No Man's Sky

[Aktavite]

No they can't. They could sue the place that they got the copy from because it isn't supposed to be sold or distributed until X date. The end user though they can't sue unless they did something illegal to play the game early. The videos should even still be up as there is no reason to take them down as copyright doesn't really have a street date. However SEIA made a copyright claim on YouTube and got them removed.

Apparently someone also put a copy up on ebay that sold for $2000.

Yeah, they could take him to town if they wanted too.

[rhorle]

Yeah, they could take him to town if they wanted too.

The game is fully playable because it isn't a server based game. The person hasn't broke any laws by popping the disc in and playing it. There really are no laws about this stuff anyways. The way it is controlled is the retailer and distributor sign contracts stating they won't sell the game prior to X date. If they do they will face fines. A customer that plays the game prior to release date won't face any trouble unless they work for one of the companies that sells or distributes the game.

They could argue posting "copyrighted" information in any lawsuit but that wouldn't likely hold any ground given the trial would go past release date and HG would have to continue to enforce it prior to release in order to continue a case against the person.

[Slaughty8]

The game is fully playable because it isn't a server based game. The person hasn't broke any laws by popping the disc in and playing it. There really are no laws about this stuff anyways. The way it is controlled is the retailer and distributor sign contracts stating they won't sell the game prior to X date. If they do they will face fines. A customer that plays the game prior to release date won't face any trouble unless they work for one of the companies that sells or distributes the game.

They could argue posting "copyrighted" information in any lawsuit but that wouldn't likely hold any ground given the trial would go past release date and HG would have to continue to enforce it prior to release in order to continue a case against the person.

You probably never lived in the Eastern Europe/Russia In our area the law always finds a way, if the right person wants somebody to be sued, you just need the money, the right people and there you go, it's really flawed. Even in my country - Poland - it happends all the time. There is always a way, even not related to the real reason :P The same goes other way - many bad things go unpunished. It just really depends on who you are, who you know and how much money you have.
We are used to say: "Give me a man, and the article will be found".

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But nevertheless, I think the responsive for the leaked gameplays are:
- Sony themselves, delivering the game soo early to shops
- shop which delivered the game

[Kaleredar]

Why are people so down about this game? From what I've seen it looks very fun. Am I missing something?

I'm sure it'd be fun for a while, but the issue that comes to my mind about this is that it's essentially spore without the ability to make anything.

Basically, everything you see is spat out by a computer program, and while things like animals and plants and so forth might start out looking new and unique, you'll eventually start to see the same basic type of creature and plant, and eventually planet, repeated over and over again.

It's like exploring in Minecraft (or in spore, for that matter.) Am I really going to find something I've just legitimately never seen before? And if I do, how unique is it? Is it just a slightly different variation of a six-legged fishdog that I've seen 20 other times on 20 other planets? Is an eight-legged fishdog that much different than a six-legged one?

And then there's the procedural generation aspect. Eventually, you start to see that no soul went into making this six-legged fishdog beyond the initial individual components that the artists made. A computer code tossed it around for a bit and out tumbled an animal. Same with landscapes. The first time you see some grand, sweeping arches that would be impossible on earth you might be impressed, but by the fourth or fifth time you see it on another planet... you start to realize the curves seem to curve in this one particular direction, and that certain constants define the parameters of what make everything up.

That's when procedural generation's soullessness starts to rear its ugly head. You see it in Minecraft, you could see it in Spore (and that had a great deal of user-made content of varying qualities) and you'll likely be able to see it in this after a time.

[Slaughty8]

(...)

And then there's the procedural generation aspect. Eventually, you start to see that no soul went into making this six-legged fishdog beyond the initial individual components that the artists made. A computer code tossed it around for a bit and out tumbled an animal. Same with landscapes. (...)

That's when procedural generation's soullessness starts to rear its ugly head. (...)

This is another reason why I don't feel this game at all. I am one of these people who can't enjoy and feel the soulless randomly generated design.

[rhorle]

This is another reason why I don't feel this game at all. I am one of these people who can't enjoy and feel the soulless randomly generated design.

And yet you actively read and post in a thread about the game. That shows that while you say you don't like it you have a compulsion about it.

[Shaede]

I'm sure it'd be fun for a while, but the issue that comes to my mind about this is that it's essentially spore without the ability to make anything.

Basically, everything you see is spat out by a computer program, and while things like animals and plants and so forth might start out looking new and unique, you'll eventually start to see the same basic type of creature and plant, and eventually planet, repeated over and over again.

It's like exploring in Minecraft (or in spore, for that matter.) Am I really going to find something I've just legitimately never seen before? And if I do, how unique is it? Is it just a slightly different variation of a six-legged fishdog that I've seen 20 other times on 20 other planets? Is an eight-legged fishdog that much different than a six-legged one?

And then there's the procedural generation aspect. Eventually, you start to see that no soul went into making this six-legged fishdog beyond the initial individual components that the artists made. A computer code tossed it around for a bit and out tumbled an animal. Same with landscapes. The first time you see some grand, sweeping arches that would be impossible on earth you might be impressed, but by the fourth or fifth time you see it on another planet... you start to realize the curves seem to curve in this one particular direction, and that certain constants define the parameters of what make everything up.

