Pope Francis slams poland for not taking refugees

[Fruujik]

Doesn't really happen when the refugees tend to commit less violent crimes than the native population.

The same lying police that vehemently denied anything wrong happened during the New Years Eve in Cologne.

Excuse me if I don't believe a single fucking word of what they say.

And even it is true - how can anyone justify bringing in people among whom are criminals which in turn increases the crime rate by the virtue of basic arithmetics?

[Azgraal]

Describing innocent kids, women and old people who are running away from war as ''terrorists''. Wow OP, what kind of sick fascist douchebag you are?

Sucks, but when it has been proven that terrorists with intentions to attack us have been hiding among real refugees one can't help but be distrustful of them all. Us before them.

On the same note, how many refugees has the Vatican taken in behind their big walls?

[Fruujik]

Because you shouldn't use basic additions to evaluate these things, you should use ratios.

X+Y is XY.

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He is a religious leader, and a sovereign king. Playing politics is a major role for his position.

Go ahead, play your politics. But keep your religious message out of it, especially if you use it - as he did - as a club against country with fairly reasonable policies.

[unbound]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rrors-war.html

Pontiff urged Poland's leaders to 'overcome fear' and welcome migrants
Said opening doors to people requires 'great wisdom and compassion'
Fears run deep in Catholic nation that refugees could endanger security
The Pope chastised right-wing government for refusing to share burden


Pope Francis has urged Poland's leaders to 'overcome fear' and welcome desperate migrants fleeing conflict and hardship.
In his first speech in the city of Krakow, at the start of his five-day visit to the country, the Pontiff said opening doors to migrants requires 'great wisdom and compassion'.
Francis chastised the right-wing Law and Justice government for refusing to share the burden during Europe's worst refugee crisis since World War II.

Fears run deep in the strongly Catholic nation that Muslim refugees could endanger its security and erode its Christian traditions.
But the Pope, noting that many Poles have emigrated, spoke of the need to understand the reasons that caused migrants to leave.
He said: 'We must not be afraid to say the truth, the world is at war because it has lost peace.



The world is at war and he wants poland to take the people who started it. What a joke.

Sigh. Study after study after study has clearly demonstrated that immigrant are, on balance, less likely to commit any crimes compared to the natural born citizens. This is not a matter of opinion...it is a matter of fact.

Heck, take a step back from the fear-mongering news sites you keep reading and start to think. Yes, actually think about what is going on. Remember the terrorist attacks in the past year or two. Nearly all of them were done by citizens.

The Paris attacks were by French and Belgium nationals. The Brussels attacks were by Belgium nationals. The Nice attacks were by a Tunisian national who had been living in France since 2005 (i.e. not an immigrant). The Munich shootings were by a dual Iranian German citizen (i.e. not an immigrant). The Saint Etienne du Rouvray killings were by a French national and an Algerian born person living in France who was trying to go to Syria (i.e. not an immigrant...in fact trying to go the other way).

So, for everyone trying to tie immigration to all of this, please start thinking about what is actually going on...not what you want to believe is going on.

[Fruujik]

On the same note, how many refugees has the Vatican taken in behind their big walls?

4-6 but none live, as for as I know, in the actual Vatican City. They were given housing somewhere else in Rome.

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The Paris attacks were by French and Belgium nationals. The Brussels attacks were by Belgium nationals. The Nice attacks were by a Tunisian national who had been living in France since 2005 (i.e. not an immigrant). The Munich shootings were by a dual Iranian German citizen (i.e. not an immigrant). The Saint Etienne du Rouvray killings were by a French national and an Algerian born person living in France who was trying to go to Syria (i.e. not an immigrant...in fact trying to go the other way).

And guess one time in which cultural and religious space they lived in. And guess one time where from are these immigrants - at least you have the honesty to not calling them refugees - coming from.

Until Islam unfucks its own shit, I say we keep them out. And stop Saudis and other Gulf states from funding their mosques which are nothing but a thinly veiled export market for their Wahhabism/degenerate stands of Islam.

[Cizr]

Sigh. Study after study after study has clearly demonstrated that immigrant are, on balance, less likely to commit any crimes compared to the natural born citizens. This is not a matter of opinion...it is a matter of fact.

Heck, take a step back from the fear-mongering news sites you keep reading and start to think. Yes, actually think about what is going on. Remember the terrorist attacks in the past year or two. Nearly all of them were done by citizens.

The Paris attacks were by French and Belgium nationals. The Brussels attacks were by Belgium nationals. The Nice attacks were by a Tunisian national who had been living in France since 2005 (i.e. not an immigrant). The Munich shootings were by a dual Iranian German citizen (i.e. not an immigrant). The Saint Etienne du Rouvray killings were by a French national and an Algerian born person living in France who was trying to go to Syria (i.e. not an immigrant...in fact trying to go the other way).

So, for everyone trying to tie immigration to all of this, please start thinking about what is actually going on...not what you want to believe is going on.

All these have one thing in common: Islam.
Clearly Islam is the issue here

[Sama-81]

Because you shouldn't use basic additions to evaluate these things, you should use ratios.

Not sure about Germany, but here that is literally impossible. Crimes are usually not reported when they are committed in refugee centres, for example, not unless it's very serious crimes indeed, and the police obfuscate crime statistics involving refugees on purpose to avoid scrutiny. Ie, being able to assess crime rates and similar. It sounds a bit like a conspiracy theory, and if it wasn't for the fact that the police itself actually acknowledged the veracity of the claims, it might indeed have been hard to believe. I do understand them, however, because it turns out that the detention centres for refugees are generally the number one destination for police patrols, in the areas that have them, by a mile and a half. So much so that their other work suffers due to it.

