Republican Election 2016 - Donald Trump Megathread [OFFICIAL]

[Ausr]

You're saying we send money to ISIS? lol I can't wait for your proof of that. There's a not a single other witness that has come forward claiming to see celebrating. There is zero video evidence. Regardless, you agree it was a very small amount of people. How many do you think it was? If it were only 20 do you not think it's simple fear-mongering that Trump is using by claiming it was thousands? He's putting the idea into millions of people's heads that there are thousands of people who celebrated terrorism, within our own country when he has zero evidence.

Don't you know, Obama and Clinton are the founders of ISIS.

[Ghostpanther]

So yeah, you're preaching.

Here's a big thing, Hillary has lied, people point to the lie about the email, meanwhile Trump lies on a daily basis and none of the Trump supporters even seem to care. They think Hillary will do a bad job because she lied about something... so with Trump lying about everything, isn't he even worse?

http://www.politifact.com/colorado/s...arshal-incomp/

Here's a really good exercise though, you can point out where Politifact is bias on this one. Cause it sources where Trump said what he did, and it sources to all of the relevant information as to why it was a lie, that the Trump campaign had consulted with the fire marshal the day before and had been told the limit, then Trump got up on stage and lied about what the fire marshal had said. Sources sources sources.

Lying comes as naturally to Trump as breathing, so those saying Hillary being a liar makes her a bad candidate... really aren't helping their own case when they turn around and support a pathological liar. Hillary might be a political liar, but that means she lies in very certain specific situations. Trump just lies constantly. Trump lies as much as he breathes.



I suppose that's a good answer though about the polls, that people want to vote for perceived winners. The thing is though, nobody has really explained who is rigging these polls. Because there's you know, well over 20 agencies from far left to far right on the political spectrum. Trump has only ever been ahead of Clinton in aggregate polling data once, and it was only by a point. People say they don't take polls seriously because they're so messed with, and yet what people have found to be incredibly accurate isn't a SINGLE poll, but aggregate polling, where they're all combined.

If anything though, Hillary being shown as being so far ahead in the polls is actually dangerous for her, since if people think they're assured victory, they're more likely to stay home. It's what happened with Brexit. A lot of people just stayed home because they thought it was a sure thing to fail. So knowing that, why would the polls show Hillary beating the pants off Trump, with that being a danger?

Seriously, if you're going to claim there's some grand conspiracy and a shadow government illumanati group pulling the strings of every single pollster out there, you have to think this stuff all the way through, and not just claim it is so because you want to deny that Trump is simply unpopular.

This is not a example of him lying, but exaggerating and disagreeing with officials. This insert from your link makes it clear ;

Trump’s account of what went wrong at the rally and who was to blame is questionable.

There were 1,100 people -- not "thousands" as he said -- in the overflow room who watched his speech on a TV screen.

There was a line of people left outside, but it’s unclear if included "thousands of people," as he said.

Politicfact will use terms like "pants on fire" as if in reference to lying, when it may really be flat out wrong. There is a difference. Hillary's lying about a issue dealing with national security is a far worse case even if he was lying.

One thing for sure Trump is guilty of is being wrong about some things and exaggerating.

[Breccia]

I just show you a video, it happened.

No.

You.

Didn't.

The video you showed did not have anything that came close to defending Trump's blatant, proven lie.
a) It didn't show ANYTHING AT ALL. It was a video of an empty rooftop.
b) No arrests were made.
c) It wasn't on TV. (See also: "empty rooftop")
d) It wasn't well-covered at the time. Your video was from one local station five days after the fact.
e) And it wasn't thousands.

Ryan Howard hit a thousand grand slams this season! I saw it on TV! Here is a video:

Oh, of course that's a video of him hitting ONE grand slam. But it's just as accurate to my claim as your video is to Trump's, i.e. a blatantly lie. Technically, it's even a BETTER defense because it actually fucking shows something!

Give it up. It's OVER. Not even you believe Trump was telling the truth.

[Zolaris192]

Given the state of DNC emails, what Assange believes is a smoking gun is pretty ridiculous. It's amazing how much the xenophobic Trump supporters are so keen on foreigners fixing the presidential election because they believe it is in their interest. Australian fugitive wants to meddle in U.S. politics bring it on, GOP candidate has a Russian pawn running his campaign... no problem.

