More bang for my buck?

[-Gr-]

I have a really shoddy pc right now, but I have a great keyboard speakers monitor and mouse.
I don't need an OS and I don't really care for an optical drive.
I want something that has room for more upgrades later on, and a case that is easy to get into for cleaning purposes. (I like things to be easy as possible.)
I'd like to know what kind of things I will need to install everything also, Wiring thermal paste etc. What do I need to sit down and get everything put together in one night.
I need wifi and wired as needed for backup.
plenty of USB ports, and at least one HDMI port. (DVI too obviously)
I need to be able to run WoW on ultra and I also do some video editing and streaming.

I'm a huge noob and just need to jump into this and figure everything I can out. I'd love some advice on what to get with my budget.
My budget is $1500 and I want the most bad ass system you can squeeze into that $1500.

[Fascinate]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A Tomahawk AC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($160.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($439.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout Edition w/ Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($121.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Fractal Design GP14-BK 68.4 CFM 140mm Fan ($14.98 @ Newegg)
Other: H5 Ultimate ($46.99)
Total: $1517.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-03 15:08 EDT-0400

All from newegg so you dont have to order from multiple sites, case is really really easy to clean even has a bottom dust filter removable from the front. Everything you would need is included in these parts. The extra fan is for the intake of the case (its same fan that comes with case, but case only ships with 1). Motherboard has AC wireless built in and 6 USB ports in the back, its one of the only ones i could find at a reasonable price. If you got any questions shoot

[-Gr-]

That all looks really really great!

I tried the pcpartspicker and came out with like 1700..lol

I have a question on overclocking, is it something I should do or is it ok to just use everything as is?

[Fascinate]

That all looks really really great!

I tried the pcpartspicker and came out with like 1700..lol

I have a question on overclocking, is it something I should do or is it ok to just use everything as is?

Definitely worth it, its very easy to do and these parts are all built with overclocking in mind (in fact intel does not ship K series CPU's with CPU coolers as they know people are going to buy aftermarket ones for overclocking). If you just want to focus on building at first thats fine, get bored one day and research how to overclock z170 with msi motherboards. There are "preset" overclocking modes in the bios but its best to manually do this, presets will do the trick tho if you dont wanna fiddle.

I will say dont bother with overclocking GPU's, they come out of the box (especially the model i linked) pretty close to the max overclock possible, its just how GPU's work these days.

[Thunderball]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BK 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A GAMING M5 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($177.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($71.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($159.07 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1070 8GB Video Card ($454.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro M ATX Mid Tower Case ($85.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($92.98 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: Intel 7260HMWDTX1 PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($43.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Phanteks PH-F140SP_BBK 82.1 CFM 140mm Fan ($15.98 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Phanteks PH-F140SP_BBK 82.1 CFM 140mm Fan ($15.98 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Phanteks PH-F140SP_BBK 82.1 CFM 140mm Fan ($15.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $1499.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-03 16:52 EDT-0400

[Nakotsu]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A Tomahawk AC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($160.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($439.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout Edition w/ Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($121.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Fractal Design GP14-BK 68.4 CFM 140mm Fan ($14.98 @ Newegg)
Other: H5 Ultimate ($46.99)
Total: $1517.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-03 15:08 EDT-0400

All from newegg so you dont have to order from multiple sites, case is really really easy to clean even has a bottom dust filter removable from the front. Everything you would need is included in these parts. The extra fan is for the intake of the case (its same fan that comes with case, but case only ships with 1). Motherboard has AC wireless built in and 6 USB ports in the back, its one of the only ones i could find at a reasonable price. If you got any questions shoot

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($344.99 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.38 @ OutletPC)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste ($6.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($149.39 @ B&H)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2133 Memory ($146.14 @ Amazon)
Storage: OCZ Vector 180 960GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($338.34 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 6GB GAMING Video Card ($249.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Deepcool TESSERACT SW ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($107.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case Fan: Cooler Master SickleFlow 69.7 CFM 120mm Fan ($3.34 @ Newegg)
Total: $1411.43
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-03 16:59 EDT-0400


You can basically increase to 64gb ram if you want. Overclocking not necessary but might be worth it. And with this setup you can go on graphic setting 7 or 8 on wow.

