Help with upgrading

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Hi all,

I'm looking to upgrade some parts of my set-up, I only tend to play WoW as it's all I have time to, occasionally, I play Overwatch and sometimes Wildstar,

Currently I'm looking to upgrade my Processor and my Graphics card.

I have been advised by a friend that I should go for a nVidia GeForce GTX 1060/1070 -

and for Processor - Intel Core i5 6400 2.7GHz Socket 1151 6MB L3 Cache Retail Boxed Processor

I'm not all that fussed about massive graphics and ultra settings, I just want to run WoW without having any low fps during intense graphical parts of WoW.

Between both I would say I'm looking to spend maybe £500/£600

Whe in wow I run around 50-60 fps when doing solo content, or 5 man, then during raids 20-30 it's around 20-30fps which I would like a bit more stable for example on encounters it can drop and cause issues whilst raiding.

If anyone could assist in that, I'd be very appreciative.

[Thunderball]

What is your current setup? £600 is obviously not enough for the build like featuring those components. Also, advice from the future: i3-6100 will be faster than i5-6400 in most games due lower clock of the latter, and costs a lot less. If you're looking for an i5 you start off with i5-6500.

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Processor - AMD FX(tm)-4300 Quad-Core Processor (4 CPUs), ~3.8ghz
Graphics card - AMD Radeon R7 200 Series.

Pretty shite from what I've been told, I'm clueless about these kinda things...

[JalJaze]

Hi all,

I'm looking to upgrade some parts of my set-up, I only tend to play WoW as it's all I have time to, occasionally, I play Overwatch and sometimes Wildstar,

Currently I'm looking to upgrade my Processor and my Graphics card.

I have been advised by a friend that I should go for a nVidia GeForce GTX 1060/1070 -

and for Processor - Intel Core i5 6400 2.7GHz Socket 1151 6MB L3 Cache Retail Boxed Processor

I'm not all that fussed about massive graphics and ultra settings, I just want to run WoW without having any low fps during intense graphical parts of WoW.

Between both I would say I'm looking to spend maybe £500/£600

Whe in wow I run around 50-60 fps when doing solo content, or 5 man, then during raids 20-30 it's around 20-30fps which I would like a bit more stable for example on encounters it can drop and cause issues whilst raiding.

If anyone could assist in that, I'd be very appreciative.

From what I see,GTX 1060/70 (might) be a bit much for you. I mean you are kinda future proofing your PC with a GTX 1060/70 but then again you only play WOW, even a R9 280x would run it nice. I got a FX-6300 and a 280x, does mighty fine for me, even after being 3 years old rig.

[Thunderball]

Processor - AMD FX(tm)-4300 Quad-Core Processor (4 CPUs), ~3.8ghz
Graphics card - AMD Radeon R7 200 Series.

Pretty shite from what I've been told, I'm clueless about these kinda things...

Ok, try to fill this out as detailed as possible. We'll see what can be done.

Budget
Resolution
Games / Settings Desired
Any other intensive software or special things you do (Frequent video encoding, 3D modeling, etc)
Country
Parts that can be reused
Do you need an OS?
Do you need peripherals (e.g. monitor, mouse, keyboard, speakers, etc)?

[Deleted]

Ok, try to fill this out as detailed as possible. We'll see what can be done.

Budget - £500-£600 depends really I'm not looking to spend thousands.
Resolution
Games / Settings Desired - WoW sometimes Overwatch - perfectly with no FPS spikes on High or higher
Any other intensive software or special things you do (Frequent video encoding, 3D modeling, etc) - No
Country - UK
Parts that can be reused - No idea xD
Do you need an OS? - No using W10
Do you need peripherals (e.g. monitor, mouse, keyboard, speakers, etc)?

- I have all the peripherals, I just need the processor and graphics card upgrades.

[Thunderball]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6500 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£182.99 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: ASRock B150M-HDS Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£52.43 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory (£61.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Thermaltake Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£32.74 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: EVGA 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (£51.95 @ Overclockers.co.uk)
Other: Sapphire Radeon RX 470 Nitro+ OC 8GB (£219.00)
Total: £601.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-14 15:33 BST+0100

EDIT: What kind of PSU and case you're using? Maybe you can reuse it.

[Packing an i5]

Salty you could save a lot of money by re using your current motherboard.

you have the 4300 FX there have been many better models of the FX processor since then. Some of the 8 cores and one of the six cores were re released in a special edition that includes a much better stock cooler called the AMD wraith cooler.

The following models use the AM3+ Socket and are well under 200 dollars: 8370,8370e,8350,8320,8320e,8300 Those are all 8 Core and some of them have great overclocking headroom. Then you have the Six Core Vishera FX cpus the 6300 and 6350. If your motherboard is like mine and the box says all it can support is six cores (mine is rather old and I have the FX 4100) the highest you can go is the 6350. Be aware that most of these FX processors have a high Tdp 125w don't even consider the highest end ones the 9370 and 9590 basically watercooling required and an expensive 990FX motherboard they have an outrageous 220w tdp.

