Rank the most powerful playable classes lorewise.

[Wildmoon]

Yeah, problem is, a Knaak pet like Malfurion does not indicate how powerful the average schmuck is.

The thing is using the average as the indicator of how powerful classes are doesn't really work because all those people are average at their own fields. Singling out individuals also does not tell you how powerful each class is because it may be the inherent talent of those individuals. f

It's almost impossible to put all these classes on scale.

[Aquamonkey]

And Illidan had more latent ability for druidism than Malfurion.

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The thing is using the average as the indicator of how powerful classes are doesn't really work because all those people are average at their own fields. Singling out individuals also does not tell you how powerful each class is because it may be the inherent talent of those individuals. f

It's almost impossible to put all these classes on scale.

It does work if both are at a comparatively similar level. Like Illidan vs Arthas. Or if Malfurion and Thrall would ever fight.

Or if somebody changed class and became stronger against people he/she was weak against (Arthas from paladin to death knight).

We could in theory rank the most powerful of each class (Kil'Jaeden, Azshara, Tirion, Taran Zhu, Darion etc.) but that would be cheating cause even if we don't count Sargeras as a warrior, we still have Kil'Jaeden as a warlock. Although Azshara's opinion of Sargeras is: Worthy enough to have sex with, sooo it is debatable where SHE would stand. Maybe above Kil'Jaeden.

[Aquamonkey]

Although Azshara's opinion of Sargeras is: Worthy enough to have sex with, sooo it is debatable where SHE would stand. Maybe above Kil'Jaeden.

Just because there's no mention of Kil'jaeden wanting to have sex with Sargeras doesn't make her more powerful than KJ...

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Mages, Paladins, Priests, Shaman, Warlocks and Druids - all magic classes are more or less on the same page.

Non magic classes are far far below - they are just like grunts - warriors, rogues, hunters, DK etc

On normal scale more or less true what u says about casters and melees, however we compared them to each other, and melee champs mostly won the day, especially the DK's in countering the casters.

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Just because there's no mention of Kil'jaeden wanting to have sex with Sargeras doesn't make her more powerful than KJ...

Pretty sure there are fan fiction like this somewhere on the internet.

But jokes aside, QA isn't the least bit intimidated by the planet cleaving Titan. And that was before she was transformed into the naga she is now. Sure that might be hubris, but the only time we fight her we can't even touch her and she just gets bored and leaves.

[Aquamonkey]

But jokes aside, QA isn't the least bit intimidated by the planet cleaving Titan. And that was before she was transformed into the naga she is now. Sure that might be hubris, but the only time we fight her we can't even touch her and she just gets bored and leaves.

The WotA trilogy specifically says KJ/Arch and Sargeras are more powerful than Azshara. She's more powerful than Mannoroth.

[DemonHunter18]

Azshara is overrated.

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The WotA trilogy specifically says KJ/Arch and Sargeras are more powerful than Azshara. She's more powerful than Mannoroth.

I might be totally wrong but isn't KJ/Arch being more powerful an assumption Mannoroth makes after he realizes that he isn't enough to beat her?
Sure it would be really messed up if she were actually more powerful than Sargeras, but she was practically a demigod even before the Old Gods found her. And it's not like Mannoroth saw her after her transformation. Plus she is confirmed to be able to hide how strong she actually is. Even if she was below KJ and A as a night elf, she is definitely above now.

Of course that doesn't protect average mages from Tauren rogues.

[DemonHunter18]

Azshara is seriously overrated.

[Wildmoon]

It does work if both are at a comparatively similar level. Like Illidan vs Arthas. Or if Malfurion and Thrall would ever fight.

Or if somebody changed class and became stronger against people he/she was weak against (Arthas from paladin to death knight).

We could in theory rank the most powerful of each class (Kil'Jaeden, Azshara, Tirion, Taran Zhu, Darion etc.) but that would be cheating cause even if we don't count Sargeras as a warrior, we still have Kil'Jaeden as a warlock. Although Azshara's opinion of Sargeras is: Worthy enough to have sex with, sooo it is debatable where SHE would stand. Maybe above Kil'Jaeden.

It still doesn't work. If one changed his class and became stronger then it still doesn't really indicate that the class he/she changed into is neccessarily stronger. It could just mean that he is better at one class than another.

If you want to rank individual then it gets even more messy because you could argue that someone like Norgannon was a mage and he was far far more powerful than KJ or Arch. Eonar was very close to a druid too with her kind of magic. Then again the reason they were poweful was because they were titans first and foremost.

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Pretty sure there are fan fiction like this somewhere on the internet.

