Sargeras = Final boss confirmed?!!!!!!!

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Next expansion may be we finally go to the Twisting Nether after pushing the legion from Azeroth and start really killing Demons or like a huge 7.4 patch with Argus as the final raid of legion.

My bet is Kiljaeden will be a boss in Legion. If you read the history of Havoc DH artifact weapon it implies, that this blade( the artifact weapon) will maybe be used one day to slain the master of the old owner - e.g. Kil'jaeden.

If Sargeras is a boss I think at most it will be the Avatar of Sargeras. Altho it may be possible to rid the world of the Burning Legion even if it is less likey, as we still have the Void to deal with.

[MikeBogina]

So far Sargeras is still gone. KJ is acting leader of the Legion which could mean 1 of 2 scenarios.

1, Sargeras is gone, cause he needs to focus on recovering after dying so recently and can't even lead in his condition.
2, Sargeras is mia, cause his soul didn't get to go back to the Nether. Which Archimonde and KJ filled the void.

IMO, #2 is a likely plot twist, since #1 is so dull. I think the Legion is in a frenzy and Sargeras being MIA is why the Legion keeps messing up and losing demons to Illidan. Without Sargeras' presence, it seems Illidan only has to contend with KJ and Demons are more likely to change sides without fearing Sargeras. I mean this guy said he'll perma kill you, why join Illidan who can only temporarily kill you?

Because of this, I dont think we'll see Sargeras at all. I think KJ or some kind of psuedo Sargeras(avatar) will be the final boss of the expansion. And I think the Old God(s) got some plots and schemes going on. Their real enemy is the Legion and the Legion's real enemy is them.

inb4 N'zoth possess Sargeras' avatar and fucks up the Legion!

[Wries]

Dealt with? It took a full raid together with a blue dragon and Anveena's sacrifice, who was the embodiment of the Sunwell to fight and push back Kil'jaeden who had only partially manifested into our world. Kil'Jaeden is one of the main leaders of the Burning Legion. Expect to fight him again, this time when he's at his full power. I believe he will be the final boss of this expansion.

I didn't say "he dead" o.O . But it's just boring to revisit or have him as the final boss of the expansion titled "Legion".

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I didn't say "he dead" o.O . But it's just boring to revisit or have him as the final boss of the expansion titled "Legion".

It would be crazy to have any other boss for and expansion titled Legion. That said, just because it is Kil'jaden, it doesn't have to be even remotely similar to Sunwell. Especially if we do it on Argus where he will die for good.

[derpkitteh]

sargeras is on the other side of that portal and just waiting for the legion to make it strong enough to transport him here.

he's not the end boss of legion, and i don't think we should ever fight him anyway.

[MikeBogina]

Dealt with? It took a full raid together with a blue dragon and Anveena's sacrifice, who was the embodiment of the Sunwell to fight and push back Kil'jaeden who had only partially manifested into our world. Kil'Jaeden is one of the main leaders of the Burning Legion. Expect to fight him again, this time when he's at his full power. I believe he will be the final boss of this expansion.

Did it take that to beat him? I consider if one man is standing, it took all that, but if everyone is standing at the end, then it was overkill. Deathwing was assailed numerous times by a shit ton of attacks, that left the aspects without their powers in the end. It took all that! Arthas endured a raid beating on him before one shotting them all and then was defeated by cheating ass Tyrion. It took more than that(cause if he went serious from the start, 26 ppl would be dead instantly). Illidan fought and killed many of his assailants, but was barely defeated in the end, thanks to Maiev and Akama. It took all of that.

I don't think that 1 blue drake* and a well girl was necessarily needed. Imo, we stomped KJ, but I think he was also handicapped big time. We also beat Archimonde twice now without him being handicapped and he's technically more powerful in combat than KJ. KJ is gonna have to have some amps or be fought in the Nether to be the final boss.