If your bent on getting a new board to switch to Intel I recommend the Skylake i5s at the lowest anything else would be a waste of time you would be stuck with slow clock speeds or the i3 which only has 2 true cores.

[Thunderball]

Salty you could save a lot of money by re using your current motherboard.

you have the 4300 FX there have been many better models of the FX processor since then. Some of the 8 cores and one of the six cores were re released in a special edition that includes a much better stock cooler called the AMD wraith cooler.

The following models use the AM3+ Socket and are well under 200 dollars: 8370,8370e,8350,8320,8320e,8300 Those are all 8 Core and some of them have great overclocking headroom. Then you have the Six Core Vishera FX cpus the 6300 and 6350. If your motherboard is like mine and the box says all it can support is six cores (mine is rather old and I have the FX 4100) the highest you can go is the 6350. Be aware that most of these FX processors have a high Tdp 125w don't even consider the highest end ones the 9370 and 9590 basically watercooling required and an expensive 990FX motherboard they have an outrageous 220w tdp.

If your bent on getting a new board to switch to Intel I recommend the Skylake i5s at the lowest anything else would be a waste of time you would be stuck with slow clock speeds or the i3 which only has 2 true cores.

None of them are worth it.

[Packing an i5]

None of them are worth it.

I would still argue for a budget Build the price for performance ratio for the 8320,8320e and 8300 is pretty damn good. The 8350 no or anything higher up in the lineup too expensive for what is being offered. I just couldnt be convinced to get an i3 Dual core in 2016 no matter what some of the benchmarks say. Everyone should get the best CPU they can afford. For under 200 AMD still offers viable choices. I have 2 friends with overclocked watercooled 8320's and they are quite happy with them but they did get them back in 2012 or 2013.

As I stated I still have a 4100 id be thrilled to upgrade right now to an 8 core FX.

[Thunderball]

I would still argue for a budget Build the price for performance ratio for the 8320,8320e and 8300 is pretty damn good. The 8350 no or anything higher up in the lineup too expensive for what is being offered. I just couldnt be convinced to get an i3 Dual core in 2016 no matter what some of the benchmarks say. Everyone should get the best CPU they can afford. For under 200 AMD still offers viable choices. I have 2 friends with overclocked watercooled 8320's and they are quite happy with them but they did get them back in 2012 or 2013.

As I stated I still have a 4100 id be thrilled to upgrade right now to an 8 core FX.

If one wants a gaming build i3 is better. You can be convinced or not, but it's reality. And the reality is that AMD CPU dont have a single competitive edge for gaming right now. Think for yourself: overclocked FX-83xx is $140-160 with a $100 water cooler and a more expensive PSU (we're talking about 300W for CPU+mobo here). i5 is $220 and with a $30 air cooler it reaches 4.5Ghz most of the time, which at this point is around 30% faster than 83xx. Power consumption is at 130-140W for CPU+mobo. Motherboard and memory prices are very similar.

[Packing an i5]

If one wants a gaming build i3 is better. You can be convinced or not, but it's reality. And the reality is that AMD CPU dont have a single competitive edge for gaming right now. Think for yourself: overclocked FX-83xx is $140-160 with a $100 water cooler and a more expensive PSU (we're talking about 300W for CPU+mobo here). i5 is $220 and with a $30 air cooler it reaches 4.5Ghz most of the time, which at this point is around 30% faster than 83xx. Power consumption is at 130-140W for CPU+mobo. Motherboard and memory prices are very similar.

The only games I can find where AMD gets wrecked is Grand Theft Auto Five, Project Cars and Ryse son of Rome. Your argument is really based on AM3+ platform is dead the only upgrade path for someone on an 83XX is the outrageous 9370 and 9590.

Totally understandable but at the end of the day in most modern games AMD's 8 core CPUs run them fine and they are cheaper than many things in Intel's lineup. Not to mention some Black Edition AMD cpus now come with the wraith cooler which is adequate for overclocking up to 4.4 Ghz. The i5 6600k comes without any cooler.

[Thunderball]

The only games I can find where AMD gets wrecked is Grand Theft Auto Five, Project Cars and Ryse son of Rome. Your argument is really based on AM3+ platform is dead the only upgrade path for someone on an 83XX is the outrageous 9370 and 9590.

Totally understandable but at the end of the day in most modern games AMD's 8 core CPUs run them fine and they are cheaper than many things in Intel's lineup. Not to mention some Black Edition AMD cpus now come with the wraith cooler which is adequate for overclocking up to 4.4 Ghz. The i5 6600k comes without any cooler.

Not gonna argue with a fanboy, not wasting both mine and your time.

[Packing an i5]

Not gonna argue with a fanboy, not wasting both mine and your time.

I have all the time in the world.

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Guys I don't want to play mediator, please don't bicker at each other I just wanted a few suggestions, not to come back to a MMO version of Jeremy Kyle, thanks for your input though much appreciated.