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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by SirCowdog View Post
    She's a dreadlord anyway, so it wouldn't be out of character.
    She should set up a premade group saying shes found a Doomsayer that will drop the Fel Spreader...

  2. #42
    Quote Originally Posted by anaxie View Post
    Maybe they sould of been less focused on skies and looking at the army of Nathrezim Eredar and Annahilian highest ranking Lords of the Legion Gul'Dan had just summoned infront of them.

    Oh its just 20+ Legion lord nobodies. You know guys like Ticondrius, Mephistroth, Balnazzar, Hakkar the Houndmaster..... These guys are low ranking Legion fodder right? RIGHT?
    Did you watch the cinematic? Varian tells Genn to get Sylvanas to clear the skies because they were being attack from the ground and above, Genn looks up in time to hear the horn blow and the archer slowly walking away from the ridge.

  3. #43
    Quote Originally Posted by Xkiller9000 View Post
    really? they dont see both sides like we do


    to the alliance, horde abandoned us.
    to the horde, they had to pull back
    Horde get to see the entire thing minus some worthless commentary from Genn

    Allaince Get to see NOTHING that happens up top in the cinematic nor do they get a followed up chills video like Horde does for Sylvana's Ascension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Every Pwny View Post
    Did you watch the cinematic? Varian tells Genn to get Sylvanas to clear the skies because they were being attack from the ground and above, Genn looks up in time to hear the horn blow and the archer slowly walking away from the ridge.
    Varian didn't know who the demons were that were in front of him. The players characters do. Be thankful a retreat happened. The only thing that was going to happen was death.

    Gul'dan just summoned some more fodder. To a lore knowing player they will recognize nearly all the noteable lords of the burning legion have just entered the fray. If the Horde didn't retreat I'll give you odds of the Allaince's success. Not good. The Broken shore was a planned Legion ambush rogues learn this because Varians beloved SI:7 has been taken over by a High ranking Legion Dreadlord. So keep in mind. No matter how good the players or allaince or lol... Genn thought they were doing. Gul'dan was enjoying fucking with his playthings. you were dead the moment you landed on the beach.
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  4. #44
    Quote Originally Posted by anaxie View Post
    Varian didn't know who the demons were that were in front of him. The players characters do. Be thankful a retreat happened. The only thing that was going to happen was death.
    It's not really about what people with meta knowledge of the story know because they see both sides. Additionally if Varian, who almost was killed by one of the bats attacking him from the sky in the cutscene, just ignored the things attacking him like you are suggesting, he would have died. He needed the skies clear so they could focus on the ground battle.

    But you can't judge a character based on what you the observer of the story knows, because that's idiotic.

  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by WintersLegion View Post
    Yeah I don't like how they did those Cinematics as when your alliance you don't know what is happening Horde side causing them to retreat but yet the horde still see what happens to the alliance even though they have already retreated.
    I think, in fact, that's the beauty of the cinematics. We, as players, have much knowledge that our characters doesn't. So it's good for once that Blizz forces de "RPG" bit of the game and put the players in different perspectives. Man, everybody here on MMOC was laughing at Thrall for the crawling scene, yet not many people (even Horde) did know he got 3 spaceship lasers in da face.

    I think everybody should stop judging the characters as if they have absolute knowledge of what happens in the Warcraft universe, and think about what those characters really know.

  6. #46
    Quote Originally Posted by Every Pwny View Post
    It's not really about what people with meta knowledge of the story know because they see both sides. Additionally if Varian, who almost was killed by one of the bats attacking him from the sky in the cutscene, just ignored the things attacking him like you are suggesting, he would have died. He needed the skies clear so they could focus on the ground battle.

    But you can't judge a character based on what you the observer of the story knows, because that's idiotic.
    And the Dark Rangers were doing a bangup job. Until they were overwhelmed.

  7. #47
    Quote Originally Posted by Ebalina View Post
    And he is dumb because he starts to assume things without any proof of anything.
    Aka he isn't wise he is just dumb/driven by the hatred for Sylvanas.
    and he should be trustful of Sylvanas becauuuuse? Would you blindly trust her after all she has done? Would that somehow make you "smart" to blindly trust her?

  8. #48
    Quote Originally Posted by anaxie View Post
    And the Dark Rangers were doing a bangup job. Until they were overwhelmed.
    Genn only knows what he saw, which was as soon as Varian needed the skies cleared, they are slowly walking off the ridge. He also knows that Sylvanas is the one that killed his people and destroyed his city, so it's obvious why he doesn't trust her.

  9. #49
    Quote Originally Posted by Missfit View Post
    I think, in fact, that's the beauty of the cinematics. We, as players, have much knowledge that our characters doesn't. So it's good for once that Blizz forces de "RPG" bit of the game and put the players in different perspectives. Man, everybody here on MMOC was laughing at Thrall for the crawling scene, yet not many people (even Horde) did know he got 3 spaceship lasers in da face.