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It would be crazy to have any other boss for and expansion titled Legion. That said, just because it is Kil'jaden, it doesn't have to be even remotely similar to Sunwell. Especially if we do it on Argus where he will die for good.

The Burning Crusade: Kiljaeden(illidan boxart) on Azeroth
Mists of Pandaria: Garrosh(Pandaren boxart) in Orgrimmar
Warlords of Draenor: Archimonde(Grommash boxart) technically the nether!

Legion: Azshara(Illidan boxart) in the Void!

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Or, you can read the small book (audio book) The Tomb of Sargeras and know that all you said is not real.

And the Legion is not without a leader. Guldan is leading them.

[Kiea]

Or, you can read the small book (audio book) The Tomb of Sargeras and know that all you said is not real.

And the Legion is not without a leader. Guldan is leading them.

Gul'dan is a puppet to Kil'Jaeden, he has always been, and in every timeline

[Dominus89]

Blizzard said that the last boss will be someone we wont expcect, wich removes Sargeras from the equation.

Or, you can read the small book (audio book) The Tomb of Sargeras and know that all you said is not real.

And the Legion is not without a leader. Guldan is leading them.

Gul'dan leading The Legion? Bwaahahahaha... as soon as The Legion is done with him or he steps out of line, they wil destroy him (again).

[Sencha]

It will be Fel-Varian.

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This has to be Sargeras..only if we kill him what will happen with Legion? Can't be it's going to be end of Legion. There is actually no one who could lead Legion after Sargeras defeat.

[Ealyssa]

I'm beting on KJ being the last boss.

We will activate the portal Illidan made to Argus ("Illidan" book). And will kill him there.

Next expansion being on argus and/or other Legion planets. With maybe a Sargeras kill as it is now clearly established that the void is the real threat to the universe, he can be killed without causing a lore hole.

[Twistedelmo]

There's literally nothing that says artifact weapons will be useless after Legion other than speculation. If artifact weapons turn out to be popular and people like them, it's very likely we will still use them after Legion. I have no idea where you're getting this information from.

Anyway, there's absolutely no way anybody will be able to kill Sargeras, with or without artifacts. He's a titan who created the Burning Legion, which is kicking our asses with its hands tied behind its back. I say that the expansion where we're able to kill a titan is very far off.

I'm Hoping they treat them like previous legendaries Ring/cloak making them no longer obtainable and transmogible with the skins that were unlocked in this expansion.

[intrinsc]

I think it would be more possible if we weaken Sargeras and the story goes towards incorporating Illidan and the Army of the Light into the story and we end up with what Wrathion said in Mists about the Army of Light and the Void battling it out and our power turning the tide.

[Shakou]

Call it informed speculation, but the whole plot with Muradin involves him turning into a diamond and coming back is because he's communing with Azeroth itself, as in the latent embryonic Titan growing inside of the planet. Muradin is mean to prepare the world for this it would seem: Azeroth's birth and/or death at the hands of the legion, it certainly seems the plot of the expansion involves Sargeras trying to awaken the Titan Azeroth to bring her to his side. We also more or less know that Gul'dan is using Illidan's body as a suitable host for Sargeras.

Whether that plays out or not, frankly y'all are crazy if you think they're gonna go through all the trouble of creating a Legion-centric expansion and not feature Sargeras at all. He'll make his way in there somehow.

Also, hilarious that you guys think we can kill Old Gods and the most powerful servants of the Titans, and Deathwing, but several expansions later a Titan is still out of our reach. Get some perspective. They have two options, give us some kind of fight against Sargeras in a raid, or create another antagonist out of thin air and/or Kil'Jaeden redux and disappoint us all.

Seems pretty obvious to me that they've been setting us up for a Pantheon vs Sargeras showdown since WOTLK. Here's the kicker, that battle isn't the end of wow and the real big bads are the Void Lords, of which the Old Gods are merely servants of. Sargeras might be the "big bad" but, he's actually using the Burning Legion to cleanse the universe of embryonic Titans, because the Void Lords are after them too but are trying to corrupt them. The Pantheon's mission is to bring order to worlds to bring those Titans forth eventually, presumably to eventually defeat the Void Lords.

