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    Quote Originally Posted by mvallas View Post
    Knowing Dump's stupidity, if you asked him his opinion on Sharia Law - he would tell you he's not familiar with who she is or what songs she sings, but that Sharia is probably a very talented actress...

    And, yes, he would've been mistaken - if what you're suggesting is to be believed.
    Not really. If you want people who's prerogative is to culturally degrade western civ to 9th century standards, then by all means we should continue as we are going. The overwhelming majority of muslims, like 97-98%, embrace sharia law or have adapted it on some level, even in east asia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Batman View Post
    Trump has made so many mis-steps and faux pas that if I was a Trumple I'd have to wonder "Is he intentionally trying to lose?" rather than admiring his tenacity.

    But I realize a bit of introspection and critical analyses are required to recognize that Trump is dumping gasoline on his campaign and is just shy of throwing the match in there too.

    He COULD be winning against the system, but instead he's taking every opportunity he can to take cheap shots at the system, and with each one letting any chance of victory slip further and further away.
    I always kinda thought trump was a shill. He sure is acting like one by taking on emotional debates that aren't winnable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stacyrect View Post
    Not really. If you want people who's prerogative is to culturally degrade western civ to 9th century standards, then by all means we should continue as we are going. The overwhelming majority of muslims, like 97-98%, embrace sharia law or have adapted it on some level, even in east asia.
    They have the middle east to practice that nonsense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yggdrasil View Post
    I'm fairly convinced he is just playing victim and if he loses will baby rage about how the system is rigged.
    Oh it's rigged and a stacked decked dude. Her running mate used to be the chair of the dnc. The former chair of the dnc that woman that fucked bernie was clinton campaign co chair when she lost to obama. After hillary lost to obama clinton talked tim kaine into stepping down for that woman that screwed bernie. now kaine gets to be vp in her campaign and the woman is back to campaign manager with a new promotion in the white house for her loyalty over the years. it makes you wonder what favor the current dnc chair will get for playing this game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nexx226 View Post
    How does the DNC wanting to make sure Clinton is the nominee imply the system is rigged against Trump?
    It doesn't, directly. But it does show a very front row seat to how politicians play with "you scratch my back, I scratch yours" with deals. Especially with the Clintons in general and how many scandals/mishaps/close calls(whatever you call them) they have had since they started in politics

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerbo View Post
    Registered just to reply to this thread. A lot of hate going towards a man taking on the system! Taking on the system was what made America great in the first place!

    The DNC/Clinton Machine, Globalist, and even the RNC are the system. Donald has taken a giant turd in their kool-aid.

    Everything is rigged against Donald...yet here stands this non-PC New Yorker giving them all the middle finger! And people are reminded that what made America great was the pioneering spirit. The "don't tell me how to think, what to do, or what I can/cannot say" attitude. Rise up friends, join Trump in giving the global elitist the largest F-U in modern history!
    Nonsense, Trump is gaining popularity because you think he's here to challenge the establishment, yet he havent given you any info on how he plans on changing the current system.

    Trump is giving extremely easy answers to difficult questions, and that's it, mexican immigration? "build a wall", ISIS? "kill their families" etc. it's not solutions but populism, you can't build a wall, you can't kill the families to ISIS members (really self-explanatory).

    I'm not sure what's worst, Trump or the sheep who belives his populistic nonsense. Now there's obviously a reason for why he's gaining followers, but Trump is not the answer to the American system, which I agree with is problematic to say the least.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    He isn't "neck-to-neck", he is down by 7 points. You really should do more research before saying things.
    Check: realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton.

    Clinton up 4.1 with a Margin of Error of ~3...When adding Stein and Johnson in the mix it is Clinton up 2.6 with MOE ~2.5...You should really do more research before saying things about others doing their research before saying things.

    Also Brexit had "remain" up over 8+ points going into the vote...

    With your logic, every politician that is in the top 1% must be pro-globalism.

