Lich King vs Broken Shores

[Lelkowski]

British Bulldog returns! LONG LIVE TEH KING OF UNDEAD

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Where is it stated that Bolvar, the current body of Lich King is on our side or cares about the legion? Most likely he should had gone mad/bad like Arthas did and cares for us not. But also Metzen probably decides he goes full Grommash Hellscrean and is redeemed, sadly in the future. He just wants to rule Azeroth with the scourge.

[anaxie]

Should had called Bolvar the LICH KING. He would had soloed the broken shores by himself, especially if he has a company of Death Knights with him.

why wasn't the death knights at the broken shore? No one was stopping the Ebon Blade.

Fucking five star shitters

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Well, almost all of those demons were from TBC(Jaraxxus from an earlier WotLK patch, Tichondrius from Warcraft III), and Gul'dan is from Warcraft I chronologically(in his original timeline), so the Lich King could solo them.

Mephistroth has never been in Warcraft or been featured in Warcraft outside a cinematic but was assumed to be the Leader of the Dreadlords after Ticondrius and then Anetheron were "Killed" but then "not Killed" recently.

Mephistroth thus is now god tier status to the shit tier lich king.

[Alvito]

Where is it stated that Bolvar, the current body of Lich King is on our side or cares about the legion? Most likely he should had gone mad/bad like Arthas did and cares for us not. But also Metzen probably decides he goes full Grommash Hellscrean and is redeemed, sadly in the future. He just wants to rule Azeroth with the scourge.

The artifact weapon quest that involve him would suggest he is willing to a small degree to help. He is certainly not the selfless paladin that took up the throne now though. He tolerates the frost mages on their quest like an older cat or dog tolerates a new puppy/kitten. At any point he is just as likely to strike out against us as he is to let us go on our way.

[anaxie]

There is also no examples of a Naga getting it on with a nerubian and yet its possible. There are also no example of a Night Elf getting mugged by Kil'jaeden and yet it could happen. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean its not possible.

What about a Draneie getting it on with an ogre. I have proof!

[OIS]

Mephistroth has never been in Warcraft or been featured in Warcraft outside a cinematic but was assumed to be the Leader of the Dreadlords after Ticondrius and then Anetheron were "Killed" but then "not Killed" recently.

Mephistroth thus is now god tier status to the shit tier lich king.

He was in Warcraft III, where you could only level to 10.

This is confusing game mechanics with lore. Basically the dumbest argument you could ever make.

It's good enough that people, including you, took it seriously.

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I think he will eventually unleash the scourge, hopefully against the legion. He might not care as much about us as he used to as a human, but I think he himself still wants to survive.

[TheCount]

I mean in WC3 the Burning Legion kinda forced Illidan to try and destroy the Frozen Throne. So it would be safe to assume that the Legion and the Scourge are not on the best terms. The Scourge was created to pave the way for the Legion, when that role was no longer needed the Legion saw the Scourge as dead weight(see what I did their).
I think Bolvar would side with us purely for the Scourge's hatred of the Legion.

[Mehrunes]

Source , as far as i know the night elves are immortal and they can be raised , if you are talking about the soul part then you just need to keep their soul from returning to the twisting nether

Good luck with that. Even Frostmourne didn't keep Mal'ganis' soul.

[rogoth]

and the ebon blade.

that's purely a gameplay device, in the lore only tirion knew of what had become of bolvar and the lich king, and as i said, he is now dead and has taken the secret to his grave.

[Mehrunes]

that's purely a gameplay device, in the lore only tirion knew of what had become of bolvar and the lich king, and as i said, he is now dead and has taken the secret to his grave.

Sylvanas knows too.

[Friendlyimmolation]

that's purely a gameplay device, in the lore only tirion knew of what had become of bolvar and the lich king, and as i said, he is now dead and has taken the secret to his grave.

Pretty sure the ebon blade knows as mograine talks about how they try to help him in wod

[Hctaz]

that's purely a gameplay device, in the lore only tirion knew of what had become of bolvar and the lich king, and as i said, he is now dead and has taken the secret to his grave.

Gameplay? So you're telling me that Darian didn't come to Draenor seeking redemption for Bolvar? Or how about the fact that all the death knights of the ebon blade who are currently working under the new Lich King call him Bolvar as well? So the Ebon Blade knows who he is.

[Alvito]

Source , as far as i know the night elves are immortal and they can be raised , if you are talking about the soul part then you just need to keep their soul from returning to the twisting nether

They aren't anymore, when the world tree was destroyed they lost that.

[Hctaz]

Source , as far as i know the night elves are immortal and they can be raised , if you are talking about the soul part then you just need to keep their soul from returning to the twisting nether

Im referring to literally unkillable. You can't kill a demon unless they die inside of the Twisting Nether. Completely immortal.

(Old lore): The Night Elves can die they just don't die from natural causes like sickness or old age. They are semi immortal in that they will never die unless you take a knife to their face.

(Current Lore): The Night Elves also are no longer immortal. When Nordrassil was destroyed they lost the power that Nozdormu bestowed upon it that gave them immortality and even if that power returned when the tree was restored, he has since lost his power and can presumably no longer keep anything immortal.

Either way, they don't have the same restrictions on them that demons do to prevent them from becoming undead. They're a mortal race who were given the power to defy time essentially. Demons never die.... for a price.

[FelPlague]

In the wota trilogy , they mention mountain of demon corpses .

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Illidan got slashed by frostmourne if i recall correctly and he didn´t die

well to be fair, a demon will have a corpse, but it will quickly turn into fire or dust, the wota was a completly differant story with how many demons there was (and i feel so bad about it casue i know they wanna make something that epic... but you just cant in a game like this and not have it be SUPER laggy or annoying...

from what we know demons souls are bound to the nether, so they couldent be ressurected into their bodies easily, as we see with guldan it takes ALOT of fel magic to bring back mannoroth early, and even hes under his own complete control, hes not a mindless zombie

so its possible, but it dependso n the breed of demon, as dreadlords instantyl dissapear, imps ussauly explode, pitlords explode aswell (somewhat not fully)

[Rafoel]

So many people not knowing British Buldog and his LK posts ^^

[Sarethion]

Source , as far as i know the night elves are immortal and they can be raised

The Night Elves were never immortal - they just didn't age, because Nozdormu put a blessing on Nordrassil.

As for the Lich King - he was originally Kil'jaeden's creation.
It's more than likely that Kil'jaeden knows how the Lich King's power works and has prepared some sort of counter-measure if the LK interfered with the invasion.

[Raetary]

Source , as far as i know the night elves are immortal and they can be raised , if you are talking about the soul part then you just need to keep their soul from returning to the twisting nether

frostmourne sucks the souls of its victims in.
arthas killed mal'ganis with frostmourne.
guess who didnt "die" and showed up again in onlsaught harbor?

[Sarethion]

frostmourne sucks the souls of its victims in.
arthas killed mal'ganis with frostmourne.
guess who didnt "die" and showed up again in onlsaught harbor?

True.
But, to be honest, it's kinda funny if you look at it now - Mal'Ganis and other dreadlords worrying about dying and not being like "kill me if you want, I will return anyway"

The magic of retcons.