Old set bonuses and timewalking

[Vakna]

So I heard the old set bonuses got turned off, so is there any point farming them any more for timewalking sets, or just stick with pieces with the most sockets now?

[Keny]

I guess stick with current sets cuz they actually give some form of a bonus...
In any case I think farming old sets Is useless for timewalking now.

[Vakna]

I guess stick with current sets cuz they actually give some form of a bonus...
In any case I think farming old sets Is useless for timewalking now.

Debatable as to whether current sets actually give a bigger bonus than items with multiple sockets. Especially now that every socket in the game became prismatic.

[IntellectuallyChallenged]

Timewalking dungeons are pretty easy anyway. No need for boosts at all. Unless it's just for an ego boost.

[Paarthurnax]

Debatable as to whether current sets actually give a bigger bonus than items with multiple sockets. Especially now that every socket in the game became prismatic.

Yea it's probably a solid 8-10 sockets worth of stats. so 90-100 int/str/agi.

[Dechno]

Yea it's probably a solid 8-10 sockets worth of stats. so 90-100 int/str/agi.

Let's see: Weapon (2H) +3 sockets, chest +3, legs +3, belt +3, helmet +2-3, neck +1-2, shoulders +2, back +1-2, wrists +1-2, gloves +2, ring +1-2 (x2) and possibly trinket sockets depending what you use = More than 20 sockets.

[Deztru]

Let's see: Weapon (2H) +3 sockets, chest +3, legs +3, belt +3, helmet +2-3, neck +1-2, shoulders +2, back +1-2, wrists +1-2, gloves +2, ring +1-2 (x2) and possibly trinket sockets depending what you use = More than 20 sockets.

Still pretty pointless because it's timewalking

[Matt0193]

Timewalking dungeons are pretty easy anyway. No need for boosts at all. Unless it's just for an ego boost.

I enjoyed building a set for it, gave me something to do other than simply "Queue, kill, repeat". Like right now I wish I could still use T16 set for Ret simply so I could get access to EDS, which has since been removed with the patch.

[Frolk]

Blizzard was to fucking lazy to do this: disable not-current sets in current raids and dungeons, and rather just went over em with a mallet and fucked over everyone.

Especially painful now in pre-patch with most specs doing less dmg, id REALLY like my legacy sets to work so the runs would go faster as ppl are doing down to 0.5k dps

[Relapses]

I'm doing more DPS in TW than I was before the patch using current set bonuses and the five or six I did across my toons seemed to go by much smoother. Anecdotal evidence, but I feel like sockets and old set bonuses were a nice perk but their removal is hardly gamebreaking.

In any case, it's possible Blizzard may retroactively activate set old set bonuses for TW in Legion, their removal atm being one of the things they didn't get around to fixing before the patch went live.

[Paarthurnax]

Let's see: Weapon (2H) +3 sockets, chest +3, legs +3, belt +3, helmet +2-3, neck +1-2, shoulders +2, back +1-2, wrists +1-2, gloves +2, ring +1-2 (x2) and possibly trinket sockets depending what you use = More than 20 sockets.

For a full set sure, but we are talking about the different between using old pieces with sockets vs current tier for the active set bonus. In that situation its probably chest/shoulders/gloves/pants so we can keep the helm and its meta gem. That's give or take ~10 sockets.

[cFortyfive]

I enjoyed building a set for it, gave me something to do other than simply "Queue, kill, repeat". Like right now I wish I could still use T16 set for Ret simply so I could get access to EDS, which has since been removed with the patch.

Seemed like the only somewhat enjoyable aspect about them to me as well.

[Daffan]

Seemed like the only somewhat enjoyable aspect about them to me as well.

Me too. It was fun.

[Gemini Soul]

Let's see: Weapon (2H) +3 sockets, chest +3, legs +3, belt +3, helmet +2-3, neck +1-2, shoulders +2, back +1-2, wrists +1-2, gloves +2, ring +1-2 (x2) and possibly trinket sockets depending what you use = More than 20 sockets.

Can't really count weapons, because Artifacts will be BIS for timewalking.

[Daan]

Gear with your best stats and (/or) most sockets.

I hope they'll fix the socket-bug with belt and sha-touched weapon soon.

[Deleted]

Can't really count weapons, because Artifacts will be BIS for timewalking.

Cant be sure about it. Artifacts are full of "increases x by x%" or "x% chance for x to do x". And you know how well those stuff have scaled in tw? classtrinkets and legendary ring as example.

e: Then again stuff like shadowmourne are really strong in TW

[Delaios]

Cant be sure about it. Artifacts are full of "increases x by x%" or "x% chance for x to do x". And you know how well those stuff have scaled in tw? classtrinkets and legendary ring as example.

e: Then again stuff like shadowmourne are really strong in TW

That's assuming the artifact talents get downscaled, which is a pretty big assumption in itself. There are still a handful of traits that are not % based and you'll still get an extra ability from your artifact. I find it hard to believe that 2-3 sockets will be able to beat that ability.

[Amantino]

For us who actually spent time on tw sets, this is a slap in the face. Really, really pointless to nerf sets in timewalking like this. Can't carry a group of idiots anymore like before, solo queuing is like playing russian roulette.

[Deleted]

Well my experience with TW dungeons seems to differ a bit. I just picked the gear with most sockets i had with spec favorable secondaries(fire mage to be more specific) and voila - i was actually doing at least 1-2k more dps on boss fights, but my trash damage remained somewhat the same.
On the other hand my blood DK was feeling a lot like paper tank and a lot of healers complained about it. I guess artifacts will be quite useful in TW(or any other content tbh) since the balancing in nxt expansion revolves around them too.

[Daan]

Artifact traits won't be downscaled themselves in TW, but they will be mostly less effective due to the big downscale of our gear.
Additional skills from the artifact weapon might be nice anyway.