Shadowstrike Range nerfed?

[Deleted]

I was just leveling my rogue when all of a SUDDEN my range from Shadowstrike changed from 25 to 15.
What the hell is happening?

By the way: Stealth bug is worse than ever.

//Edit: Nvm, found a thread in the official forums: eu.battle.net/forums/en/wow/topic/17613131224

Greetings
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[Todesbote]

The only way to not get triggered by last minute (and even way PAST release) changes that fundamentally alter the way we play the game is to expect it. Blizzard has always done this.
Btw. if Outlaw will turn out to be competitive in ST, expect a huge nerf to either ST or BF (by like 50%).

[Terahertz]

Wow. Nerf from 25 to 20 I could've lived with, but a 10 yard range nerf seems pretty excessive.

They should buff Shadowstep's range to 30 yards.

[Kazzai]

Just when I was loving 100-0% shadowstrike wombo combos in world pvp vs flying mounts they do this.

[Spriestlawl]

Just when I was loving 100-0% shadowstrike wombo combos in world pvp vs flying mounts they do this.

It's exactly why they change things like this.. it's absolutely ridiculous at points.

Also, I'm not entirely sure they'll nerf Outlaw. I think the goal is to bring the specs closer to outlaw and leave them. A significant portion dislike the playstyle and it's not really going to impact that much raid wise if they are all close. Issue is we really just don't know.. Almost all of the changes we've seen have been randomly thrown out. We got no word RtB was changed until after it was already live. We have no clue the intention behind the class design sadly..

[minteK917]

For pvp Outlaw was already getting more and more traction because it out class sub in CC and burst. If Sub lose too much mobility, outlaw will probably edge out. Sub still have the mongoloid Tankyness as 110. Mabye PShero wont be able to 1v1 scrubs blindfolded anymore, i doubt it thought.

[Emophia]

On one hand it was kind of needed.

But on the other hand, nerfing all the fun stuff like and clawing shadows just makes me more unlikely not to try legion.

Blizzard knows nothing about delicacy when handling this stuff, makes me not want to play at all because any second something I like could be hotfixed to uselessness, like Fury of Air, chi orbit, or clawing shadows, or just straight up removed like death's advance..

[Justpassing]

Patch notes:

-Fun detected; fun nerfed.

[Spriestlawl]

On one hand it was kind of needed.

But on the other hand, nerfing all the fun stuff like and clawing shadows just makes me more unlikely not to try legion.

Blizzard knows nothing about delicacy when handling this stuff, makes me not want to play at all because any second something I like could be hotfixed to uselessness, like Fury of Air, chi orbit, or clawing shadows, or just straight up removed like death's advance..

It's fixed before launch of legion.. when did you expect them to do it? Magically before seeing the mass testing?

[shaunika123]

what i dont get is, why not just nerf it in pvp? i dont think it was really causing problems in raids.

[Hhavok]

I'm sad to see it nerfed, but it looks like Shadowstep hasn't been touched, so we will just have to use shadowstep when we need the range. A 30 second CD isn't too bad.

what i dont get is, why not just nerf it in pvp? i dont think it was really causing problems in raids.

They seem to be trying to bring melee mobility from each spec in line with each other. Unholy DK was the last spec looked at, when they removed the 15% passive movement buff.

I have definitely shadowstrike to some great effect though, to zip around the PVE battlefield, so I know it can give Sub a bit of an edge; like on Mannoroth, when he pushes you out, you can just shadowstrike back to him from close to the edge of the platform, and you can pretty much instantly get to any add and then back to him. It's like being a ninja, which I thought was the class fantasy, but I guess a little bit too much the class fantasy.

[shaunika123]

I'm sad to see it nerfed, but it looks like Shadowstep hasn't been touched, so we will just have to use shadowstep when we need the range. A 30 second CD isn't too bad.



They seem to be trying to bring melee mobility from each spec in line with each other. Unholy DK was the last spec looked at, when they removed the 15% passive movement buff.

I have definitely shadowstrike to some great effect though, to zip around the PVE battlefield, so I know it can give Sub a bit of an edge; like on Mannoroth, when he pushes you out, you can just shadowstrike back to him from close to the edge of the platform, and you can pretty much instantly get to any add and then back to him. It's like being a ninja, which I thought was the class fantasy, but I guess a little bit too much the class fantasy.

yeah but the whole idea of shadowstrike is that you're basically ridiculously mobile, that's what blizz said the class fantasy was "a ninja that teleports around the battlefield

15 yard aint exactly a battlefield.

[elfporn]

yeah but the whole idea of shadowstrike is that you're basically ridiculously mobile, that's what blizz said the class fantasy was "a ninja that teleports around the battlefield

15 yard aint exactly a battlefield.

My question is, is it 15yd from center of hitbox or edge of hitbox? Some bosses have a massive hitbox, others don't.

The reason i bring the thought to mind is because of the recent hotfix on DH, they made fel rush deal damage so long as it passes through the hitbox instead of just the center of the hitbox (remember that fel rush is a dash as wide as our own hitbox)

It would be less impactful if they made it 15yd to edge of hitbox.

[Celfydd]

My question is, is it 15yd from center of hitbox or edge of hitbox? Some bosses have a massive hitbox, others don't.

It's from the centre of the hitbox. For some of the invasion demon lords, you actually have to go right up to the edge of their hitbox before you can shadowstrike at all.

[Deleted]

it is a fucking pvp nerf. you can play the sub blind 1vs1 in arena and win the duel.
youtube.com/watch?v=ztwYfKV7w0A

expect more nerfs for rogue and ww monks

[Danuel]

Like always - PvP "tuning" ruin all fun in wow.

[Firatha]

They better fucking do something to our Legendary boots because this effects it greatly.

Like always - PvP "tuning" ruin all fun in wow.

This shouldnt even happen anymore with how many spells have different values in pvp compared to pve

[Minka]

it is a fucking pvp nerf. you can play the sub blind 1vs1 in arena and win the duel.
youtube.com/watch?v=ztwYfKV7w0A

expect more nerfs for rogue and ww monks

You know that pshero is a really experienced and good rogue and he plays against scrubs on beta skirmishes. There is not really anone who can play their class.
I watched him often enough to tell you that his enemies are so bad that I could puke when I see them plying.

So this is not a good proof

[shaunika123]

it is a fucking pvp nerf. you can play the sub blind 1vs1 in arena and win the duel.
youtube.com/watch?v=ztwYfKV7w0A

expect more nerfs for rogue and ww monks

when all i see above 2.8 are sub rogues i'Ll believe you, until then it's just one of the best rogues in the world beating scrubs

[pkm]

Just when I was loving 100-0% shadowstrike wombo combos in world pvp vs flying mounts they do this.

And they don't even touch fire mages lol. A mage can dismount just above you and slow fall and then pump you full of instant pyroblasts because of fireblast being instant cast, flame on grants 2 charges of it and if that isn't enough they can still combust and spam back to back scorches (can be cast while moving) generating more instant pyros.

I wish they wouldn't do this shit and keep certain classes untouched. I love playing my pure dps classes but time after time blizzard just shows they want people playing mage :/