to win. Ill be voting for the trumpster so the dumb bitch ends up in the dumpster

  19. #139
    Quote Originally Posted by tankbug View Post
    Opinions? Wtf are you on about?
    He hasn't done any of those things. Are you fucking high right now?

    You said someone who has done actual actions(stole millions and deals drugs to teens) is better than someone who has only said things you disagree with.

    When is saying things equivalent to doing things?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrak View Post
    liberalism is a right wing idealogy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracos854 View Post
    If the Dear leader and Vladmir Putin love Trump then I am sure he will be a great choice for America.
    Clinton "tried" to make Putin love and respect America and her, she failed, now Russia is running rampant because we cannot communicate/work with him successfully.
    The US has "tried" for decades to bring North Korea into compliance with the rest of the world.

    What the statements by these two bad actors show us is that a President Trump could leave behind a legacy that includes bringing in Russia and North Korea into compliance with the world. Something no President or foreign diplomat, including Clinton, has been successful at in the past.

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