[-Gr-]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($349.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI Z170A Tomahawk AC ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($62.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($160.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB FTW Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($439.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout Edition w/ Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($121.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Fractal Design GP14-BK 68.4 CFM 140mm Fan ($14.98 @ Newegg)
Other: H5 Ultimate ($46.99)
Total: $1517.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-03 15:08 EDT-0400

All from newegg so you dont have to order from multiple sites, case is really really easy to clean even has a bottom dust filter removable from the front. Everything you would need is included in these parts. The extra fan is for the intake of the case (its same fan that comes with case, but case only ships with 1). Motherboard has AC wireless built in and 6 USB ports in the back, its one of the only ones i could find at a reasonable price. If you got any questions shoot

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($328.01 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($39.30 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($144.82 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($74.04 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial BX200 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($78.06 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($157.95 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($429.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout Edition w/ Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($124.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($113.02 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($30.45 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($29.99)
Case Fan: Fractal Design GP14-BK 68.4 CFM 140mm Fan ($22.27 @ Amazon)
Other: H5 ultimate ($46.99)
Total: $1619.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-19 01:10 EDT-0400
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-19 01:07 EDT-0400

Would I be ok with two ssd? so I could run my os from one and save the other for games etc?
I'm kinda having fun with being completely overwhelmed with how much I don't know about this stuff, but daddy needs a new hobby.
When I end up building this rig, where would I get all my drivers etc?

[Thunderball]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($328.01 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($39.30 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($144.82 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($74.04 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial BX200 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($78.06 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($157.95 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card ($429.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R5 Blackout Edition w/ Window ATX Mid Tower Case ($124.98 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($113.02 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($30.45 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter: Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($29.99)
Case Fan: Fractal Design GP14-BK 68.4 CFM 140mm Fan ($22.27 @ Amazon)
Other: H5 ultimate ($46.99)
Total: $1619.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-19 01:10 EDT-0400
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-08-19 01:07 EDT-0400

Would I be ok with two ssd? so I could run my os from one and save the other for games etc?
I'm kinda having fun with being completely overwhelmed with how much I don't know about this stuff, but daddy needs a new hobby.
When I end up building this rig, where would I get all my drivers etc?

BX200 SSD are really bad. Also, you should get a better and smaller SSD (which is 850 EVO in this case) for OS and main games and then a worse one for storage. Smart move would be getting a HDD for storage, you save about $100 while not losing any performance. You can save 25$ just on the color of your case and about $20 on the overkill PSU you have. Everything else is fine.

[Packing an i5]

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Nq9Dcc

Total: $1157.26

That leaves you money left over for a monitor, new headset whatever maybe a Fan Controller module.

If concerned about energy consumption swap out the 9590 220w for the cheaper 8370 125w or 8370E 95w and a moderate overclock to match the speed of the 9590.

[Denpepe]

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Nq9Dcc

Total: $1157.26

That leaves you money left over for a monitor, new headset whatever maybe a Fan Controller module.

If concerned about energy consumption swap out the 9590 220w for the cheaper 8370 125w or 8370E 95w and a moderate overclock to match the speed of the 9590.

Don't buy this AMD stuff, waste of money, intel atm is better value for money at every price point especially for MMO's like wow due to far, far superior IPC.

[Thunderball]

http://pcpartpicker.com/list/Nq9Dcc

Total: $1157.26

That leaves you money left over for a monitor, new headset whatever maybe a Fan Controller module.

If concerned about energy consumption swap out the 9590 220w for the cheaper 8370 125w or 8370E 95w and a moderate overclock to match the speed of the 9590.

Just ignore this guy, he's a fanboy.

[Packing an i5]

In all seriousness in this day in Age if you can afford it

i5 6600k Skylake or Better. Don't get trapped into an older socket. You want a decent motherboard if you plan to overclock. Buy the best cpu you can afford. Don't skimp out on the Case. You want something reliable, sturdy, good airflow. A lot of the cheap cases don't support liquid cooling or even have 2.5 inch bays for SSD's. That's another thing in this day and age you want an SSD for the Operating system and no reason not to because there are some available so cheap now it doesn't have to be a Samsung.

