Black lives don't matter to democrats

[alexw]

"Fairies of elves"? What are you talking about?

You are trying to say the republican base is blameless as if the rise of these republican representatives is because of some "other" force. I am being sarcastic giving you a suggestion of what caused that.

[Espe]

You are trying to say the republican base is blameless as if the rise of these republican representatives is because of some "other" force. I am being sarcastic giving you a suggestion of what caused that.

Not true scotspublicans!

Just more lazy fallacies. Imagine that.

[Rhaide]

Can't blame you for reaching but you're starting to stink of desperation.



Look who's talking

I'm not the one hurling personal attacks and calling people childish and stupid. You're adopting the tactics of bullies and thugs, then laughing, pretending it didn't occur and blaming others for the same behavior.

You're toxic and do your cause far more harm than good. I'm washing my hands of you. Respond however you want. I'm not coming back here, count it as a victory if you want, the most ignorant people generally consider chasing away contrary viewpoints as a win when they should be bettering themselves by learning from those they disagree with. I'm sad to say you clearly fall into this camp.

Good luck with your angry, hateful life.

[Deleted]

"Fairies of elves"? What are you talking about?

It doesn't take a huge amount of deductive skill to work out it's meant to be or.

[BreakerOfWills]

The republican party platform is the same as it has been for years, place more power in the hands of the state, look to a strengthening of our core values and traditions in order to improve the state of our country. The pursuit of those goals has been perverted by recent candidates and active politicians, the same as the Dems have.

Blaming an entire group of MILLIONS of people is ignorant, what makes you think that you have any standing to do so? You are posting on a video game forum, don't pretend you have some divine knowledge of who is good and who is bad. There is plenty of blame to go around.

The republican party platform is to ignore all evidence and put forth a platform that benefits those who are already wealthy/secure/comfortable at the expense of everyone else.

They dont like big government, but they seek to pass all manner of legislation against minority groups, or introduce useless ordinance that increases the size of government, like mandatory drug testing for welfare recipients, or voter id laws, two solutions to nonexistant problems.

They also like to ignore even their own history, forgetting that the greatest period of wealth growth in America coincided with high taxes on the 1% and government assistance, in the forms like the GI bill, bills that specifically excluded people of colour.

Then they kick out the ladder that got most of their politicians where they are and start gibbering about bootstraps.

As to core values and traditions, theyre horseshit without an objective study to see which actually makes peoples lives better and which are just people being bigoted assholes. State sanctioned homophobia is a tradition, but it serves no purpose at all. If you really want to be about sound fiscal policy and small government then stop supporting candidates who want government in womens uteruses and bigger tax breaks for rich people. Until then, yeah republicans are all idiots/

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[Espe]

I'm washing my hands of you. Respond however you want. I'm not coming back here, count it as a victory if you want

That's fine, throw another little tantrum, take your toys and go home. It doesn't change the fact that Republicans still desperately rely on bigots for the votes they can't outright steal. It doesn't change the Republican national platform. It doesn't stop the mass harm Republicans cause US citizens every day.

Good luck with your angry, hateful life.

Here you're projecting again, my life is just fine but thanks for your concern.

It takes nothing for me to post a few facts here and there when I have the time.

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[RickJamesLich]

That's fine, throw another little tantrum, take your toys and go home. It doesn't change the fact that Republicans still desperately rely on bigots for the votes they can't outright steal. It doesn't change the Republican national platform. It doesn't stop the mass harm Republicans cause US citizens every day.

Come on bro lol, mass harm every day? What's one example?

[Cthulhu 2020]

It's surprising. But then I drive around and see more Trump stickers than Clinton stickers in the parts of the city I go to. And I remember just how powerful slogans, signs and stickers are and part of the driving force for Obama was based on that.

Yeah, Clinton doesn't have a bumper sticker slogan like Trump does, so you'll probably see more Trump bumper sticker slogans that Clinton ones.

[Crissi]

Stop with the sniping and insults, and a reminder that criticizing platforms and positions of parties is ok, but blatant bashing of parties is not.

[Theinquisition]

OMFG Tony! You are going to come at with that bullshit. Have you stopped trying?

You know my argument of collapsed manufacturing in cities such as Detroit and Baltimore have weight. We have lost all manufacturing throughout the U.S., that has not been replaced. Remember, why all those white people are pissed?

Detroit started to collapse in the early 1960's. It's manufacturing was obviously tied to the car industry. So tell me how do replace MASSIVE job losses over decades. Its impossible. Again I cannot claim that the Dems are flawless. I know there was corruption in Detroit, even recently in 90's or 2000's?

On top of this when people started leaving Detroit like dominoes. You start losing your tax base.

simply, you find ways to attract new business. You don't raise taxes and expand benefits and expect that to sustain itself once niche business leaves town.

