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If you're talking about the no lawyer thing? They weren't
He never asked for a lawyer and wasnt under arrest until he finished telling them everything. THEN he was read his rights and lawyered. Nothing was done wrong here.
Sure hes retarded in a way but they didnt lead him or anything he was saying what he did freely. They asked thinggs like what happened next and after that then what etc etc.
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i felt bad for the nephew. i dont think he did it or was involved. i think he's just a kid with mental issues and he got wrapped up in it.
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Been a while since I saw the series, but the way it was portrayed did make it seem like that kid was getting railroaded even worse than Avery. At least with Avery there was some circumstantial evidence, but with Dassey it seemed to be based solely on what he himself said...and I think you'd have to have some very creative editing to not make his confession and the circumstances around it look like pure bullshit.
And? There are methods of getting unsuspecting people to reveal information that only the culprit would know, even when they aren't the culprit. This happens either from the police giving this information at some time, or giving information that would cause people to assume a certain scenario. The critical flaw in the idea that confessions are solid because they had details only the culprit knows is that it isn't just the culprit that knows them - the police know them as well.
It's why you should shut up and refuse to talk if you suspect at any point that you're being set up to be a scapegoat.
True but the police didnt lead him on or give any information in the video. HE just started talking giving it all away when they asked what happened. They really only said. What happened, Then what happened after yous went to the garage, etc etc. The dude gave out infomation about what cleaners they used BEFORE the police even tested the area to know what cleaners has been used. He was present at the raping and murder of the girl. His uncle got him to rape,stab,dispose of the body.
He is guilty of manslaughter at the least. He should be in jail
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No idea whether he or his uncle did it but they definitely were set up as well.
The other thorny issue with this testimony being true is that he gave locations and descriptions of events that would have left evidence, yet the police didn't find any evidence in those locations. Testimony that isn't supported by forensic evidence is trash.
They were just masters at cleaning up. Except they left her keys in plain sight (even though it was missed several times, and only spotted by a cop who was banned from being alone at the scene because he was named in the lawsuit that Avery was taking out), and after cleaning up the murder scene so well, when forensic experts dug up the concrete floor and found no evidence of blood, but left a bullet with blood on it, that was missed initially, but found when a cop who was named in the lawsuit showed up. You don't need to be a genius to clean up a scene so well that the forensic teams don't find anything, as evidenced by the evidence found by those cops, which was initially missed.
Very good news, if i took one thing from making a murderer it was brendan had nothing to do with this. Hopefully he gets some money as well to make up for all that time lost.
He was a minor. Parental consent for the interview was required - it wasn't given.
As a former defense attorney, I still have doubts about Avery's potential innocence....but this kid got fucked hard. The first person to say "shot in the head" was a detective, and then the boy was like, "yeah, we shot her." After repeated attempts to get him to admit to something, they started making up the confession themselves. Then the detective was like, "Did you rape her?" Uh, yeah. Those are the definition of leading questions.
The whole alleged confession painted the scene of the crime as the bedroom. Which no physical evidence was found in (and it was a mess, Avery wasn't that clean a guy). Except for a pair of keys, which was found after 3 days of searching (the bedroom being one of the primary search areas), and only after a detective WHO WAS BARRED FROM THE CASE BECAUSE HE WAS INVOLVED IN FRAMING AVERY for his first wrongful conviction showed up at the scene, and congrats, found the keys. Same detective also found the one bullet in the garage where the victim was allegedly killed, this time months after it had been searched. No blood evidence in either the bedroom or the garage for a shooting victim? WoW, Avery must be a crime scene tech, not a sloppy junkyard owner.
Yeah, the point here isn't whether either of them actually did do something illegal, or the opinions of people on that issue. The point here is the gross incompetence and unprofessional behavior of, and railroading of the two suspects by the local cops, DA, judges and even the FBI.
The judges, prosecutor, jury and police that put this kid in prison should be gassed
Until that happens, injustice will continue to thrive
To first duder/ette
Dont be a conspiracy person and the evidence did show that they used what he said they used.
So 2nd duder/ette
They explained very easily with actual evidence how things were missed.Police are free to approach and question any child who may have witnessed or been the victim of a crime, just as they can contact and interview an adult. Police can question a child without a parent present and are not required to obtain permission from a parent before questioning the child.
However, if a parent is present when the police approach the child or police ask permission in advance, a parent can refuse to allow the child to be interviewed. A lawyer (hired by the parent) also can refuse an interview on a child’s behalf.
Children themselves can refuse to be questioned and can also request that a lawyer or a parent be present during any questioning. If police, including officers on the street and school police officers, begin questioning a child and the child requests that she be allowed to call a parent or have a parent present, the police should stop and allow her to do so.
This article addresses the topic of police interviewing children as witnesses or victims of crime.
Key was stuck in back of nightstand stuck to particle board when 2nd search was happening the cops that put it back did it too hard knocking the particle board back and dropping out the key.
True no blood evidence found "besides everything in the van,truck w/e she drove" because it was cleaned up exactly as the guy said it was and they found exactly what he said they would find. They killed the woman the netflix series didnt show all the evidence it only showed what the makers of the show wanted the audience to see. Avery wasnt guilty of the first crime that is 100% true but over the course of the wrongful conviction he became more of a monster "was already a D-bag according to people before hand and him self burning animals alive" But he is guilty of this one and roped his nephew into it with him.
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well that is just civil
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They did nothing wrong
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Actually you cannot make Hitler good in any light. A whole lot of people a hell of a lot smarter than you think this kid was served a miscarriage of justice. Even if he did it those in charge of convicting him broke the law by violating his rights. They should do their jobs better instead of being lazy corner cutting mouth breathers.
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How is the fact the zero of what he said about how they did was forensically verifiable so irrelevant to you? There was zero blood in the house. Not even Dexter is thst good. The matress would have been a mess. Some particle stuck to the wall or crappy csrpet the didnt replace. No sign of a struggle, no chains, no nothing. You want him to be guilty because he said some horrible things, tha turned out werrnt true.
lets be clear about Dassey. He isnt smart enouh to enlist to die in war. He is not smart enough to learn soldiering. That is how dumb he is. He is so dumb he thought he could go home after because he told the cops what they wanted to hear. Try to full comprehend that and then think about what it must be like.
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Actually they clesrly lead him. He said tyey killed her with a knife. They coached him to say also a gun. He said they shot her in the chest. They road him until he also guess they shot her in the head. Those things are not legal. They also clearly show he was stsbbing in the dark and had no idea what actually happened. If you dont think thats coaching, then you clearly dont know what the word means.