That's when procedural generation's soullessness starts to rear its ugly head. You see it in Minecraft, you could see it in Spore (and that had a great deal of user-made content of varying qualities) and you'll likely be able to see it in this after a time.

Thanks for the elaborate response. I haven't played spore but I have played Minecraft. I certainly hope that it's got story to it. What I'm gathering from your post without knowing too much about the game is that the big concern is that this is just going to be a series of randomly generated planets that have no story to them and eventually will just become a mash up of things we have already seen on other planets in some fashion or another.

What I've been led to believe is that it's a game with free travel where we explore and find different planets that have their own history and story and all..and I was hoping that we get our own story as well. Am I completely off? Just a heads up I have not been watching gameplay or anything to keep from spoiling so excuse me if this is commonly known stuff.

[Slaughty8]

What I've been led to believe is that it's a game with free travel where we explore and find different planets that have their own history and story and all..and I was hoping that we get our own story as well. Am I completely off? Just a heads up I have not been watching gameplay or anything to keep from spoiling so excuse me if this is commonly known stuff.

Unfortunatelly there is no story. Also the intelligent life will be a very rare discovery. According to the No Man's Sky wiki:
No Man's Sky: Species
Species are procedurally generated
And according to here:
No Man's Sky: Inhabited Planets
Most planets wont have any life forms on them and from those that do, it will be primitive life forms.
Sentient life forms will be rare and considered a good discovery.

Like I said, many people unfortunatelly assume too much because of the Hello Games's makerting of not showing enough + hiding things or barelly mentioning them, which creates alot of understatements so people know almost nothing and begin to assume x, y, z and this makes them buy the game out of curiosity and false hopes.
I feel sad for anyone who will be severely disappointed because of the overpriced, badly advetrised product. 20$ is max I would pay for this.

[Kaleredar]

Thanks for the elaborate response. I haven't played spore but I have played Minecraft. I certainly hope that it's got story to it. What I'm gathering from your post without knowing too much about the game is that the big concern is that this is just going to be a series of randomly generated planets that have no story to them and eventually will just become a mash up of things we have already seen on other planets in some fashion or another.

What I've been led to believe is that it's a game with free travel where we explore and find different planets that have their own history and story and all..and I was hoping that we get our own story as well. Am I completely off? Just a heads up I have not been watching gameplay or anything to keep from spoiling so excuse me if this is commonly known stuff.

As far as I'm aware, everything is proceduraly generated.


So basically, it's minecraft with better graphics in space. But without the ability to make anything. It sounds like you can build things, but I'm not sure how much customization there is in it.

[Deleted]

Shame I missed the clips before they got taken down, they'd probably be something that would confirm either way if I wanted the game or not.
I understand them not wanting to release too much about the game, but I still haven't seen sod all enough to decide if I would be tempted.

[Elim Garak]

there's one video on youtube still

[Slaughty8]

Shame I missed the clips before they got taken down, they'd probably be something that would confirm either way if I wanted the game or not.
I understand them not wanting to release too much about the game, but I still haven't seen sod all enough to decide if I would be tempted.

You can watch them here on this alternative reddit (people are moving there after mass bans on first reddit): https://www.reddit.com/r/no_mans_sky/ people constantly repost gameplays, there are many mirrors, enjoy

[carnifex2005]

Someone has uploaded the HD 26 minute video on PornHub. It's titled "NO MAN'S SKY FIRST PLANET EXPLORATION". Looks pretty good and what I was expecting.

[Remilia]

Someone has uploaded the HD 26 minute video on PornHub.

I must admit, that's very clever.
I kind of want to watch some of the videos but at the same time I don't want to spoil anything.

[Tech614]

I must admit, that's very clever.

Not really, DMCA claims are about as fast on pornhub as they are on youtube. It likely won't even last as long as it did on dailymotion.

[draykorinee]

Clever to put it on pornhub, its just awkward to watch it with those thumbnails to the right of the screen.

[kaamila]

Clever to put it on pornhub, its just awkward to watch it with those thumbnails to the right of the screen.

one stop shop bro.

[Frozenbeef]

9th of August, the same day blizzard releases demon hunters... dammit >.<

[Morae]

9th of August, the same day blizzard releases demon hunters... dammit >.<

Personally I'm going to play NMS.

That or I split my time between playing DH in wow and NMS.

At any rate, it is not like someone is going to explore all those planets in NMS before you and take all the resources.

[quras]

I wonder if they can sue him for that, should be 100% possible. I would never do what he does right now.

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Even better...devs suddenly care about not watching spoilers...this tweet: https://twitter.com/nomanssky/status/759111898675679232 sounds like they panicked that people will watch the gameplay and "spoil" themselves....which means "oh damn, they will find out the game is shit! please don't watch the gameplays! you will know the truth!".

I do find something funny from reddit, that if you watch one or two planets the game is spoiled for you. The other 18 bazillion planets mean nothing after being spoiled seeing the first one or two.

Seems they are indeed hiding a bit of something. Maybe how repetitious it could be. Some is fine. Too much and it isnt good.