wait... draenor = a huge resource?

[Not Againnn]

technically, wrathion made a new draenor what wasnt destroyed and carved into outland-- and illidan never came from the alternate timeline kairoz created, so... basically; we get ALL of clean draenor and ALL of azeroth (and perhaps Alternate timeline azeroth?? idk tho) now to use vs the legion?


so wrathion did a good? garrosh was a puppet? this is getting weird. its like the bronze dragonflight is the direct xounter to the legion being able to live within the nether... we can just create copies of worlds at this point and create armies this way, through timelines. just like wrathion did to give us more allies to combat the legion, presumably

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Kairoz didn't create it, it was already there. Also people love it when multi dimensional armies land in their world and try to recruit them into a war with demons. Also the Iron Horde proves the theory useless, you can't account for a race to solely use there new opportunity the travel to different worlds to fight the legion

The Army of Light is a far better outfit for fighting the Legion survivors of legion attacks will prioritize killing the legion over other things

[Christan]

didn't realize wrathion opened up draenor...

but if wrathion gave us two legions to fight not just one, so happy...twice the destruction for azeroth...if one legion breaks draenor into bits n pieces called outlands....
imagine what two could do to azeroth...so happy...inb4 twilight cult helping legion out, to fulfill their last masters predictions

[SaintDingus]

didn't realize wrathion opened up draenor...

but if wrathion gave us two legions to fight not just one, so happy...twice the destruction for azeroth...if one legion breaks draenor into bits n pieces called outlands....
imagine what two could do to azeroth...so happy...inb4 twilight cult helping legion out, to fulfill their last masters predictions

It has already been confirmed that the legion is omni-dimensional. Meaning no matter what reality you go to, the legion there is the same as the original one. The Archimonde we killed in Dreanor is the same one we killed in Hyjal

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two legions

Flat out wrong statement right there. It has been confirmed that only one Legion exists outside of the Warcraft Multiverse.

Regardless of how I feel about that, it is what it is.

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inb4 twilight cult helping legion out, to fulfill their last masters predictions

that doesn't happen in game right? That wouldn't make any sense they are in direct opposition to each other

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Well, thanks to him we got to get rid of Archimonde; so there's that.

As for what the thread is asking:
Yes, basically the draenor, frostwolves, the remants of the iron horde present us an excelent opportunity (as allies in the upcomming expansions), but, considering how people disliked the time/space travel, I highly doubt we will be taking it.

[Teramelle]

didn't realize wrathion opened up draenor...

He masterminded Garrosh's escape to Draenor, from which point Garrosh began working with Grommash; stopping him drinking the demon blood, developing weaponry, the eventual invasion attempt on Azeroth, and everything else in between.

I would say that Wrathion worked with Kairozdormu to plan all this, but I feel as though Wrathion was the one ultimately in charge - whether Kairoz knew it or not.

He had ulterior motives, of course, and none were intended to result in the destruction of Azeroth - as so nearly came to pass - but it was, in effect, his fault.

[Saiona]

Well, thanks to him we got to get rid of Archimonde; so there's that.

As for what the thread is asking:
Yes, basically the draenor, frostwolves, the remants of the iron horde present us an excelent opportunity (as allies in the upcomming expansions), but, considering how people disliked the time/space travel, I highly doubt we will be taking it.

Well maybe... They weren't very clear if Archimonde died in the nether (mythic last phase) or died on Draenor when he casted that spell at Gul'Dan. I'm hoping he's dead for good.

[Christan]

It has already been confirmed that the legion is omni-dimensional. Meaning no matter what reality you go to, the legion there is the same as the original one. The Archimonde we killed in Dreanor is the same one we killed in Hyjal

but we killed him two separate times, so the legion is the same one, but different timelines cause things like, there being two different archimondes. so why can't there be two separate legions, past and present, brought into out current timeline by screwing with dimensions...maybe there will be in fighting between the two legions...who conquers who... maybe we get to kill sargeras twice?

[Venziir]

but we killed him two separate times, so the legion is the same one, but different timelines cause things like, there being two different archimondes. so why can't there be two separate legions, past and present, brought into out current timeline by screwing with dimensions...maybe there will be in fighting between the two legions...who conquers who... maybe we get to kill sargeras twice?

That was the same Archimonde. Demons cannot die unless you kill them in the Nether, that's why he came back. There is but one Legion.

[Qualia]

but we killed him two separate times, so the legion is the same one, but different timelines cause things like, there being two different archimondes. so why can't there be two separate legions, past and present, brought into out current timeline by screwing with dimensions...maybe there will be in fighting between the two legions...who conquers who... maybe we get to kill sargeras twice?

