Maiev's crimes and Jarod.

[Wildmoon]

I think you noticed that we are talking about Knaakshit. in this case, he made Maiev going crazy and Mafurion going SSJ, SSJ2 and SSJ3.

Maiev gave the impression of being crazy since WC3.

[DemonHunter18]

Maiev gave the impression of being crazy since WC3.

killing Tyrande is a good riddance. in fact, I can give Knaak +1 because she wanted to kill Malfurion.

[Wildmoon]

killing Tyrande is a good riddance . in fact, I can give Knaak a +1 because she wanted to kill Malfurion.

So basically every character who doesn't agree with Illidan? lol

[Mormolyce]

I hate what that novel did to Maiev. They have my blessing to pull whatever retcons they like.

[Friendlyimmolation]

I think you noticed that we are talking about Knaakshit. in this case, he made Maiev going crazy and Mafurion going SSJ, SSJ2 and SSJ3.

im talking about how she was written to be troubled since Wc3. Sure Knaak is shit but he didnt make maive nuts, she already was.

[DemonHunter18]

So basically every character who doesn't agree with Illidan? lol

nope. Illidan should currently die because of this light crap going on. Malfurion is annoying as hell.

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im talking about how she was written to be troubled since Wc3. Sure Knaak is shit but he didnt make maive nuts, she already was.

hunting Illidan was justified. letting Tyrande die is +1.

[steelballfc]

I do apologize @Venziir was right
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[Enthralled]

Yes, I typed a response because thats how it is playing off, she goes from consumed with duty and vegence and slowly falls into that pit of crazy. Now Blizzard is trying to say she was a good person and was only messed with. Witch basically goes back to Blizzards "Every Alliance character must be all good with no spots"

To be fair though, when you actually play the W3 campaign, she does go from seeming to be a reasonably balanced person doing her duty as a Warden, to batshit insane obsessed crazy by the end. The mere fact that she went after that shadow orb in the Tomb of Sargeras in the first place is extremely out of character for Maiev.

So what I am saying is that like it or not, the backstory for her being lured into obsession and corruption by a demonic artifact has been there all along, and doesn't seem (at least to me) to be an unreasonable character development for Maiev.

[WolfRider]

Okay I have a question.
Except for Demon Hunters' 2nd part questlines (in Vault of the Wardens), is Maïev Shadowsong present during patch 7.0?

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no her role was #shipping_Illidan_Maive
I'm waiting for this ship

[Tackhisis]

Yeah he created her for Day of the Dragon, along side Rhonin, Falstad and Krasus.

It was Vereesa (Windrunner), not Valeera (some non-canon rogue).

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yes they may be existed ships, but when they are going to sail !?

[Venziir]

It was Vereesa (Windrunner), not Valeera (some non-canon rogue).

Ah yes, of course. That's who I meant, no idea why I type Valeera. That said; she is canon though, she was even in Wotlk and will be in Legion too. Not a great character though.

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Okay I have a question.
Except for Demon Hunters' 2nd part questlines (in Vault of the Wardens), is Maïev Shadowsong present during patch 7.0?

Yes, she's in... Val'sharah I think.

[steelballfc]

Please don't kill my dreams

[Enthralled]

It was Vereesa (Windrunner), not Valeera (some non-canon rogue).

Valeera is canon. She's just invisible except in Hearthstone.

[Saltysquidoon]

So what I am saying is that like it or not, the backstory for her being lured into obsession and corruption by a demonic artifact has been there all along, and doesn't seem (at least to me) to be an unreasonable character development for Maiev.

Sometimes people are allowed to change because of events and people around them and that's ok, not everything has to be lollegion/oldgods.

[Deleted]

Please don't kill my dreams

[steelballfc]

Valeera is canon. She's just invisible except in Hearthstone.

You could see her in attack on understand city

[Enthralled]

Sometimes people are allowed to change because of events and people around them and that's ok, not everything has to be lollegion/oldgods.

I have not implied otherwise in any way. I only said that if Blizzard chooses to blame her problems on the shadow orb, it's not unreasonable.

[Saltysquidoon]

I have not implied otherwise in any way. I only said that if Blizzard chooses to blame her problems on the shadow orb, it's not unreasonable.

I didn't say you did. The point of my post is blizzard saying anytime anyone does anything naughty it was because demons/oldgods did it is lazy story telling and a way to get around inconsistent characterisation brought about by said lazy story telling.
That said if you want to push the issue I put it to you that Maiev slowly being pushed to a more and more extreme position due to her increasing desperation and bitterness over her losses which culminates in her ironic betrayal of the night elves and position as a hardline regressive faction that resents the current leadership (being minorly justified by its oft hypocritical autocratic nature).
Is a vastly more interesting position then living space cancer made her do the bad mmk, accept her as a quest giver/'raid tier faction' leader next expac because we needed another old name.