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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by primalmatter View Post
    Anyone else getting tired of "Ten sad pics that will make you say fuck having borders and shit?"

    Bringing him in is a mistake. Bringing any of them in has so far proven to been a mistake.

    Why not instead of inviting this garbage into our boarders we give people a free plan ticket to go to where he lives and make it a better place?

    Would be cheaper and rid us of our fools. Seems like a win-win.
    I would be a billionaire, if I had a dime every time you cry about immigrants...

  2. #62
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuntantee View Post
    That's American narrative /facepalm. We have a @Skroe wannabe here. Dude, you are not an American, you are a Russian .
    We'd gladly joined Americans on various issues(and keep offering them that)! It's Americans who don't want to share, clinging to their dream of uni-polar world where they are sole judges of what is right.

    This is the most retarded post I've read from you. It's much better if you drop 70's era American "bringer of democracy" narrative, and just say, like Skreo does, that "we defend our interest, and lost lifes aren't important".
    Hey, i never mentioned "democracy". It's just that any legitimate ruler is better then destruction of country, including brutal dictators.

    Obviously it is in our interest to not create another terrorist hotspot there. But if West would offer actual alternative plan we could agree with we would drop Assad in a heartbeat. We kept asking "So, Assad goes... and then?" ... and heard no good answers, supposedly everything would magically turn peachy after.

    That's not going to work after we've seen Libya.

    So, we're going with our solution that we already used with our own jihadis, and that worked for us.

  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by bladebarrier View Post
    You can start from here:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qatar-Turkey_pipeline

    Then, the story is all over internet. Just google Qatar pipeline and youll find dozens of articles.
    Seems likely that syria had plans of their own. Especially after finding gas fields near homs. That must be why they refused Qatar in 2009 and signed a deal with Iran in 2011. They might have had plans of their own.

    In July 2011, the governments of Syria, Iran and Iraq signed an historic gas pipeline energy agreement which went largely unnoticed in the midst of the NATO-Saudi-Qatari war to remove Assad. The pipeline, envisioned to cost $10 billion and take three years to complete, would run from the Iranian Port Assalouyeh near the South Pars gas field in the Persian Gulf, to Damascus in Syria via Iraq territory. The agreement would make Syria the center of assembly and production in conjunction with the reserves of Lebanon. This is a geopolitically strategic space that geographically opens for the first time, extending from Iran to Iraq, Syria and Lebanon.[5] As Asia Times correspondent Pepe Escobar put it, “The Iran-Iraq-Syria pipeline – if it’s ever built – would solidify a predominantly Shi’ite axis through an economic, steel umbilical cord.”[6]
    Shortly after signing with Iran and Iraq, on August 16, 2011, Bashar al-Assad’s Syrian Ministry of Oil announced the discovery of a gas well in the Area of Qarah in the Central Region of Syria near Homs. Gazprom, with Assad in power, would be a major investor or operator of the new gas fields in Syria. [7] Iran ultimately plans to extend the pipeline from Damascus to Lebanon’s Mediterranean port where it would be delivered to the huge EU market. Syria would buy Iranian gas along with a current Iraqi agreement to buy Iranian gas from Iran’s part of South Pars field.[8]
    Qatar, today the world’s largest exporter of LNG, largely to Asia, wants the same EU market that Iran and Syria eye. For that, they would build pipelines to the Mediterranean. Here is where getting rid of the pro-Iran Assad is essential. In 2009 Qatar approached Bashar al-Assad to propose construction of a gas pipeline from Qatar’s north Field through Syria on to Turkey and to the EU. Assad refused, citing Syria’s long friendly relations with Russia and Gazprom. That refusal combined with the Iran-Iraq-Syria gas pipeline agreement in 2011 ignited the full-scale Saudi and Qatari assault on Assad’s power, financing al Qaeda terrorists, recruits of Jihadist fanatics willing to kill Alawite and Shi’ite “infidels” for $100 a month and a Kalishnikov

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuntantee View Post
    I would be a billionaire, if I had a dime every time you cry about immigrants...
    I am a millionaire from investing in funeral homes in France.

    "Truck" attacks are good for something.

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    Probably just flour and ketchup.

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  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Tiase View Post
    #RussiaDidNothingWrong

    But seriously, of course it's Russia that helps Assad. A helping hand from one dictator to another. Unfortunately this will be the same situation as the kid that was dead on the beach. It will create headlines, people will share it and talk about how sad it makes them and after a while everyone will forget it.
    Just like the massacres people only seem to care about things for a few weeks top.

    Makes you apathetic after a while.

    Thank god I enjoy black humor.

  8. #68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    It's Americans who don't want to share, clinging to their dream of uni-polar world.

    So, we're going with our solution that we already used with our own jihadis, and that worked for us.
    Unipolar world is a reality, not a dream. And it's not going change any time soon. Soon being our lifetimes.

    And Russia did not destroy jihadists in a warfare, as Nevzorov correctly points out. You bought one faction of them (Kadyrovs) who were also in the business of beheaidng Russians soliders. They were the ones who actively went out for other similarily extreme groups.
    Dagestan is still in a pretty much permanent Counter Terrorism Operation mode.

  9. #69
    Its funny how shalcker russia warrioring thinks the world will change its view of russia from mmo champ forums.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tennisace View Post
    In other countries like Canada the population has chosen to believe in hope, peace and tolerance. This we can see from the election of the Honourable Justin Trudeau who stood against the politics of hate and divisiveness.