But jokes aside, QA isn't the least bit intimidated by the planet cleaving Titan. And that was before she was transformed into the naga she is now. Sure that might be hubris, but the only time we fight her we can't even touch her and she just gets bored and leaves.

She didn't even try to kill Malfurion when they met in Darkshore. There was no reason not to if she would easily overwhelm him. We could guess that she was powerful but not overwhelmingly so.

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It still doesn't work. If one changed his class and became stronger then it still doesn't really indicate that the class he/she changed into is neccessarily stronger. It could just mean that he is better at one class than another.

If you want to rank individual then it gets even more messy because you could argue that someone like Norgannon was a mage and he was far far more powerful than KJ or Arch. Eonar was very close to a druid too with her kind of magic. Then again the reason they were poweful was because they were titans first and foremost.

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She didn't even try to kill Malfurion when they met in Darkshore. There was no reason not to if she would easily overwhelm him. We could guess that she was powerful but not overwhelmingly so.

Or maybe just Blizzard can't write anything besides cheesy comic book villains that come at your face, gloat and leave. *cough* Lich King *cough*. Note that Arthas could kill you with one move, but still did the whole, I won't kill you now routine. And it's not like they can kill off Malfurion in a random sidequest.
My headcanon is that what we saw in Darkshore wasn't the real Azshara, but a random Sea Witch posesssed and used as a proxy. Like the Sith Emperor in SWTOR and all his Voices.



Since we are on the subject of ranking individuals, who really is for example the strongest rogue or hunter?

[steelballfc]

In the Arthas vs Illidan fight, the alphas of the Dk and Demon Hunter world, Arthas did win, but admittedly it was a close thing that could have gone either way, with Illidan's mobility giving him a rather nice advantage. So I would say lorewise in a duel the two classes would be fairly matched, all things being equal.

in the book "rise of the lich-king" Arthas was weak and Illidan was playing with him, Illidan was enjoying humiliating Arthas until his ego grow up, arthas took this chance to strike illidan down.

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Why would you rate shaman above druid lol? I don't think I can put these classes on scale though. It depends too much on individuals. We also don't know the limit of each class's potential too.

who would win
Thrall vs Malfiroum

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Lol where did you read that ? As far as i know the only planet that was ever exploded in lore was the work of Ner'Zhul.

in Illidan novel

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And Illidan had more latent ability for druidism than Malfurion.

but Cenarious didn't say this, how is this possible !

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in the book "rise of the lich-king" Arthas was weak and Illidan was playing with him, Illidan was enjoying humiliating Arthas until his ego grow up, arthas took this chance to strike illidan down.

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who would win
Thrall vs Malfiroum

In Legion? Malfurion.

[Wildmoon]

who would win
Thrall vs Malfiroum

Dunno but if you go by feats then Malfurion has a lot more than Thrall. Thrall struggled against Garrosh... If you want to take Thrall using Dragon Soul as him being very powerful then Malfurion also did use Dragon Soul and he performed more advanced spellworks with it than Thrall did.

In a fight, it's not always predictable. Illidan was stronger in raw power than Arthas. He lost because he was stupid. Medivh lost to Khadgar and Lother whose power was much inferior to him. Mannoroth lost to Grom depsite being stronger. Maiev managed to capture Malfurion with traps and good plans.

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Or maybe just Blizzard can't write anything besides cheesy comic book villains that come at your face, gloat and leave. *cough* Lich King *cough*. Note that Arthas could kill you with one move, but still did the whole, I won't kill you now routine. And it's not like they can kill off Malfurion in a random sidequest.
My headcanon is that what we saw in Darkshore wasn't the real Azshara, but a random Sea Witch posesssed and used as a proxy. Like the Sith Emperor in SWTOR and all his Voices.



Since we are on the subject of ranking individuals, who really is for example the strongest rogue or hunter?

Malfurion and Azshara did duel in WC3's account of WotA.

I don't really know who is strongest rogue and hunter. Maybe Garona and Rexxar?

[Deleted]

Mages. Why? Because we can manipulate Time, Matter and Space. A powerful mage would be considered a GOD by normal people.

[Deleted]

Mages. Why? Because we can manipulate Time, Matter and Space. A powerful mage would be considered a GOD by normal people.

As a brewmaster I can manipulate a beer keg in your face before you can even think of casting a fireball. Granted, powerful mages totally are considered gods by normal people (hellow again, Azshara) but same goes for powerful anythings really.

[Bigbazz]

RPG is not canon.

Spoilers but Broxigar is in Legion, so I guess he became canon? Dunno.

[Villager720]

Azshara is seriously overrated.

Check out Azsuna's history.

[DemonHunter18]

Check out Azsuna's history.

checked it out. still overrated.