Black lives don't matter to democrats

[Espe]

So your entire evidence to support your claim of a "coalition of bigots" is a 60+ year old strategy

...that Republicans continue to desperately rely on for the votes they can't outright steal through mass voter disfranchisement of US citizens and gerrymandering efforts.

That's on Republicans, not the people pointing out the facts of the situation.

[Rhaide]

Republicans do a good enough job of that on their own.

Source: Republican Party Platform, 2016

Ah good old mockery and generalizing attacks. I see you're as rabid and juvenile as ever.

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...that Republicans continue to desperately rely on for the votes they can't outright steal through mass voter disfranchisement of US citizens and gerrymandering efforts.

That's on Republicans, not the people pointing out the facts of the situation.

Gerrymandering as a REPUBLICAN strategy? Good one. You're right, democrats NEVER do that. BAHAHAHA.

[Espe]

Both conventions were shitshows

Why are you talking about the convention, I'm talking about the Republican Party Platform, the one that supposedly guides the legislative agendas of Republican representatives. If you read their national platform and don't see anything wrong then there's really no discussion to be had here.

[Dextroden]

Republicans do a good enough job of that on their own.

Source: Republican Party Platform, 2016

This is beautiful. Using that logic, every Democrat supports all the shady shit the leadership has been accused of recently.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Is there a TLDR?

"Black communities are not shining pillars of society filled with affluence and culture, so the Democrats hate black people."

[Gib Lover]

Why are you talking about the convention, I'm talking about the Republican Party Platform, the one that supposedly guides the legislative agendas of Republican representatives. If you read their national platform and don't see anything wrong then there's really no discussion to be had here.

Stop harassing me

[Cthulhu 2020]

The KKK is as dead as any ideology can be, being 'undergound' doesn't disprove his point, it strengthens it. And it's ironic that the same people who preach about how isolationism is terrible are the same people who cry whenever the US intervenes in foreign affairs, militarily or otherwise. We NEED some isolationism right now, let the world go to hell a bit and work on ourselves or we're just going to join them.

And yet another person conflates non-interventionism and demilitarization with isolationism.

[Espe]

Ah good old mockery and generalizing attacks. I see you're as rabid and juvenile as ever.

Ok, stick with ad hom and other weak fallacies, it suits you.

Gerrymandering as a REPUBLICAN strategy?

Of course, when they're not actively disfranchising US citizens. Both things the Republicans have gotten in trouble for recently. But you know all about it because you're not completely ignorant of reality, right?

... right?

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Stop harassing me

There's that victim complex we've all come to expect from conservatives.

[Rhaide]

And yet another person conflates non-interventionism and demilitarization with isolationism.

i·so·la·tion·ism
ˌīsəˈlāSHəˌnizəm/Submit
noun
a policy of remaining apart from the affairs or interests of other groups, especially the political affairs of other countries.

Remaining apart from the affairs...

I know it's hard when a definition disagrees with your agenda, but do try and participate in an intelligent fashion my friend.

[Paranoid Android]

LOL, what im saying is that, historically, Most southern states never quite recovered after the civil war and have been poor for over 100 years. Regardless of leadership, good and bad.

Certain cities on the other hand, like Detroit, have went from being prosperous to being incredibly poor, over the course of a relatively short period of time. This can partially be attributed to circumstance, but I feel largely on poor leadership.

OMFG Tony! You are going to come at with that bullshit. Have you stopped trying?

You know my argument of collapsed manufacturing in cities such as Detroit and Baltimore have weight. We have lost all manufacturing throughout the U.S., that has not been replaced. Remember, why all those white people are pissed?

Detroit started to collapse in the early 1960's. It's manufacturing was obviously tied to the car industry. So tell me how do replace MASSIVE job losses over decades. Its impossible. Again I cannot claim that the Dems are flawless. I know there was corruption in Detroit, even recently in 90's or 2000's?

On top of this when people started leaving Detroit like dominoes. You start losing your tax base.

1) At this point, the city of Detroit owes money to more than 100,000 creditors.