For Graphics 1070 or 1080. Can't afford those then I recommend AMD GPU like the RX 480 or RX 470 or anything in the R9 Series.

The only thing you can really future proof is the Case and the Power Supply. The manufacturers of everything else do a Refresh on their hardware for significant improvements or new technology all together.

When the i5 6600k isn't on sale its 229 or 239 $ AMDs stuff is cheaper but not by much. If I were building today and buying for a new platform it would ideally be skylake.


It is hard to consider AMD Platform right now because even the i3 outperforms the highest end 8 core processors AMD vendors and the Intel stuff has much better power consumption. Current AMD AM3+ and FM2 boards do not support DDR4 Memory or PCie 3.0 except the expensive Asus Sabertooth board. Worst of all the 8350 is still 160 in 2016. Let's call that the current flagship processor for AMD it is the most well received product they offer on amazon and newegg.
Might want to consider waiting a few months because AMD Zen Cpu's are coming out and Intel is manufacturing new kaby lake 10nm chips when this happens it will force a price cut on all the old stuff. If you really want to build today then yeah i5/i7 Skylake is the way to go for your platform.

[-Gr-]

BX200 SSD are really bad. Also, you should get a better and smaller SSD (which is 850 EVO in this case) for OS and main games and then a worse one for storage. Smart move would be getting a HDD for storage, you save about $100 while not losing any performance. You can save 25$ just on the color of your case and about $20 on the overkill PSU you have. Everything else is fine.

alright thanks for the heads up, any suggestions for my HDD?
And would this power supply be overkill still if I wanted to add liquid cooling and or LED fans or any other kinds of LED light etc?

[Thunderball]

alright thanks for the heads up, any suggestions for my HDD?
And would this power supply be overkill still if I wanted to add liquid cooling and or LED fans or any other kinds of LED light etc?

650W is more than enough if you dont want to run SLI in the future. Actually 600 is enough, but all decent 80+ Gold PSU series dont have that option, only 550>650>750. For HDD this for 1TB option and this for 2TB option.

[-Gr-]

650W is more than enough if you dont want to run SLI in the future. Actually 600 is enough, but all decent 80+ Gold PSU series dont have that option, only 550>650>750. For HDD this for 1TB option and this for 2TB option.

ok cool thanks.

If I were to also buy a monitor what would you recommend? I'm thinking about upgrading to something bigger, also I hear altrawide looks really nice. Is there anything I need to know about monitors and what games I'll be playing or is it straight forward and just get whatever?

[Thunderball]

ok cool thanks.

If I were to also buy a monitor what would you recommend? I'm thinking about upgrading to something bigger, also I hear altrawide looks really nice. Is there anything I need to know about monitors and what games I'll be playing or is it straight forward and just get whatever?

Some games dont support ultrawide resolutions. Also if you're going for 144Hz monitor take note that GTX 1070 wont be able to deliver FPS needed reach the maximum effect on that resolution.

[hellhamster]

BX200 SSD are really bad.

That feel when I recommended this to a irl friend because it was like 40 eurodollars cheaper than the 850. Oh well, can't be right all the time

[Thunderball]

That feel when I recommended this to a irl friend because it was like 40 eurodollars cheaper than the 850. Oh well, can't be right all the time

Well it's the renowned manufacturer, it's not surprise that people think it's good.

[-Gr-]

Some games dont support ultrawide resolutions. Also if you're going for 144Hz monitor take note that GTX 1070 wont be able to deliver FPS needed reach the maximum effect on that resolution.

But if I were to buy a 144hz would it restrict me to anything or could I still play all games like a normal 60hz monitor? and if it won't support the entire 144hz would a gtx 1070 still provide more on it than it would on a 60hz?

[Thunderball]

But if I were to buy a 144hz would it restrict me to anything or could I still play all games like a normal 60hz monitor? and if it won't support the entire 144hz would a gtx 1070 still provide more on it than it would on a 60hz?

If you want to limit screen tearing you want your refresh rate to match your FPS, use G-Sync/Freesync or both. GTX 1070 will be able to provide more than 60 FPS with Vsync off, but the effect of a higher refresh rate starts to be apparent at around 90-95 FPS.