Let's look at some reasons they went broke, and you can make the decision where much of the blame lies. The problems really were from the top down

Detroit was America's fourth-largest city in 1950, when it had 1.8 million people. In the 2010 census, the city had fewer than 702,000 residents -- an astonishing decline of 60 percent in 60 years. Yes, fewer people means a smaller tax base, but the real problem is the city's government did not shrink along with the population


Detroit has the highest unemployment rate of any major city in the nation.

This is both a cause and an effect of the population situation. Detroit is caught in a vicious cycle. There are few jobs, so people leave to find work elsewhere. Meanwhile, the high cost of the city's government (more on that in a second) drives employers away and makes other less willing to relocate there. That means fewer jobs, which further erodes the tax base and causes more people to leave the city.


Detroit has $18 billion - yes, billion -- in general-obligation debt.

That's a lot more than some of the other high-profile municipal bankruptcy cases in recent years. When Central Falls, R.I., declared bankruptcy in 2011, it had only about $80 million in debt. Jefferson County, Ala., had about $4 billion in debt when it declared Chapter 9 bankruptcy that same year.


A lot of that debt is the result of public employee pensions.

According to Moody's, Detroit has about $3 billion in unfunded pension liabilities. But Orr says those numbers are understated. And it didn't take long for the pension funds to sue the city in an attempt to stop the bankruptcy proceedings.


Why is the city buried in pension costs? Because it has too many public workers.

Though Detroit's population has caved in the past several decades, the public sector just keeps on growing. In 2011, the city had more than 12,000 employees -- more than any other comparably sized city in the country, according to an analysis from The Detroit News. That works out to one public employee for every 55 residents of the city. By comparison, nearby (and financially much better-off) Indianapolis has one city worker for every 115 residents.


In April, Reuters reported that four of the men charged with running the city's broke pension funds were on an all-expenses-paid trip to Hawaii for a conference. The final tab was $22,000.

The heads of the pension funds said the trip was for work, not play. But Orr's spokesman said they shouldn't have gone, anyway.

"It especially doesn't look good when you have city employees, police, firefighters having taken pay cuts," said Bill Nowling, spokesman for Orr. "Middle-class, blue-collar workers, their dream vacation when they retire may be a two-week trip to Hawaii -- they don't associate Hawaii with a place you go to work."


But they are hardly the only corrupt public employees in town.

Former mayor Kwame Kilpatrick, a Democrat, was convicted in March on 24 federal felony offenses, including mail fraud, wire fraud, tax evasion, racketeering and extortion. Prosecutors said he doled out jobs to friends and family, wasted city tax dollars on fraudulent contracts and pocketed more than $1 million in illegal kickbacks.

He previously had pleaded guilty to charges of obstruction of justice in a criminal investigation in 2008.

Basic city services are nonexistent.

In his letter authorizing the city to enter Chapter 9 bankruptcy, Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder, a Republican, pointed to some amazing statistics.

"Only a third of the city's ambulances were in service in the first quarter of 2013. Similarly, approximately 40 percent of the city's street lights were not functioning in that quarter, and the backlog of complaints is more than 3,300 long," he wrote.

Crime is up and the police have no way to respond.

While much of the city's financial trouble is due to the public pension it must pay to retired teachers, city employees, cops and firefighters, that leaves little money on the table to pay actual cops to keep actual people safe in Detroit.

The average response time for an emergency call was 58 minutes, according to Snyder's letter, compared to a national average of 11 minutes.And only 8.7 percent of crimes in the city are solved, compared to a statewide average of 30.5 percent in Michigan.

There are 78,000 abandoned buildings in Detroit.

This is a result of all of the above. Fewer people, fewer jobs, less economic activity and tons of crime have created a city-sized collection of abandoned buildings. We only had room for a few photographs here, but Snyder says there are 78,000 such structures in Detroit.

Snyder described the bankruptcy filing as a low point in the city's long history of decline.

"I think it will also be a foundation of the city's future," he said. "With this decision, we begin to provide a foundation to rebuild and grow Detroit."

They've got a long way to go.

[Mister Cheese]

No because if people weren't in poverty there wouldn't be a reason for poor people to vote for welfare and free shit.

/tinfoil hat

[Gandrake]

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@Endus

lol

Ahhh!! The good OLE racists.

yeah im so racist for pointing out all of these dudes who can't comply with simple police requests when the people mad as fuck about it would have just listened. i'm the racist, when the moms of these largely controversial killings have had evidence given showing their sons resisted officers in a threatening manner were invited to mourn the deaths of their children but you got a bunch of idiots screaming black lives matter at the RNC when the police general asks for a moment of silence for fallen officers.

We can't even get that anymore, a whole fucking minute, 60 whole goddamn seconds of uninterrupted silence for the people who have lost their friends, fathers, husbands, brothers, wives, mothers and sisters.

yall people are so drunk on your hate and your fear, you only listen with the intent to reply and you think anyone who dares walk the line and see things from both sides has to choose one or the other. the media got you so fucked up on what they want you to know you can't even use your own eyes to see for yourself.