2) Detroit is facing $20 billion in debt and unfunded liabilities. That breaks down to more than $25,000 per resident.

3) Back in 1960, the city of Detroit actually had the highest per-capita income in the entire nation.

4) In 1950, there were about 296,000 manufacturing jobs in Detroit. Today, there are less than 27,000.

5) Between December 2000 and December 2010, 48 percent of the manufacturing jobs in the state of Michigan were lost.

6) There are lots of houses available for sale in Detroit right now for $500 or less.

7) At this point, there are approximately 78,000 abandoned homes in the city.

8) About one-third of Detroit’s 140 square miles is either vacant or derelict.

9) An astounding 47 percent of the residents of the city of Detroit are functionally illiterate.

10) Less than half of the residents of Detroit over the age of 16 are working at this point.

11) If you can believe it, 60 percent of all children in the city of Detroit are living in poverty.

12) Detroit was once the fourth-largest city in the United States, but over the past 60 years the population of Detroit has fallen by 63 percent.

13) The city of Detroit is now very heavily dependent on the tax revenue it pulls in from the casinos in the city. Right now, Detroit is bringing in about 11 million dollars a month in tax revenue from the casinos.

14) There are 70 “Superfund” hazardous waste sites in Detroit.

15) 40 percent of the street lights do not work.

16) Only about a third of the ambulances are running.

17) Some ambulances in the city of Detroit have been used for so long that they have more than 250,000 miles on them.

18) Two-thirds of the parks in the city of Detroit have been permanently closed down since 2008.

19) The size of the police force in Detroit has been cut by about 40 percent over the past decade.

20) When you call the police in Detroit, it takes them an average of 58 minutes to respond.

21) Due to budget cutbacks, most police stations in Detroit are now closed to the public for 16 hours a day.

22) The violent crime rate in Detroit is five times higher than the national average.

23) The murder rate in Detroit is 11 times higher than it is in New York City.

24) Today, police solve less than 10 percent of the crimes that are committed in Detroit.

25) Crime has gotten so bad in Detroit that even the police are telling people to “enter Detroit at your own risk“.

http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/a...king-your-head

[Psilar]

So, you're pretty much right about everything. The modern day Liberal is basically a social justice cultural marxist. The modern day Democratic party is filled with these people, and the basic concept is that if you do not succeed it's someone else's fault. It's slightly more complicated than that but women don't make the same as men...it must be oppression and sexism! If blacks don't make as much as whites its racism! Thus, Democrats have embraced BLM with their entitled ideology.

Now, the crux of the problem is social welfare programs which I believe the evidence points to actually hurting everyone. There's two problems with this. The first and most important problem, is how the welfare programs we use are not "Money in = money out." This goes hand in hand with fiat debt based money which politicians can print at will, and then pay for votes in the form of welfare. This hides the true cost and puts the true burden on future generations.

Now I'm not going to get into a left vs right debate because the real problem is government itself. The government, either side, panders to certain people and certain ideologies. The government by definition is force and coercion. That is what the government is. While we have two sides arguing over whether the glass is half empty or half full, the real question is are you even thirsty.

The free market is the only thing through history that has repeatedly brought prosperity to those that used it. It has also long been the target of wealthy and greedy people who wish to restrain it and control it for their benefit.

Eliminate basically 90% of the government and almost all taxes and America would become prosperous again in a matter of a few years.

There's a few other nonsense posts in here.... For instance White people, low and middle class donate more money to charity than anyone.

The Middle class was destroyed by Wall Street and the Federal Reserve over a long period of time. Neither the Democrats nor Republicans are totally 100% responsible for this. You cannot have honest fair business when you can't tell what the value of your unit of trade is. Speaking of business, the fastest growing and largest increases in standard of living occurred on sound money.

This is a great thread and all, but seriously some of you don't know shit about anything. You should really take a more open minded approach and stop being so dogmatic.

[Gib Lover]

There's that victim complex we've all come to expect from conservatives.