    I think everybody should stop judging the characters as if they have absolute knowledge of what happens in the Warcraft universe, and think about what those characters really know.
    show me thrall lasers to the face please.

  10. #50
    Bitch Pls

  11. #51
    Quote Originally Posted by Every Pwny View Post
    Genn only knows what he saw, which was as soon as Varian needed the skies cleared, they are slowly walking off the ridge.
    Well it doesn't matter what he thinks because 10 seconds laster he should of got a clue when he saw the innumerable amount of demons on the ridge once he boarded the gunship. if he couldn't put 2 and 2 together then hes a fucking idiot.

    My gut feeling is that he keeps the idiot mentality because it's fucking Genn and BOY is his blood going to be boiling when he hears Sylvanas is the Leader of the Horde now.

    Genn is the incarnation of butthurt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gguga12 View Post
    holy fuck ouch

  12. #52
    Quote Originally Posted by Missfit View Post
    I think, in fact, that's the beauty of the cinematics. We, as players, have much knowledge that our characters doesn't. So it's good for once that Blizz forces de "RPG" bit of the game and put the players in different perspectives. Man, everybody here on MMOC was laughing at Thrall for the crawling scene, yet not many people (even Horde) did know he got 3 spaceship lasers in da face.

    I think everybody should stop judging the characters as if they have absolute knowledge of what happens in the Warcraft universe, and think about what those characters really know.
    It's more strange that he was the only leader that seemed injured there and crawling. Baine and Vol'jin were still fighting fine, Sylvanas didn't seem to really notice.

  13. #53
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    Quote Originally Posted by gguga12 View Post
    My thread in fact xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Every Pwny View Post
    It's more strange that he was the only leader that seemed injured there and crawling. Baine and Vol'jin were still fighting fine, Sylvanas didn't seem to really notice.
    Yes that's a problem with the cinematics: during the fight you SEE Sylvanas carrying the leaders one by one with the Val'kyrs, yet later in the cinematic it seems they're back on their original positions. It's kind of strange. But look at the pic above.

  14. #54
    Quote Originally Posted by Feel The Power View Post
    and he should be trustful of Sylvanas becauuuuse? Would you blindly trust her after all she has done? Would that somehow make you "smart" to blindly trust her?
    Because it's a war of the Worlds? Not trusting her now and having a chip on his shoulders is only going to show his ass fuckery once now that she is Warchief.

    She can bring the whole horde down on his head now. Pretty much looks likes its going to happen though.

    I really want to see Nanathos get some... personal time with Genn. To appease his Dark Lady.

  15. #55
    Quote Originally Posted by anaxie View Post
    Well it doesn't matter what he thinks because 10 seconds laster he should of got a clue when he saw the innumerable amount of demons on the ridge once he boarded the gunship. if he couldn't put 2 and 2 together then hes a fucking idiot.
    By the time he saw the demons on the ridge, the horde had already retreated so the demons would have been all over that ridge since he feels they were abandoned and left to die.

  16. #56
    Quote Originally Posted by Every Pwny View Post
    It's more strange that he was the only leader that seemed injured there and crawling. Baine and Vol'jin were still fighting fine, Sylvanas didn't seem to really notice.
    Vol'jin was drapped over Sylvanas horse. He wasn't doing to well actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Every Pwny View Post
    By the time he saw the demons on the ridge, the horde had already retreated so the demons would have been all over that ridge since he feels they were abandoned and left to die.
    It doesn't matter how he feels. Hes the new kid on the block and well. Going after her isn't in his best interests.

    Nevermind her tactical brilliance vs his....... very limited experience is telling.

  17. #57
    Quote Originally Posted by anaxie View Post
    Vol'jin was drapped over Sylvanas horse. He wasn't doing to well actually.
    If you watched the cinematic he doesn't get hit by a laser, he gets stabbed by a felguard and that is after Thrall is crawling around.

    Here is the horde cinematic for you to watch:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE9HVy1vgws

    Also you should watch the alliance cinematic as well to see what Genn sees:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HerNdsh_H-g

    Quote Originally Posted by anaxie View Post
    It doesn't matter how he feels. Hes the new kid on the block and well. Going after her isn't in his best interests.

    Nevermind her tactical brilliance vs his....... very limited experience is telling.
    The only thing that matters is what he knows, which you aren't taking into account. You should never judge a character by what the observer of the story knows, because that's extremely stupid.

  18. #58
    seriously alliance after go over a flying boat cant watch the plateu flooded by BL?
    this is like "lalalalalalla im right you not lalalalalaal"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paula Deen View Post
    Meanwhile on the Horde Side:

    god sylvanas is such a bitch... shes litterally a new lich king, pulling power from the valkyr and old gods and shes judging demon hunters on where they get their powers!? im not saying shes evil, im saying shes a bitch
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