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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanjin View Post
    mythic only? i knew it.
    so the mythic only shit continues.
    Why does it matter if it is called Mythic, Heroic or Normal? They can just call it a Normal dungeon and make it insanely hard. Having a really challenging dungeon also makes it relevant for all those small groups who want a meaningful challenge without having to raid.

    If you don't like it, don't do it. Just wait for LFR to grab some loot.
    Quote Originally Posted by Osmeric View Post
    The main function of Mythic mode for most players is to act as a reminder that, compared to that 1%, they suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gloriandus View Post
    I guess the best way to push people to do Mythic is to make numerous things Mythic-only.
    This is how they pushed rated BG's. YOU WILL LIKE RATED BG'S OR WE WILL MAKE SURE YOU CAN'T PROGRESS!

    The rest of the quotes are from the page, not you specifically.

    If you have been really unlucky and want your set bonus, this gives you another chance to go and get that last piece.
    Because let's add MORE RNG to unlucky people... that'll do it!

    The team would like to get back to a place where if you are a PuG leader, you are looking at your raid comp and saying, "We could really use a Hunter, let's look for a good hunter", rather than "Let's look for any ranged DPS, especially the flavor of the month that is 2% better and thus is the only viable one". Obviously this isn't the case literally right now, but it is what the team is thinking about and would like to move towards over the course of patches and future content.
    I hope they don't fuck this up, like they usually do, and take the "we can only get a hunter". I'd be happy with "we could really use a hunter" but only if they added "but if we HAD to we could also take a laser turkey or warlock".

    Melee may be a little stronger in Mythic+ dungeons while ranged are a little stronger in raids, which is fine as long as the gap isn't too large.
    So long as nothing is ever again like the invasion crap we're seeing now where the melee get roflstomped.

    In Warlords, it felt like Foundry came out too soon in relation to Highmaul for a lot of guilds and raid groups. The top end raiders were ready for it, but tons of other players were still working on it. Foundry came out and they felt rushed into that.
    This would be less of a deal if they kept pumping out content at the same rate. People would get used to it. They stopped making new content and, basically, quite working on WoD and focused primarily on Legion which is what rubbed a lot of people wrong and is also why I don't trust their promise for more content.

    The old dungeon structure didn't give the team a good way to add dungeons that fit into the existing ecosystem of dungeons without stepping on the old ones.
    Bullshit. Dragon Soul catch-up dungeons worked just fine and let newer players get an entry into raiding much quicker.

    Three difficulties plus Raid Finder means that there is a raid difficulty for all of the different groups. Normal for friends, family, and PuGs. Heroic for guilds that are formed for the purpose of raiding, Mythic for the extremely hardcore players.
    I know going Mythic definitely destroyed a lot of competition on Ghostlands. Merging 2x 10-man groups was disastrous and the majority of the competitive guilds died from it. The aftermath turned into no one wanted any harder than normal and occasionally heroic because finding people with the gear for Mythic was a nightmare and gearing people up almost always ended up badly when someone left.

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    "In Warlords, it felt like Foundry came out too soon in relation to Highmaul for a lot of guilds and raid groups. The top end raiders were ready for it, but tons of other players were still working on it. Foundry came out and they felt rushed into that."

    Other way round Blizzard. Foundry couldn't have come out sooner so we could say bye bye to that shithole that was Highmaul.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    Who cares? You can still go do LFR for your free epics that take 0 effort to get.
    keep thinking its about gear.
    foolish white knights
    Anemo: traveler, Sucrose
    Pyro: Yanfei, Amber, diluc, xiangling, thoma, Xinyan, Bennett
    Geo: Noelle, Ningguang, Yun Jin, Gorou
    Hydro: Barbara, Zingqiu, Ayato
    Cyro: Shenhe, Kaeya, Chongyun, Diona, Ayaka, Rosaria
    Electro: Fischl, Lisa, Miko, Kujou, Raiden, Razor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanjin View Post
    keep thinking its about gear.
    foolish white knights
    Ok then what it is about then? Is someone mad because they actually have to make their own group and walk all the way there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fayenoor View Post
    Why does it matter if it is called Mythic, Heroic or Normal? They can just call it a Normal dungeon and make it insanely hard. Having a really challenging dungeon also makes it relevant for all those small groups who want a meaningful challenge without having to raid.