I'm not a conservative, and like I said stop harassing me

[oxymoronic]

whats worse being historically racist or being the currently racist party?

if you think either party is currently racist you have drank the kool-aid. how can group be racist and include blacks, asians, whites, latinos and every other ethnicity/religion? sorry, but you have been fooled.

[Rhaide]

Ok, stick with ad hom and other weak fallacies, it suits you.



Of course, when they're not actively disfranchising US citizens. Both things the Republicans have gotten in trouble for recently. But you know all about it because you're not completely ignorant of reality, right?

... right?

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There's that victim complex we've all come to expect from conservatives.

I don't think you know what an ad hominem attack is if you think *I* started it, you are the Obi-Wan of that school of argument. Also, I really respect the way you generalize an entire party because of the actions of its most cartoonish representatives. Shows a lot of intellect, I can join that bandwagon too.

Look at Hillary, Dems must be a bunch of outright criminals who buy favor and eat their own nowadays. Wow, this is easy, no wonder so many people stoop to this strategy.

[Espe]

I'm not a conservative, and like I said stop harassing me

I was responding to you quoting me. You have a problem with free speech? You hate America or something?

Seriously though, if you can't handle discussion don't broadcast your ignorance on a public forum.

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I really respect the way you generalize an entire party because of the actions of its most cartoonish representatives.

... the Republican Party Platform is the actions of its most "cartoonish" representatives?

Now I've heard it all

[Gib Lover]

I was responding to you quoting me. You have a problem with free speech? You hate America or something?

Seriously though, if you can't handle discussion don't broadcast your ignorance on a public forum.

This isn't a free speech issue.

You have now called me ignorant and said I have a victim complex, stop harassing me. I would really not like to get notifications thinking someone is talking to me only to find out its just another call-out post of harassment.

[Dextroden]

And yet another person conflates non-interventionism and demilitarization with isolationism.

Then, fuck, a lot of people do. I've been called an isolationist for wanting to leave and never go back to the Middle East* and cutting back on the number of active bases and equipment to better cover upgrade, maintenance, recompense for lower ranking soldiers and federal products in general.

*Whenever things aren't burning to the ground.**
**So, indefinitely.

[Cthulhu 2020]

Then, fuck, a lot of people do. I've been called an isolationist for wanting to leave and never go back to the Middle East* and cutting back on the number of active bases and equipment to better cover upgrade, maintenance, recompense for lower ranking soldiers and federal products in general.

*Whenever things aren't burning to the ground.**
**So, indefinitely.

Trump is a pro-militant isolationist though. He wants to isolate our economy and our country, meanwhile bombing and invading the middle east. It gets pretty fucking funny when people try to justify all of his stances.

[Rhaide]

I was responding to you quoting me. You have a problem with free speech? You hate America or something?

Seriously though, if you can't handle discussion don't broadcast your ignorance on a public forum.

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... the Republican Party Platform is the actions of its most "cartoonish" representatives?

Now I've heard it all

The republican party platform is the same as it has been for years, place more power in the hands of the state, look to a strengthening of our core values and traditions in order to improve the state of our country. The pursuit of those goals has been perverted by recent candidates and active politicians, the same as the Dems have.

Blaming an entire group of MILLIONS of people is ignorant, what makes you think that you have any standing to do so? You are posting on a video game forum, don't pretend you have some divine knowledge of who is good and who is bad. There is plenty of blame to go around.

[Cthulhu 2020]

i·so·la·tion·ism
ˌīsəˈlāSHəˌnizəm/Submit
noun
a policy of remaining apart from the affairs or interests of other groups, especially the political affairs of other countries.

Remaining apart from the affairs...

I know it's hard when a definition disagrees with your agenda, but do try and participate in an intelligent fashion my friend.

In the context of politics, a country can still be part of the world stage but be non-interventionist and demilitarized. If you support us getting out of the affairs of other countries and taking our military home, that's non intervention and demilitarization. Completely removing ourselves like North Korea does is isolationist. Yes, there is a difference. WHO KNEW.