  10. #70
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djalil View Post
    Seems likely that syria had plans of their own. Especially after finding gas fields near homs. That must be why they refused Qatar in 2009 and signed a deal with Iran in 2011. They might have had plans of their own.
    Also don't forget Iran and Russia had find a new friendship in recent months. That will put Israel on edge, especially with the weakening US presence in the area now around office administration change.
    Interesting enough, Turkey is also leaning towards close cooperation with Russia who in the context of the failed Qatar pipeline would seem their enemy.
    I suppose the Turks got pissed off waiting on the US to resolve the situation with Assad and decided to change sides. If they drop support for ISIS and increase military pressure on Syrian kurdi rebel groups, the war in Syria is at it's end.
    And no more heartbreaking pictures of lifeless children laying face-down in the sand. At least not from Syria.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyberowl View Post
    One could say trying to paint everything as propaganda is propaganda too. Like Putin and Erdogan love to do.

    Would you say every war photograph was only doing it for political reasons?
    There's no other reason to make war photos. Be it media sensationalism, propaganda or some hippy with an agenda - it's all fucking political. Because war is political.

    Just look at it this way - had this boy died like many before him - would there be a photo of him in the media? No. So why's it exist for the live one? Politics.
    All right, gentleperchildren, let's review. The year is 2024 - that's two-zero-two-four, as in the 21st Century's perfect vision - and I am sorry to say the world has become a pussy-whipped, Brady Bunch version of itself, run by a bunch of still-masked clots ridden infertile senile sissies who want the Last Ukrainian to die so they can get on with the War on China, with some middle-eastern genocide on the side

  12. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Elim Garak View Post
    There's no other reason to make war photos. Be it media sensationalism, propaganda or some hippy with an agenda - it's all fucking political. Because war is political.

    Just look at it this way - had this boy died like many before him - would there be a photo of him in the media? No. So why's it exist for the live one? Politics.
    Meh if its such a tragedy I am sure Israel will take him in :^)

  13. #73
    Quote Originally Posted by Kuntantee View Post
    You should, as a human being, be a bit worried about the destruction brought to Syria by the US tho. It's similar to Afghanistan which the US' destruction is unparalleled.
    Fixed that for ya.

  14. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by bladebarrier View Post
    Also don't forget Iran and Russia had find a new friendship in recent months. That will put Israel on edge, especially with the weakening US presence in the area now around office administration change.
    Interesting enough, Turkey is also leaning towards close cooperation with Russia who in the context of the failed Qatar pipeline would seem their enemy.
    I suppose the Turks got pissed off waiting on the US to resolve the situation with Assad and decided to change sides. If they drop support for ISIS and increase military pressure on Syrian kurdi rebel groups, the war in Syria is at it's end.
    And no more heartbreaking pictures of lifeless children laying face-down in the sand. At least not from Syria.
    Turks got pissed of USA helping fucking Kurdish terrorists using our own fucking base. I hope Turkey changes side on this issue, and crush Kurdish terrorists together with Russia and Assad and protect Syria's territorial integrity.

  15. #75
    Quote Originally Posted by Sentynel View Post
    Fixed that for ya.
    Not really read a history book.

    You clearly have a very flimsy grasp of what occurred in the region...

  16. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by Sentynel View Post
    Fixed that for ya.
    Yeah, no. USA employed proxies in Afghanistan, which didn't have capacity to conduct aerial bombing, and destroy cities, agricultural sites, pretty much everything. That's what Russians did.

  17. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Taustins View Post
    Unipolar world is a reality, not a dream. And it's not going change any time soon. Soon being our lifetimes.
    Uni-polar world is a dream that wasn't true even when "End of History" was proclaimed; and it didn't become true to this day.

    And Russia did not destroy jihadists in a warfare, as Nevzorov correctly points out. You bought one faction of them (Kadyrovs) who were also in the business of beheaidng Russians soliders. They were the ones who actively went out for other similarily extreme groups.
    That's exactly what we're trying to do in Syria if you would follow our diplomacy there.

    We had to kill quite a few hardliners before we got to those receptive to cooperation, however.

    Dagestan is still in a pretty much permanent Counter Terrorism Operation mode.
    Threat is still a lot more contained at the moment then Syrian situation. If we can get there we'll proclaim situation "mostly solved"; at least there will be no significant refugee flows.

  18. #78
    Quote Originally Posted by ParanoiD84 View Post
    Looks like he takes it pretty good, seen quite a few surviving children of strikes and it's pretty similar, loads of dust and some blood. Good that he made it and i hope hes parents made it to.
    When a boy about 5 years of age has the 2000 yard stare, "taking it good" is not exactly the phrase I'd use.
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  19. #79
    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Uni-polar world is a dream that wasn't true even when "End of History" was proclaimed; and it didn't become true to this day.
    Unipolar world can be very well the period between the collapse of USSR and rise of new Russia (post-Putin). It's brief, but it is what it is.

  20. #80
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuntantee View Post
    Turks got pissed of USA helping fucking Kurdish terrorists using our own fucking base. I hope Turkey changes side on this issue, and crush Kurdish terrorists together with Russia and Assad and protect Syria's territorial integrity.
    No one can fix your problem with the Kurds. They are 30% of your population and you oppress them like hell. Entire city is still under siege on your own soil by your own police force. Shooting at wounded people trying to make it to the ambulance. This cannot go unanswered.

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