It makes all the sense in the world when she lost her friends in the Theramore bombing, and she's now driven by revenge just like Genn. Perhaps you think it makes no sense since you as a player use meta-knowledge as an all-knowing, all-wise entity to pass judgment on character's decisions. But characters in a story don't work that way. Same with IRL people get into conflicts over simple misunderstandings all the time.
At the end of the day, don't try to think as a player who knows everything, but as that character. Same with all the posts condemning the Alliance for not knowing what happened with the Horde at the Broken Shore. How were they supposed to know? Then the story will make more sense to you.
Last edited by corebit; 2016-08-20 at 01:59 AM.
When we looked at the relics of the precursors, we saw the height civilization can attain.
When we looked at their ruins, we marked the danger of that height.
- Keeper Annals
So you think it's 'meta-knowledge' to expect a character who always questioned and criticized the untethered hatred of the Horde to maybe question her own hatred of an entire faction when most of that faction helped her to remove the person that perpetrated the crimes against her? Especially when years have passed since the events in question? You're perfectly fine with her new hypocrisy and closed-mindedness? Her irrationality is completely excused because a shitty warchief did some terrible things, regardless of the fact that he was clearly doing horrible things to his own people too?
Why would Jaina think that the other Horde are "helping her" against Garrosh, when those same Horde stood around doing nothing to oppose Garrosh in the bombing of Theramore? From her view, they are all "helping" out of opportunistic intention to take power for themselves.
When we looked at the relics of the precursors, we saw the height civilization can attain.
When we looked at their ruins, we marked the danger of that height.
- Keeper Annals
She should do that because that's what she's always done. Remember the Wrathgate? She didn't immediately jump to hating the Horde or even the Forsaken. She remained level-headed, asked questions, and was told that it was a betrayal from within. There we go, problem sorted. That's why it would be fine if they had just made her crazy, at least that would have made some level of sense. But no, now it's just that she's changed because it was her ass on the line this time which just makes her look weak and unprincipled.
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^This too. If Baine sends a messenger to warn you about the attack then it's a fair bet there's some disagreement among the leaders of the Horde.
Which is akin to doing nothing to stop Garrosh. And what was Jaina supposed to with that warning? Tensions between the factions were already going strong at that time. Should she dismantle all Theramore's protections at once and risk other attacks? Evacuate Theramore? Which they most likely didn't have enough time to do that.
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The difference between this and Wrathgate was all her friends weren't turned to dust before her eyes.
If you can remain "level-headed and ask questions" if your family and friends all suffer the same fate, then I'll call you saint.
When we looked at the relics of the precursors, we saw the height civilization can attain.
When we looked at their ruins, we marked the danger of that height.
- Keeper Annals
Exactly, weak and unprincipled. It completely shits all over what her character used to be about and just shows that she only did it because it was never really her or her loved ones on the line. She's a coward and a hypocrite (as well as now a shitty character). Like I said before, it's been years since the bombing so it makes her look even worse that she hasn't used any of that time to reflect on her hatred or question the information she's been going on.
Let me put it this way: do you think it would be fair for someone who lost family members in 9/11 to still vehemently hate all Muslims? Same deal.
Im just sad that they're making her out to be a bad guy..
It's kinda obvious too, that she'll just be another plot-point we're going to have to "deal with"
Maybe She's a dreadlord? and the "real" jaina is locked up somewhere..
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If she's not a dreadlord, and they're actually going with the "oh noes, we need to stop her" route. at least let her kill thrall before she dies..
I've no idea what to write here.
Yeah how dare a character be mad when their homeland got nuked. And then even after easing up and trying again to maintain peace, gets fucked over again in 5.1.
What a poorly written character!
Give me a break.
I forgot where I was. The forum where any character who has any amount of anti-horde sentiment gets called bad. Carry on with the Horde biased bullshit. I have no idea why I expected different.
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1. Lorewise the population in Theramore is a lot bigger than what we see in-game. It wouldn't have been feasible for Jaina to consider that option.
2. She probably thought the other Horde leaders including Thrall would use their leverage as leaders to convince Garrosh, or maybe she thought Garrosh as warmonger as he was, at least had some Orc honor and wouldn't bomb a city from afar instead of a honorable fight.
3. She felt there wasn't anywhere else to evacuate to, with all the Cataclysm going on.
When we looked at the relics of the precursors, we saw the height civilization can attain.
When we looked at their ruins, we marked the danger of that height.
- Keeper Annals
Blizzards writing of females are atrocious, it's either PMS or boobs.
It's bad. Christie Golden did an amazing job in tides of war and war crimes, but kosak butchered her, chewed her up and spit her back out.
Shame.
"reasonable arguments."
Thank you for that late night laugh fest. Keep on ignoring someone's entire home getting nuked is somehow not worthy of her hating the faction that did it. Keep pathetically pretending that it only fell on Garrosh's shoulders despite all the Horde races being involved.
Keep pretending you're making "reasonable arguments" and then talking about a victim complex.
Bahahahahaha.
I am glad this thread exists, so anybody who isn't a Horde fanboy circlejerking about how they dindu nuffin will see how insane you guys are.
Last edited by KrazyK923; 2016-08-20 at 02:39 AM.
The Horde favoritism in this forum is seriously sickening FFS, do you guys expect her to be all jolly and saintly after all the shit that has happened to her.