    The Moody's Report, which I am assuming you are quoting, somehow put Hillary's plan at only adding $2T in debt even though she is continuing the same "promises" of Obama--and he has added $9T in 8 years (on track to $10T before he leaves office). She promises to raise taxes on the rich, but so did Obama and it did nothing to the debt. She promises to close loopholes for wall street and bankers--but she made a small fortune in 2014 in speaking fees to these very organizations. Economic growth has been abysmal under Obama. She will double down on global economics and, just like Obama, break all the promises of making the 1% pay their fair share (bite the hand that feeds, ha). Not saying the Repub establishment is any better--which is why they tried to bury Donald like Burnie was buried.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Connal View Post
    I think the debates will be really interesting. Mostly because this time he has to play to the generel election, not his base. And he cannot seem to control himself when he is not reading directly from a teleprompter.
    I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if there are one or none debates.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malacras View Post
    Not sure if this was already posted:

    http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/article...lady-erections

    Not too bad.
    I doubt anyone minds those nearly as much as anyone else currently in line for First "lady" being naked *shudders*

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerbo View Post
    Check: realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton.

    Clinton up 4.1 with a Margin of Error of ~3...When adding Stein and Johnson in the mix it is Clinton up 2.6 with MOE ~2.5...You should really do more research before saying things about others doing their research before saying things.

    Also Brexit had "remain" up over 8+ points going into the vote...

    With your logic, every politician that is in the top 1% must be pro-globalism.

    The Moody's Report, which I am assuming you are quoting, somehow put Hillary's plan at only adding $2T in debt even though she is continuing the same "promises" of Obama--and he has added $9T in 8 years (on track to $10T before he leaves office). She promises to raise taxes on the rich, but so did Obama and it did nothing to the debt. She promises to close loopholes for wall street and bankers--but she made a small fortune in 2014 in speaking fees to these very organizations. Economic growth has been abysmal under Obama. She will double down on global economics and, just like Obama, break all the promises of making the 1% pay their fair share (bite the hand that feeds, ha). Not saying the Repub establishment is any better--which is why they tried to bury Donald like Burnie was buried.
    There is no serious way to cut spending and fix "the debt" (that doesn't matter in the first place) other than to savage Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, in that order.

    Neither party is proposing that, especially now that boomers are retiring. Everything else is just moving vegetables around the dinner plate, so to speak. But it's truly academic: the big three are by far the largest share of spending, and largest share of spending growth. They're also fantastically popular.

    It's not a Democratic or Republican problem. It is an American problem. One discussed for twenty years. Some generation of big-three recipients are going to get shafted to bring it back into fiscal responsibility. It isn't going to be the people receiving benefits now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerbo View Post
    Registered just to reply to this thread. A lot of hate going towards a man taking on the system! Taking on the system was what made America great in the first place!

    The DNC/Clinton Machine, Globalist, and even the RNC are the system. Donald has taken a giant turd in their kool-aid.

    Everything is rigged against Donald...yet here stands this non-PC New Yorker giving them all the middle finger! And people are reminded that what made America great was the pioneering spirit. The "don't tell me how to think, what to do, or what I can/cannot say" attitude. Rise up friends, join Trump in giving the global elitist the largest F-U in modern history!
    Nothing is rigged against Trump. He is just the single most talentless, incompetent, unqualified and unacceptable candidate for President in decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skroe View Post
    There is no serious way to cut spending and fix "the debt" (that doesn't matter in the first place) other than to savage Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, in that order.

    Neither party is proposing that, especially now that boomers are retiring. Everything else is just moving vegetables around the dinner plate, so to speak. But it's truly academic: the big three are by far the largest share of spending, and largest share of spending growth. They're also fantastically popular.

    It's not a Democratic or Republican problem. It is an American problem. One discussed for twenty years. Some generation of big-three recipients are going to get shafted to bring it back into fiscal responsibility. It isn't going to be the people receiving benefits now.