Moving forward, where could they possibly go with this story other than bringing the Titan's back in some form now and dealing a serious blow against Sargeras? If they don't do that this is basically just another set back and no one wants that.

You ask me, some of you really need to get over the idea there's ever going to be a WOW 2 or a Warcraft 4. As far as Blizzard sees it WOW is Warcraft 4 and a whole lot more.

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I just cannot accept the fact that Sargeras would be ever a last boss of an expansion, hes just ''Too'' Big for us to handle lore wise.

[Deleted]

Or, you can read the small book (audio book) The Tomb of Sargeras and know that all you said is not real.

And the Legion is not without a leader. Guldan is leading them.

What the f....

Gul'dan is most certainly NOT leading the Legion lol.

Dont tell people to read up on things when you didnt get the core concept yourself

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I just cannot accept the fact that Sargeras would be ever a last boss of an expansion, hes just ''Too'' Big for us to handle lore wise.

I agree. We are the "foot soldiers" or semi sergeants of the alliance and horde armies. We arent the great named heroes or god dieties.

We can fend of some pretty big things. But sargeras, unless seriously retconned(a word i normally hate) is to big for us.

[satimy]

Do we have to kill azshara? I refuse to kill my queen

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which is also the perfect opportunity to create a complete new world, maybe even planet, as the new main stage for our characters.

I hardly believe that Blizzard will make such massively HUGE step of obliterating 10 years of content just for a such small plottwist as us losing against Legion In last patch/tier. More likely we will fight on another planet in a desperate hope to defeat them, but just they will show us how small we are compared to Legion's forces.

Anyway after that huge plot twist in WoD that gave us Archi instead of Grommash as end boss I don't even dare to speculate anymore.

[Shakou]

Call it informed speculation, but the whole plot with Muradin involves him turning into a diamond and coming back is because he's communing with Azeroth itself, as in the latent embryonic Titan growing inside of the planet. Muradin is mean to prepare the world for this it would seem: Azeroth's birth and/or death at the hands of the legion, it certainly seems the plot of the expansion involves Sargeras trying to awaken the Titan Azeroth to bring her to his side. We also more or less know that Gul'dan is using Illidan's body as a suitable host for Sargeras.

Whether that plays out or not, frankly y'all are crazy if you think they're gonna go through all the trouble of creating a Legion-centric expansion and not feature Sargeras at all. He'll make his way in there somehow.

Also, hilarious that you guys think we can kill Old Gods and the most powerful servants of the Titans, and Deathwing, but several expansions later a Titan is still out of our reach. Get some perspective. They have two options, give us some kind of fight against Sargeras in a raid, or create another antagonist out of thin air and/or Kil'Jaeden redux and disappoint us all.

Seems pretty obvious to me that they've been setting us up for a Pantheon vs Sargeras showdown since WOTLK. Here's the kicker, that battle isn't the end of wow and the real big bads are the Void Lords, of which the Old Gods are merely servants of. Sargeras might be the "big bad" but, he's actually using the Burning Legion to cleanse the universe of embryonic Titans, because the Void Lords are after them too but are trying to corrupt them. The Pantheon's mission is to bring order to worlds to bring those Titans forth eventually, presumably to eventually defeat the Void Lords.

Moving forward, where could they possibly go with this story other than bringing the Titan's back in some form now and dealing a serious blow against Sargeras? If they don't do that this is basically just another set back and no one wants that.

You ask me, some of you really need to get over the idea there's ever going to be a WOW 2 or a Warcraft 4. As far as Blizzard sees it WOW is Warcraft 4 and a whole lot more.

By the way, the gist of my post is confirmed here, as far as the plot involving the Titan Azeroth:


Don't watch the video if you don't want spoilers.