Ppl said addons were next after the camera change , there were right
edit: i love elitist is now being used as some sort of insult, hilarious stuff.
Ppl said addons were next after the camera change , there were right
edit: i love elitist is now being used as some sort of insult, hilarious stuff.
Last edited by Rafalga; 2016-08-21 at 01:16 PM.
"The team would come up with excuses to send you back so that people could enjoy dungeons, such as Badges or Valor Points, but the gear was still irrelevant."
Well, that sure is one way to put it.
"The intent is for augment runes to be a nice bonus to players in Raid Finder, not for Mythic raiders to feel that it is necessary to run Raid Finder."
Then you failed in your intent. A buff such as that is absolutely necessary for mythic raiders, whereas LFR players wouldn't care. If they only play LFR, then they have no need for it.
Just come out and say you want geared players to keep queuing so the queues don't completely suck. It's why you haven't put Valor in raids. There's no other reason why you'd do that. It's an understandable goal. I wish they'd own up to it rather than give this PR-speak.
"real playing" is learning how to measure distance in a fanatasy-roleplaing-game with magic? And I thought real gaming was about having fun in the games you were playing...
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Because telling the good people, that they are the only things that keep the LFR running would be an embarrassing statement to the status of LFR.
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Of course they were right, once you see someone breaking someones arm with no reason, you know they soon will break more bones then just this one...
Yeah, because with the help of addons you hadn't put enough effort for an encounter, seems legit. Maybe if the addon killed the boss instead of you.
Archimonde mythic became trivial because of the help of the addons... Wait... Not.ű
This is like about flying and camera distance. If I want to use it, why they are disallow me to use it? It's just retarded.
And who say "spoonfed" and other bullshits can easily turn the addons off, and play the fights with extra effort.
But, taking this away from good, but not TOP players, could ruin the game experience. Totally worth it.
Having those kinds of holistic skills is very valuable, it shows situational awareness and the ability to quickly assess circumstances. Far more valuable than the ability to turret out a memorized rotation while staring at your GPS.
That you don't think that's 'real gaming' says more about you than anything, really.
What you listed has nothing to do with having a fucking tape measure in your eyes. Or can you really tell the difference between 14 and 15 yards/meters in WoW without any help?
The things you mentioned are useful to find where to go to keep the needed distance, but help not with getting the right distance.
You missed this. They're saying Runes won't force you, but the small chance of gear upgrades will.Thought I suppose the augment runes won't be what forces us to do LFR, given that loot from it will now have a random chance to be superior to mythic gear.
//reading comprehension//
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Ohh my dear lord if legendaries are random....
There is a huge difference between an unholy DK that sometimes gets a movement speed boost during disabling abilities and then being able to pop 6-8 extra festering wounds per hit.
No... not just huge.. its the difference between sitting out or being the #1 dps.
Poor Blizzard tries so hard yet continues to fail. Legion will be the same as wod. Many people will fall for the hype until they see all the flaws and slowly start droping.
Of course you can, but then you've been using these addons as a crutch for so long your skills have atrophied. Atrophied to the point that you don't even believe something like that is possible.
You have some catching up to do, but fret not, it's very doable for anyone who wishes to apply themselves.
Oh I know it's possible, but why do I need that "skill"? Where is the value in knowing how to do so?
So I can do now, what addons made trivial years ago?
That's like saying we shouldn't use robots to assemble cars, because we loose the skills to assemble cars. It's idiotic!
Make the game a challenge and not a pointless exercise in pixel-counting.
Because every game is fundamentally about testing your ability to master some arbitrary skillset, that it can be done better by programming or automation is besides the point. We assemble cars in the fastest, most efficient way because that's a for-profit industry defined by economic pressures, gaming is not comparable at all.
It's kind of like the Olympics, to be topical. Is there a point in being good at running when you can show up with a motorcycle? Why learn to play tennis when you can build a robot that serves so fast it's impossible to return? It's a game, you're deliberately competing within a limited framework to demonstrate your mastery within that framework.
So, it's just a medium for demonstrating an arbitrary skillset. Maybe it's raw power, or hand eye coordination. Likewise, the 'point' of a boss fight is not to down a boss for its own sake, you may as well hack the server and ".kill" command the boss if that's all you care about. It's about doing so while demonstrating a skill, like being able to analyze a situation and think quickly on your feet to put yourself in the right place at the right time. If you're relying on an addon to write you that script, that defeats the entire purpose of the challenge.
Last edited by Mizzet; 2016-08-21 at 03:27 PM.
Yea, I get their end of it though. If it's a token and you get the specific one you want then you stop doing things that net that token. Less time you spend playing then eventually get the complaints. My issue is more of the fact that there's SO many legendaries already and they're going to add more from the sound of it. It would be one thing if say each spec had two that altered stat weights/gameplay/builds. But each spec has numerous ones plus the non spec related ones like the boots that increase move speed by haste. it's a flawed system yes, but it's still better than picking what you want. The bigger problem is the effect these will have on performance in a raid setting. I don't think they should be usable until halfway through a tier in Mythic raiding at the earliest.
ACT that people use for FF14 can be customized to give pretty much the same callouts as DBM did a few expansions back. FF14 bosses work on a very strict x ability happens every y seconds so its very easy to set up ACT to give you callouts when boss attacks are about to happen, why you get a certain buff/debuff. Its not as advanced as DBM but it can be set up for similar functionality, and yes the top guilds Elysium etc have it set it up for callouts you can hear in their clear vids.
Theres the Overleylines ECHO project which actually tells you what to do in the fight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCQMSlnd_jU
You also have to remember FF14s boss mechanics are about as complex than dungeon boss mechanics in WoW, they are just far more punishing.
It is kinda of true, I have played without add-ons since 2004 except for like mogit which gives you no benefit outside of telling you if you have an appearance or not. I have even been top DPS and heals raiding in the past before heroics were introduced with no add-ons when shit was considered "Harder" lol, like WoW was ever hard, it is like anything sequential, you practice and rinse and repeat and get amazing at it, it is a repetition based game.
I'd argue that the Olympics is a series of games done competitively, so is raiding/high level pvp. On a different scale, but games can definitely be competitive.
Hey look there is more than one definition of game.
game ɡām/
noun
1 - a form of play or sport, especially a competitive one played according to rules and decided by skill, strength, or luck.
2 - a physical or mental competition conducted according to rules with the participants in direct opposition to each other
Lets go to the olympics website. https://www.olympic.org
Last edited by deadman1; 2016-08-21 at 05:40 PM.