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    Nothing is rigged against Trump. He is just the single most talentless, incompetent, unqualified and unacceptable candidate for President in decades.(opinion, since he meets the qualifications for president)
    http://www.presidentsusa.net/qualifications.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by billymayz View Post
    It doesn't, directly. But it does show a very front row seat to how politicians play with "you scratch my back, I scratch yours" with deals. Especially with the Clintons in general and how many scandals/mishaps/close calls(whatever you call them) they have had since they started in politics
    Does this surprise you? Politics around the world has been about nepotism and mutual benefits. That's how the political system works, there are almost no altruists who run for whatever office out of a deeply ingrained sense of duty and responsibility.
    I don't believe that Trump is any different. He's a business man, that's an even more cutthroat profession than being a politician.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pangean View Post
    Sexually harassed at work? You need to quit and find a new job instead of the perpetrator being dealt with according to Trump. Given he is good friends with Ailes and supposedly guided him in his last days at Fox this should not be a surprise. Remember this the next time he blathers on about supporting women. h/t Garnier Fructis.

    Trump's latest controversy: He'd hope Ivanka would quit if harassed at work

    The latest controversy surrounding Donald Trump has blown up on social media, and it's not about taxes or his comments about a fallen Muslim soldier.

    It's about women's rights in the workplace — or, more specifically, about how Trump would react if his own daughter, Ivanka Trump, experienced the kind of sexual harassment that Ailes allegedly inflicted on multiple female employees while he was Fox News CEO.

    Ailes, 76, has resigned since several Fox News employees reported being harassed by Ailes, from former Fox & Friends co-host Gretchen Carlson to star Megyn Kelly.

    USA TODAY's Kirsten Powers asked the GOP presidential nominee in an interview last week, "What if someone had treated Ivanka in the way Ailes allegedly behaved?"

    His response? “I would like to think she would find another career or find another company if that was the case."

    It was startling, she said, "even by Trumpian standards."

    Powers isn't the only one questioning Trump's defense of Ailes. Laura Bassett of The Huffington Post wrote that while Trump might find it "very sad" that these women have complained about Ailes, "what is even more sad is Trump’s failure to realize that when men with authority abuse their power, it too often entrenches a culture of fear, silence and powerlessness."

    Others questioned why Trump suggested the onus would be on Ivanka in such a scenario.

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/p...31lsJ7LgjNSigw
    on a side-note but related, remember me questioning what ever happened to Sarah Palin? Ironically it does sound like she's dumped Dump as she's been complaining that she's lost a few jobs recently simply because of her support of the Dumpster.

    But on-topic, yeah - way to go Dumpy! You encourage those women to just leave those men who abuse power at be and forgo all your training and hard work to find another career option! >_<

    To quote an oft-derided D3 Designer: "Fuck that looser".

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    Quote Originally Posted by billymayz View Post
    I doubt anyone minds those nearly as much as anyone else currently in line for First "lady" being naked *shudders*
    I'll take some risque young Bill pics if anyone is offering.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myz View Post
    Does this surprise you? Politics around the world has been about nepotism and mutual benefits. That's how the political system works, there are almost no altruists who run for whatever office out of a deeply ingrained sense of duty and responsibility.
    no, almost nothing in politics should be a surprise to anyone. today alone I've read that one candidate may be responsible for delivering arms to ISIS via wikilinks, and I also seen another candidates wife naked. I'm libertarian on most subjects, and I currently can't find myself voting for the libertarian candidate( more of a Paul kind of guy). I hate socialism, and honestly felt bad for the socialist candidate and his followers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Algy View Post
    I'll take some risque young Bill pics if anyone is offering.
    no thanks, although it would probably look like a grey Austin powers attacked by Intern fembots if we kept it cheeky and "fun"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stacyrect View Post
    Not really. If you want people who's prerogative is to culturally degrade western civ to 9th century standards, then by all means we should continue as we are going. The overwhelming majority of muslims, like 97-98%, embrace sharia law or have adapted it on some level, even in east asia.
    ...have you been listening to Donald Dump's campaign? He's, quite literally, advocating segregation, banning religions and cultures and encouraging racial tensions all while completely denying science at every angle. He's the one who's dragging us back to the 9th century, not several Muslims who believe in their faith.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myz View Post
    I don't believe that Trump is any different. He's a business man, that's an even more cutthroat profession than being a politician.
    Funny thing, people I never would of thought in a million years agree with him, want him in for exactly that