    If you don't like it, don't do it. Just wait for LFR to grab some loot.
    its not about the loot. so fuck off.
    Anemo: traveler, Sucrose
    Pyro: Yanfei, Amber, diluc, xiangling, thoma, Xinyan, Bennett
    Geo: Noelle, Ningguang, Yun Jin, Gorou
    Hydro: Barbara, Zingqiu, Ayato
    Cyro: Shenhe, Kaeya, Chongyun, Diona, Ayaka, Rosaria
    Electro: Fischl, Lisa, Miko, Kujou, Raiden, Razor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanjin View Post
    its not about the loot. so fuck off.
    Wow. Someone is angry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    Ok then what it is about then? Is someone mad because they actually have to make their own group and walk all the way there?
    nope. how about if you dont like my comments. you just fuck off and ignore it.
    Anemo: traveler, Sucrose
    Pyro: Yanfei, Amber, diluc, xiangling, thoma, Xinyan, Bennett
    Geo: Noelle, Ningguang, Yun Jin, Gorou
    Hydro: Barbara, Zingqiu, Ayato
    Cyro: Shenhe, Kaeya, Chongyun, Diona, Ayaka, Rosaria
    Electro: Fischl, Lisa, Miko, Kujou, Raiden, Razor

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Zanjin View Post
    its not about the loot. so fuck off.
    so then its about your skill, you need to get good then

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    Yes, the green Orc in this deleted scene is indeed Grom Hellscream.
    Good! He is beautiful while green!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanjin View Post
    nope. how about if you dont like my comments. you just fuck off and ignore it.
    So skill then? You are too bad to run the dungeons on Mythic? It's ok we can't all be good enough to run Mythic dungeons mate. I had trouble at first with some classes as well then got a bit better with them

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    Wow. Someone is angry.
    assumptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eleccybubb View Post
    So skill then? You are too bad to run the dungeons on Mythic?
    it has nothing to do with skill or loot.
    Anemo: traveler, Sucrose
    Pyro: Yanfei, Amber, diluc, xiangling, thoma, Xinyan, Bennett
    Geo: Noelle, Ningguang, Yun Jin, Gorou
    Hydro: Barbara, Zingqiu, Ayato
    Cyro: Shenhe, Kaeya, Chongyun, Diona, Ayaka, Rosaria
    Electro: Fischl, Lisa, Miko, Kujou, Raiden, Razor

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanjin View Post
    assumptions.

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    it has nothing to do with skill or loot.

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    it has nothing to do with skill or loot.
    Ok then explain why Mythic only is an issue for you personally then otherwise we can only make these assumptions. Share your view on the matter.

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    For the people who are whining about mythic only:

    Mythic 0 is not hard. At all. It is basically Heroic mode with +8% damage and health buff to adds and bosses. There is fundamentally no difference except that you have to go in as a premade.

    If you cannot do so much as that, then you do not deserve to see the content, let alone complain about it.

  15. #35
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaira View Post
    Awww Im well chuffed at mythic only things it give more stuff to do ina sence when content is harder, also the deleted scene was nice i liked it, I did enjoy the movie alot but scenes like this should not have been removed.
    Yeah I'll be taking a swing at it maybe do 3 bosses a day and take it easy with some friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guyviroth View Post
    For the people who are whining about mythic only:

    Mythic 0 is not hard. At all. It is basically Heroic mode with +8% damage and health buff to adds and bosses. There is fundamentally no difference except that you have to go in as a premade.

    If you cannot do so much as that, then you do not deserve to see the content, let alone complain about it.
    Basic Mythic is piss easy end of. Everyone and their grandma could do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guyviroth View Post
    For the people who are whining about mythic only:

    Mythic 0 is not hard. At all. It is basically Heroic mode with +8% damage and health buff to adds and bosses. There is fundamentally no difference except that you have to go in as a premade.

    If you cannot do so much as that, then you do not deserve to see the content, let alone complain about it.
    so you enjoy backwards thinking?
    Anemo: traveler, Sucrose
    Pyro: Yanfei, Amber, diluc, xiangling, thoma, Xinyan, Bennett
    Geo: Noelle, Ningguang, Yun Jin, Gorou
    Hydro: Barbara, Zingqiu, Ayato
    Cyro: Shenhe, Kaeya, Chongyun, Diona, Ayaka, Rosaria
    Electro: Fischl, Lisa, Miko, Kujou, Raiden, Razor

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Zanjin View Post
    so you enjoy backwards thinking?
    Still waiting for your reason why you have an issue with Karazhan being Mythic only. Would love to hear it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guyviroth View Post
    For the people who are whining about mythic only:

    Mythic 0 is not hard. At all. It is basically Heroic mode with +8% damage and health buff to adds and bosses. There is fundamentally no difference except that you have to go in as a premade.

    If you cannot do so much as that, then you do not deserve to see the content, let alone complain about it.

    This. People aren't used to thinking of mythic 5 mans this way, but remember that since the keystone system escalates difficulty over time, that this means the entry level of mythic has to bend closer to heroic by nature. This allows many more players into the system so they can progress.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanjin View Post
    assumptions.

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    it has nothing to do with skill or loot.
    So the problem is literally just that it is called Mythic? It could be called Legendacularly Impossibru for all the worth a title gives.

    Mythic-only just lets people know its tuned harder than normal dungeons, rather than have them go in there expecting a cakewalk and then shitposting on the forums when they can't clear it.
    Originally Posted by Blizzard Entertainment
    Because fuck you, that's why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zanjin View Post
    mythic only? i knew it.
    so the mythic only shit continues.
    Heaven forbid there be unique rewards for doing harder content. Everything should reward the same stuff regardless of the difficulty. It's not like this game is a meritocracy or anything..........

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