The Great Wall of Stupidity

[Boreaz]

You and your annoying cheeriness... can't you be annoyed at anything? *grumbles*

Ask Her/Him how they feel about the UK leaving the EU and you'll see the annoyance you're looking for.

OT: Looks mildly interesting.

[kail]

If it were trying to be historically accurate, then shitting on their cast decision has some merit.

But this is more of fantasy, so anything goes IMO. Movie looks even more cringe worthy than 300.

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On point, I think the backlash here is less directed at this movie and more a result of Tom Cruise starring in "The Last Samurai".

Why the hell is that getting backlash? The movie does not portray Cruise as Japanese, he's an American who was taken as POW.

[announced]

It does look pretty silly having one white guy with the rest of the cast Asian..

Pedro Pascal isnt asian, neither is Willem Dafoe. the rest could pass as Asian i guess.

if it has sci-fi and monsters and stuff then i dont see whats so far fetched about a white soldier in China.

[THE Bigzoman]

Translation : "I think Matt Damon's hot."

On point, I think the backlash here is less directed at this movie and more a result of Tom Cruise starring in "The Last Samurai".

Tom Cruise's character was based on a true story.

He was based on some Frenchie that was sent to Japan by Napolean.

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Bestest casting since

[lonely zergling]

No western mercenaries allowed in a fictional fantasy chinese wall movie.

[Post]

Tbh, I do think he looks really out of place in it.

I agree with this. I wonder if they'll explain why he's in there. The short trailer gave me a pretty bad impression which is unfortunate because Pedro Pascal is in there and I loved him in Game of Thrones and Narcos.

[Khaza-R]

Movie fans will watch a movie because it's good and well made. Not because it's a proper Aryan movie with white dudes in it.

If this were the case then we wouldn't even have lead actors in the first place. People like familiarity and what they know, thus they are more likely to see a film with a big name in it. Specific actors are cast to draw attention to the film, sorry but that is simply a fact.

[Slant]

If this were the case then we wouldn't even have lead actors in the first place. People like familiarity and what they know, thus they are more likely to see a film with a big name in it. Specific actors are cast to draw attention to the film, sorry but that is simply a fact.

And more than one actor has tanked his value through films that he shouldn't have been cast for...

[Joathen]

Reminds me of Tom Cruise in Last Samurai and Reeves in 47 Ronin; both of which weren't bad movies really- but still gave a chuckle about the casting choices.

[Khaza-R]

And more than one actor has tanked his value through films that he shouldn't have been cast for...

Maybe, this whole thing is wildly blown out of proportion likely from people who haven't bothered to even read about the synopsis of the film.

Matt Damon playing a foreign-born mercenary in a sci-fi/fantasy film about China is hardly career destroying.

[Darkeon]

Reminds me of Tom Cruise in Last Samurai and Reeves in 47 Ronin; both of which weren't bad movies really- but still gave a chuckle about the casting choices.

On the Last Samurai.. why did it give you the chuckles to see an american being cast to play the role of an american that was taken as a POW by the Japanese-Samurai? Sounds to me you didn't watch the movie

[lonely zergling]

Reminds me of Tom Cruise in Last Samurai and Reeves in 47 Ronin; both of which weren't bad movies really- but still gave a chuckle about the casting choices.

Tom Cruise in the last samurai didnt play a japanese he played a american dude.

[Belize]

I don't.

I've never managed to sit through an Asian porno for longer than ten seconds. They just seem awkward as shit unless they're Americanized.

Let's be honest here, you can't sit through Asian porno for more that 10 seconds, because you're already done by then.

[THE Bigzoman]

Let's be honest here, you can't sit through Asian porno for more that 10 seconds, because you're already done by then.

Not after the first time I don't.

[XangXu]

I enjoyed the Last Samurai with Tom Cruise.

Maybe we should all stfu and understand that it is a fantasy, born out of some creator's mind, and not as any sort of racist jab.

[Shibito]

reminds me of the people who were like

EMERGERD BLACK STERMTROOPER

Which is accurate as the clone army is used up, and there were belive it or not black empire citizens and stormtroopers after the clones are made of imperial citizens.

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I enjoyed the Last Samurai with Tom Cruise.

Maybe we should all stfu and understand that it is a fantasy, born out of some creator's mind, and not as any sort of racist jab.

The one with Keenu Reeves was good too. 13 ronin or something.

[Daws001]

Now, I've had a crush on Matt Damon since the 90s but his presence and apparent role in the film is off-putting. Given his comment about representation on Project Greenlight, this whole thing doesn't surprise me. Some people just don't get it. Or refuse to.

[Vynny]

I fail to see why you think this matters. At all.

A writer can rationalize anything away. Damon's character will probably be explained as some sort of wandering mercenary brought in because of his skill. A black Johnny Storm can be explained because...you know...black people exist. And the race of that character has nothing to do with his story.

What's the name of the character Damon is playing? Justifying Matt Damon playing that character is as simple as not contradicting that character with information in the film (such as saying that his character is Asian). You're comparing that to justifying Johnny Storm being black simply because black people exist when Johnny Storm has been a white character for decades. Established characters aren't as flexible and open ended as new characters are.

The difference is that the people you're deriding aren't advocating for changing Black Panther from a black person to a white person, but that's exactly what the "SJW's" are advocating for when it comes to established white characters.

You wanna make a movie with a black guy in a Ancient Chinese setting? Fine. You wanna make more Asian super heroes? Fine. You wanna make more female lead characters? Fine again. All that people on my side are saying is that you shouldn't just co opt already established characters. All that we who you're deriding for being fine with this while we're against existing established characters being race/sex changed want is for existing established characters to be respected.

And btw, this is also different from someone taking up the mantle of a hero. So no, I don't agree with the people who spoke out against Sam Wilson becoming Captain America because Sam Wilson is the character while Captain America is a title. So to me there's nothing wrong with a character like let's say Spider Man being another race/sex, but don't just say that he or she is still Peter Parker because they aren't.

[Azadina]

Translation : "I think Matt Damon's hot."

On point, I think the backlash here is less directed at this movie and more a result of Tom Cruise starring in "The Last Samurai".

Well, works for me :P He is really hot, and so is Tom