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    Quote Originally Posted by billymayz View Post
    Funny thing, people I never would of thought in a million years agree with him, want him in for exactly that
    Except that a country is not a business. That's the problem. In my own country we usually see that businessmen who transition to politics have a rough time adjusting to the difference of running a city, county, province, etc. to that of running a listed company.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mvallas View Post
    ...have you been listening to Donald Dump's campaign? He's, quite literally, advocating segregation, banning religions and cultures and encouraging racial tensions all while completely denying science at every angle. He's the one who's dragging us back to the 9th century, not several Muslims who believe in their faith.
    we are already there btw
    http://buzzpo.com/no-whites-allowed-...only-assembly/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myz View Post
    Except that a country is not a business. That's the problem.
    Well, depends how you argue it. If we say its a business that everyone pays into for services rendered,(branches of government, laws, military, social security) than we could say that the government is a business where the products are the parenthesis above. That your votes are a way of influencing how it is ran to render you these services as well as the upper management. So through that branch, we determine how the internals function, how exports/imports are handled, how our outside customers are treated/traded with(trade partners) how our sister branches are(allies), then yes, you could argue loosely that it is indeed a business.

    You could also argue it as a person/entity, a piece of art, an automobile, or almost any other item with the correct observations and relations to these

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crispin View Post
    Nonsense, Trump is gaining popularity because you think he's here to challenge the establishment, yet he havent given you any info on how he plans on changing the current system.

    Trump is giving extremely easy answers to difficult questions, and that's it, mexican immigration? "build a wall", ISIS? "kill their families" etc. it's not solutions but populism, you can't build a wall, you can't kill the families to ISIS members (really self-explanatory).

    I'm not sure what's worst, Trump or the sheep who belives his populistic nonsense. Now there's obviously a reason for why he's gaining followers, but Trump is not the answer to the American system, which I agree with is problematic to say the least.
    The public didn't even know what TPP was until Donald...Hillary had to publicly change her stance once the details were revealed on primetime. He has already stood up against the establishment and made an impact...more than Hillary who had to change her tune.

    We can build walls all over the country just not along the most abused sections of our southern border? Try flying into the US without a passport or carrying drugs, or weapons, or with a criminal record...but walking across our border is OK? Selectively choosing which laws to enforce is OK?

    Whenever you try to fight the norm you stir the hornet's nest--that is because real change usually comes at a price. I don't agree with Obama's politics, but he did stand up to the critics and to the Clinton Machine and he won. The superdelegates ensured that would not happen again, so Bernie got crushed. The Repubs will likely do the same to ensure a Donald never comes again.

    I believe Donald say F-U to globalist on my behalf, that is why he gets my vote. To each their own. I am out, I am sorry I interrupted the Trump Rage Thread. Please continue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    If Trump is as rich as he says he is, then he IS THAT 1%. His tax plan is going to keep him there too. His tax plan would add $10 TRILLION to our debt alone. You guys bash Obama for the debt but his tax plan would add more than Obama did and that isn't with his other policies.

    He isn't "neck-to-neck", he is down by 7 points. You really should do more research before saying things.
    He is losing by 7 points nationally. But in some vital swing states such as Ohio and Penn, it is much closer. The polls in the states which have been traditionally the deciding ones, are the most important. The rust belt , the states in it have been decimated by the jobs moving out and the reduction of coal production. People there are more concerned about the economy than how offensive Trump is.

    And he is more favored for fixing the economy than Hillary is. In spite of his dumb responses to the bait of the democrats, it still could be a very close election this Nov.

    I also watched a video of how the Muslim man and his wife who made the emotional speech about the lost of their son, is a lawyer working for the Clinton Foundation and works to get more Muslims into the US. So Trump may have hit a gold nerve with him. This does not negate Trump's insensitive response to them. He certainly messed up. But it does shed more light on the situation for myself.

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