[Rooflesstoofless]

How many refugees are now living in the Vatican?

[kamuimac]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rrors-war.html

Pontiff urged Poland's leaders to 'overcome fear' and welcome migrants
Said opening doors to people requires 'great wisdom and compassion'
Fears run deep in Catholic nation that refugees could endanger security
The Pope chastised right-wing government for refusing to share burden


Pope Francis has urged Poland's leaders to 'overcome fear' and welcome desperate migrants fleeing conflict and hardship.
In his first speech in the city of Krakow, at the start of his five-day visit to the country, the Pontiff said opening doors to migrants requires 'great wisdom and compassion'.
Francis chastised the right-wing Law and Justice government for refusing to share the burden during Europe's worst refugee crisis since World War II.

Fears run deep in the strongly Catholic nation that Muslim refugees could endanger its security and erode its Christian traditions.
But the Pope, noting that many Poles have emigrated, spoke of the need to understand the reasons that caused migrants to leave.
He said: 'We must not be afraid to say the truth, the world is at war because it has lost peace.



The world is at war and he wants poland to take the people who started it. What a joke.

f... it - if france and germany want to invite rapists and terrorists into their terirtory its their chocie but Poland shouldnt take even a single muslim "refugee" who posseses even a single threat of being criminal in - we dont want terrorists here. they shoudl have stayed at home and defend it like we did multiple times for last coupel of hundreds of years defending it time after time sometimes loosing freedom but never losoing national identity .

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The same lying police that vehemently denied anything wrong happened during the New Years Eve in Cologne.

Excuse me if I don't believe a single fucking word of what they say.

And even it is true - how can anyone justify bringing in people among whom are criminals which in turn increases the crime rate by the virtue of basic arithmetics?

Of course. Lying police, evil government all the stndard stuff.

[Macaquerie]

Ironically, countries like Poland and Hungary have a very reasonable argument to deploy against the refugee crisis - none of the migrants actually want to go to any of the Eastern countries but are being forcibly settled there because Germany and France don't want them in their backyard despite their supposedly welcoming rhetoric. Of course, something like that will NEVER do for these countries, and it's all POLSKA STRONK GLORIOUS WINGED HUSSAR NIPPON STEEL DRIVING BACK THE MOOOOSLIM HORDES WHITE POWER!!!!!!!

[Fruujik]

Of course. Lying police, evil government all the stndard stuff.

They lied. They denied. It`s a fact.

[Sama-81]

Of course. Lying police, evil government all the stndard stuff.

Well, again, here, they aren't lying - but they obfuscate and refuse to divulge any information what-so-ever to massmedia, in regards to number of crimes, resources used, etc etc, if refugees are involved. Which they have freely admitted to (well, after leaks forced them to, more or less), so it's not in any way or form a contentious statement, nor a fringe theory. It's literally the official police stance on the matter. They have a special code for such crimes, which are now known, that brings with it a state of complete secrecy that would not otherwise be there.

[Noradin]

How many immigrants is the Vatican City taking in?

All of them are immigrants.

[sarahtasher]

Hey dudes that keep screaming that is a new thing that the Pope ''meddle in state affairs'', what means, according to you, the expression ''going to Canossa'' ?

[ParanoiD84]

Meanwhile countrys like saudi arabia takes none even though they share the same culture and religion and having tons and tons of places to put them. Nah they just continue to finance mosques all over europe and other places spreading their precious wahhabism.

[Independent voter]

The Pope carries a lot of weight in the US since we have a lot of Christians. Many of our Christians aren't Catholic but if the old geezer says something and you're a follower of Jesus you have to at least consider his words.

We can't take as many refugees as we'd like since we are a huge target for terrorism, more so than other nations Germany and Poland included.

What the hell Poland, take a 1,000 and see if that works out.

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They lied. They denied. It`s a fact.

No they didn't.

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Well, again, here, they aren't lying - but they obfuscate and refuse to divulge any information what-so-ever to massmedia, in regards to number of crimes, resources used, etc etc, if refugees are involved. Which they have freely admitted to (well, after leaks forced them to, more or less), so it's not in any way or form a contentious statement, nor a fringe theory. It's literally the official police stance on the matter. They have a special code for such crimes, which are now known, that brings with it a state of complete secrecy that would not otherwise be there.

Which is pretty normal routine when dealing with particularly delicate situations like this.

[Fruujik]

Hey dudes that keep screaming that is a new thing that the Pope ''meddle in state affairs'', what means, according to you, the expression ''going to Canossa'' ?

How the hell is that relevant to what's happening in... fuck, I hate to use this term... current year !?

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No they didn't.

Which is pretty normal routine when dealing with particularly delicate situations like this.

They did. Fuck sakes, head of the police was sacked exactly because of it.

Oh yes, lying and hiding THE TRUTH from the public by an institution that swears to protect it is entirely ''normal''.

[sarahtasher]

And for people that show sudden concern for Polish policemen and priests, dumb question : what is for you the signification of the word Katyn ? (And not ''Khatyn''...Soviet Union was never very subtle...)

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How the hell is that relevant to what's happening in... fuck, I hate to use this term... current year !?

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They did.

Oh yes, lying and hiding THE TRUTH from the public by an institution that swears to protect it is entirely ''normal''.

And of course, if they don't report that there ''fifty billions rapes by Muslim', it's because they lie.