[Theinquisition]

OMFG Tony! You are going to come at with that bullshit. Have you stopped trying?

You know my argument of collapsed manufacturing in cities such as Detroit and Baltimore have weight. We have lost all manufacturing throughout the U.S., that has not been replaced. Remember, why all those white people are pissed?

Detroit started to collapse in the early 1960's. It's manufacturing was obviously tied to the car industry. So tell me how do replace MASSIVE job losses over decades. Its impossible. Again I cannot claim that the Dems are flawless. I know there was corruption in Detroit, even recently in 90's or 2000's?

On top of this when people started leaving Detroit like dominoes. You start losing your tax base.



http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/a...king-your-head

your point?

Does it contribute? absolutely, City leadership should have been looking into ways to bring new business and tax revenue in, not chasing what little was left out they were too busy creating additional, unsustainable administrative costs. Hell, I guess taking vacations to Hawaii on the tax payers dime was more important than saving the city. Did you even read the rest of what I posted?

Fucking sigh....this shit right here is EXACTLY why I rarely take the time to post an elaborate and extensive opinion on anything. It's a waste of energy and time.

[THE Bigzoman]

black lives dont even matter to niggaz

they murder each other more than anyone else lmao and they wanna start yelling at white people because every time a nigga that got pulled over by a cop and got shot because they wouldn't comply is on the news when they would listen to and comply with a cop if they were pulled over. it's the dumbest shit i've ever seen.

the whole movement is such a fucking joke that a death threat from blm can be taken about as seriously as kim jong-il's threats to bomb america with nukes


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Fixed.

THere's a difference.

[Felya]

Does your back hurt from that reach?

Not his reach:

http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/ind...owtopic=175617

[oxymoronic]

That's fine, throw another little tantrum, take your toys and go home. It doesn't change the fact that Republicans still desperately rely on bigots for the votes they can't outright steal. It doesn't change the Republican national platform. It doesn't stop the mass harm Republicans cause US citizens every day.



Here you're projecting again, my life is just fine but thanks for your concern.

It takes nothing for me to post a few facts here and there when I have the time.

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thats like saying democrats rely on minorities that refuse to learn what is going on in politics.

we know both are correct, hell they want to bus people in just to vote democrat that had no plans to vote. that 100% doesnt have a clue on the issues and have a "hard time getting to the polling booth". if your life is so fucked up you cant get to the voting booth, then dont fucking vote. concentrate on your shit, dont even think about voting for a person that is gonna set policy for many when your own shit is not in order.

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@Endus

lol



yeah im so racist for pointing out all of these dudes who can't comply with simple police requests when the people mad as fuck about it would have just listened. i'm the racist, when the moms of these largely controversial killings have had evidence given showing their sons resisted officers in a threatening manner were invited to mourn the deaths of their children but you got a bunch of idiots screaming black lives matter at the RNC when the police general asks for a moment of silence for fallen officers.

We can't even get that anymore, a whole fucking minute, 60 whole goddamn seconds of uninterrupted silence for the people who have lost their friends, fathers, husbands, brothers, wives, mothers and sisters.

yall people are so drunk on your hate and your fear, you only listen with the intent to reply and you think anyone who dares walk the line and see things from both sides has to choose one or the other. the media got you so fucked up on what they want you to know you can't even use your own eyes to see for yourself.

as more time goes on more people see it this way. do black people in particular need a class on how to be arrested properly? cause i think so. this seems to be a problem they have more than anybody else. in all the videos we see it goes like this

cop: "put your hands behind your back you're under arrest
suspect: "nah fuck that" "wtf did i do" "you cant fucking do that"
cop: uses physical force to place suspect under arrest
suspect: either fights back or tries to run

then somebody gets hurts.

only 1 video out of 100s was a black man innocent. he got out of his vehicle and was told to get license, as he reached into the vehicle he was shot. the police officer was afraid, why cause a black man was putting his hands out of the officers view. why was the officer afraid? cause black people have a reputation for violence and killing. so while the officer was at fault technically, all violent black people are at fault for creating such a hostile horrible work atmosphere.

[Vynestra]

that's why they are the democratic base and Clinton is winning over 90% of african americans.

But they don't matter to dems.

[oxymoronic]

that's why they are the democratic base and Clinton is winning over 90% of african americans.

But they don't matter to dems.

did you just say blacks are the base of the democratic party?

i mean, i guess, since liberals love that shit... get to the back, all whites to the back

[Shenkz]

Racist right-wing cops kill unarmed black men in democratic run cities, not sure what point you are trying to make?

[Vynestra]

did you just say blacks are the base of the democratic party?

i mean, i guess, since liberals love that shit... get to the back, all whites to the back

Umm...they're the base, yes.

You can win the dem primary without black support. Of course latino's are also a good chunk of the base now, especially with trump.

But yes, they are the base. Minorities in general are.

Just like whites are the gop base.