The Archimonde @ Hyjal is the same Archimonde at Draenor. Killing him two separate times doesn't mean much, as the demons' souls can go back to the Twisting Nether and reform new bodies, effectively revive themselves (unless they are killed inside the Nether or any place utterly saturated with Nether's energies). Basically, those aren't two different one, those 2 are the same Archimonde, just revived after Hyjal's death.

If you are wondering if there was a past and present Legion (the same army, just different time), then yes, theoretically there should be. However, why should that matter to them? Number isn't their issue (the one that has been attacking us is just a tiny part of the entire Legion), their issues are their needs to be summoned to get on Azeroth and being bottle-necked at the portals. Bringing their past version together doesn't help them at this (and actually would weaken them instead, based on WoTA triology).

[Not Againnn]

yea, so if there is one legion, with some smart people (us as players) we can theoretically warp to any part of time and mold an army whenever... with there only being one legion but yet an INFINITE number of us; henceforth the infinite dragonflight are good guys???

[Deleted]

yea, so if there is one legion, with some smart people (us as players) we can theoretically warp to any part of time and mold an army whenever... with there only being one legion but yet an INFINITE number of us; henceforth the infinite dragonflight are good guys???

Yeah because getting an infinite number of us to join and aid against the Legion is a real easy and quick task. I think you are mistaking it with the character creation screen in World of Warcraft.

I mean it took us time, effort and resources to convince the AU Draenor factions to join us in our battle and all we got in the end was "if u need us we'll be thar lol!1!!"

[Qualia]

yea, so if there is one legion, with some smart people (us as players) we can theoretically warp to any part of time and mold an army whenever... with there only being one legion but yet an INFINITE number of us; henceforth the infinite dragonflight are good guys???

It's less of an issue whether they are good or bad. The goal of the infinite dragonflight has always been to attempt to prevent a terrible fate falling upon Azeroth. In that sense, their goal is good at least. It's just that the Pantheon & the Bronze Dragonflight generally don't want anyone to mess around with time, whatever reason that might be. As for us, so far, we only clashed with the infinite dragonflight because either (1) the Bronze Dragonflight asked us to or (2) their "better" fate for Azeroth is as bad, if not worse than normal fate for us.

[Spray]

Flat out wrong statement right there. It has been confirmed that only one Legion exists outside of the Warcraft Multiverse.

Regardless of how I feel about that, it is what it is.

This makes sense, since Titans are inter-dimensional as well. This is why Sargeras is always occupied, he is hellbent on purging all of the dimensions and planes from Old God corruption, our planet is just one of many, but also special as it's baby Titan apparently.

[Lucetia]

technically, wrathion made a new draenor what wasnt destroyed and carved into outland-- and illidan never came from the alternate timeline kairoz created, so... basically; we get ALL of clean draenor and ALL of azeroth (and perhaps Alternate timeline azeroth?? idk tho) now to use vs the legion?

You do know that nothing was created at all? It was always there and the doorway was just opened.

[Deleted]

technically, wrathion made a new draenor what wasnt destroyed and carved into outland-- and illidan never came from the alternate timeline kairoz created, so... basically; we get ALL of clean draenor and ALL of azeroth (and perhaps Alternate timeline azeroth?? idk tho) now to use vs the legion?

The WoD Draenor was in a buble i think. So at the moment it's not connected to other alternate universe planet.........yeah AU.....
Warthions Goal was to have a united force. He hoped Garrosh would do that with the Horde......as he saw Garrosh failing he hoped alliance would do it but they just gave a warning........So his next attempt was the Iron Horde.

[Qualia]

This makes sense, since Titans are inter-dimensional as well. This is why Sargeras is always occupied, he is hellbent on purging all of the dimensions and planes from Old God corruption, our planet is just one of many, but also special as it's baby Titan apparently.

Actually, the Titans are not. They do not transcend realities (unlike the demons who do), at least that was how it was the last time Blizzard addressed it.

[Deleted]

This makes sense, since Titans are inter-dimensional as well. This is why Sargeras is always occupied, he is hellbent on purging all of the dimensions and planes from Old God corruption, our planet is just one of many, but also special as it's baby Titan apparently.

The funny thing is, we don't even know anymore if we are the main timeline, or if there is even one, though I lean to there being one on the account of that is one of the two ways that changing the time line works.

You either:

1- Change an event in the past, affecting the future.

or

2- Change an event in the past, creating a new timeline where the result of your change exists separately with your time line remaining unchanged, even in the past.

We are subject to the second I think.