Why don't you go tell all the people massacred this year and last year by the loving ideology of Islam how xenophobic they are and that it's their fault they got killed

Fear is a natural feeling it keeps you alive, animals use it all the time

Nature figured it out a long time ago, when will the limp wristed militant regressive leftists figure it out, that when a disproportionate part of a group either directly commits acts of terror or openly support it that there is legitimite cause for concern

[Breccia]

Why don't you go tell all the people massacred this year and last year by the loving ideology of Islam how xenophobic they are and that it's their fault they got killed

Awww, how cute. Someone who thinks terrorists speak for the faith of Islam, and calls them all aliens by using the term "xenophobic". Wait, not cute. I meant ignorant.

You do know that most people killed by ISIS were in countries with ISIS, not the US, right? And if you meant the uS, you do remember that the nightclub shooting was also done by a US citizen? With no connection to ISIS? You'd get further blaming him for being gay.

Fear is a natural feeling it keeps you alive, animals use it all the time

Nature figured it out a long time ago, when will the limp wristed militant regressive leftists figure it out, that when a disproportionate part of a group either directly commits acts of terror or openly support it that there is legitimite cause for concern

Yeah, you know what else animals do? Run around naked, kill and eat each other raw with their teeth, and shit wherever they want. You want to get in on that action? Your call. I'll stick with cutlery and not living my life in the rule of fear. You and I both know we're more likely to be killed by an accidental gun discharge than a terrorist incident, dozens of times over, so if there's something to be fearful of, it'd be the GOP"s zealous adherence to gun nut policy. But I'm not going to base my political views on an irrational fear (yes, being afraid of being shot by a 2nd Amendment nut by accident is irrational). I'm going base it on actual things like logic, and facts, and common sense. Which include the fact that most Muslims aren't terrorists, and there are literally millions of peaceful Muslim refugees fleeing ISIS and the perversion you're actually worried about.

You want to fight ISIS? Fine. I'm 100% on board. You want to fight the Muslim faith in general? You're the one being xenophobic.

[Zolaris192]

Awww, how cute. Someone who thinks terrorists speak for the faith of Islam, and calls them all aliens by using the term "xenophobic". Wait, not cute. I meant ignorant.

You do know that most people killed by ISIS were in countries with ISIS, not the US, right? And if you meant the uS, you do remember that the nightclub shooting was also done by a US citizen? With no connection to ISIS? You'd get further blaming him for being gay.



Yeah, you know what else animals do? Run around naked, kill and eat each other raw with their teeth, and shit wherever they want. You want to get in on that action? Your call. I'll stick with cutlery and not living my life in the rule of fear. You and I both know we're more likely to be killed by an accidental gun discharge than a terrorist incident, dozens of times over, so if there's something to be fearful of, it'd be the GOP"s zealous adherence to gun nut policy. But I'm not going to base my political views on an irrational fear (yes, being afraid of being shot by a 2nd Amendment nut by accident is irrational). I'm going base it on actual things like logic, and facts, and common sense. Which include the fact that most Muslims aren't terrorists, and there are literally millions of peaceful Muslim refugees fleeing ISIS and the perversion you're actually worried about.

You want to fight ISIS? Fine. I'm 100% on board. You want to fight the Muslim faith in general? You're the one being xenophobic.

How many terrorist attacks in western countries were carried out by a non Muslim?

And the nightclub shooter's father was openly an alqueda supporter, and the killer himself had visited Saudi Arabia on multiple occasions, and called 911 to pledge support for Isis during the massacre

Go educate yourself

[Thepersona]

How many terrorist attacks in western countries were carried out by a non Muslim?

And the nightclub shooter's father was openly an alqueda supporter, and the killer himself had visited Saudi Arabia on multiple occasions, and called 911 to pledge support for Isis during the massacre

Go educate yourself

hey, look
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terror...d_KKK_violence

[DeadmanWalking]

I don't not know why you guys are wasting your time trying to have an intellectual conversation with a conspiracy theorist. Conspiracy theorists are incapable of seeing reason and logic, their brains are wired in a way that they are drawing connections between unrelated events and facts and using their imaginations to fill in the details between the two. Even if you hit them in the face with facts their minds effortlessly concoct even more complex lines to draw connections and reinforce their bizarre belief structure.
Fadeslol is not going to listen to reason and frankly by arguing with him/her you are just allowing yourself to be led by the nose off topic. Just save yourself the brain pain and ignore him/her and get on with your lives. It isn't worth the effort to save a conspiracy theorist from themselves.

Just show your hands in a non-threatening way, back away and say, "You are completely right, please don't eat my babies."

[Kyriani]

I just add the nutjobs to my ignore list it does wonders clearing up the thread from idiocy and conspiracy theories. I'm fine having actual conservatives debating this or that in this thread, but I draw the line at posts completely divorced from reality.

[alexw]

I don't not know why you guys are wasting your time trying to have an intellectual conversation with a conspiracy theorist. Conspiracy theorists are incapable of seeing reason and logic, their brains are wired in a way that they are drawing connections between unrelated events and facts and using their imaginations to fill in the details between the two. Even if you hit them in the face with facts their minds effortlessly concoct even more complex lines to draw connections and reinforce their bizarre belief structure.
Fadeslol is not going to listen to reason and frankly by arguing with him/her you are just allowing yourself to be led by the nose off topic. Just save yourself the brain pain and ignore him/her and get on with your lives. It isn't worth the effort to save a conspiracy theorist from themselves.

Just show your hands in a non-threatening way, back away and say, "You are completely right, please don't eat my babies."

We have a winner!!!!!! I stopped replying to his insanity ages ago for this very reason. As a bonus if people stop replying he might go away.

[Dsc]

The Left's tactics are textbook. These guys parrot the talking points that come right through HRC and the DNC fax machines. Its proven in their own writings and emails that got "whoops" hacked, just like our nation's National Security info on HRC's bathroom server. The facts are well documented. Just like the fact Huma Abdein, HRC's right hand woman, worked for the Muslim Brotherhood, a known Terrorist Organization, her parents are still members.

The shooters as of late? yup all Saudi and Muslim ties. If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it's a duck guys.

The Lefts tactic now is to attempt to call it all "conspiracy" and hope the public dismisses it, after all the Mainstream Media hardly touches it except when the can't ignore it, as they desperately cling to some shred of relativity.


The real scary part for the Leftists is that America has woken up. Just like Europeans have to the Globalist tactics by George Soros and the EU bureaucrats. Look at Brexit and the others lining up to flee as their country's sovereignty is being undermined.

Guess what leftists? The Independent voters AND the Bernie people saw through your facade. It's over for you. Make America Great again! Shill all you want, there is no stopping this movement of Nationalism. You brought it upon yourselves.

[Garnier Fructis]

Guess what leftists? The Independent voters AND the Bernie people saw through your facade. It's over for you. Make America Great again! Shill all you want, there is no stopping this movement of Nationalism. You brought it upon yourselves.

This might have been more convincing months ago when Trump actually had a decent shot at winning.

[Spectral]

hey, look
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terror...d_KKK_violence

Your link shows the last KKK attack being ~35 years ago. While I'm sure we're all still deeply impacted by a death that occurred before most of us were born, this may not seem quite as salient to the average person as Orlando or Nice.

[Thepersona]

Guess what leftists? The Independent voters AND the Bernie people saw through your facade. It's over for you. Make America Great again! Shill all you want, there is no stopping this movement of Nationalism. You brought it upon yourselves.

The nationalism movement is in its death throes, and the bernie voters are mostly globalists. or global citizens. being protectionist in some ways from an economic POV (even when said policies have a net gain for both parties in the agreement) =/= being anti globalization. seriously, being a nationalist is stupid, you were born there by sheer luck, it's not something to be arrogant about.

Your link shows the last KKK attack being ~35 years ago. While I'm sure we're all still deeply impacted by a death that occurred before most of us were born, this may not seem quite as salient to the average person as Orlando or Nice.

it wasnt about that, but it seems i linked it wrong

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terror..._United_States here it is

[Bollocks]

I envy people from the alt-right, the world is a lot more interesting in their minds.

[Thepersona]

I envy people from the alt-right, the world is a lot more interesting in their minds.

the world is like a gargantuan conspiracy to take their guns, to destroy christianity and make a one world country with islam (or satanism) as the worldwide state religion. its nice... to see it from afar

[Saucexorzski]

I envy people from the alt-right, the world is a lot more interesting in their minds.

Drama is intresting.

[Bollocks]

the world is like a gargantuan conspiracy to take their guns, to destroy christianity and make a one world country with islam (or satanism) as the worldwide state religion. its nice... to see it from afar

Don't forget feminists that plan to erradicate all men in the planet.

[Thepersona]

Don't forget feminists that plan to erradicate all men in the planet.

*heterosexual men, and the white ones are the first to go

[Saucexorzski]

*heterosexual men, and the white ones are the first to go

So much hate for a minority, tolerance working as intended.