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    And the new campaign manager has 180ed regarding the tax returns.

    "Look, it's been the norm for decades, and refusing to release them is going to be a constant source of -- holy mother of God, you can never, ever let the public see these."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chelly View Post
    Bachmann-Trumper Overdrive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masark View Post
    And the new campaign manager has 180ed regarding the tax returns.

    "Look, it's been the norm for decades, and refusing to release them is going to be a constant source of -- holy mother of God, you can never, ever let the public see these."

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    Bachmann-Trumper Overdrive.
    There's a great article out there that shows Conway attacking Trump for things when she wasn't running his campaign. I don't think anyone is going to claim she ever was a paragon of honesty and this just shows that.
    What are we gonna do now? Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a Jew?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pangean View Post
    Well we will have to agree to disagree about Brietbart the person, however my main point was that they are claiming that Trump's Campaign Manager is wrong in her claims. And frankly I think they are correct.
    That would probably feed into the story going around that there is no one and everyone in charge in his campaign, which is why there are mixed messages everywhere.

    Basically the same thing that happened in sony, in that there were many branches inside sony and each one had a boss that felt they were the boss over all the other divisions and no one was willing to take orders from anyone else and they had 200 different televisions for sale that nobody could tell the difference between any of them because there was no clear chain of command to say, "We need a low end TV, a mid range and two high end, one with curved screen and the other with blue tooth sound bars."

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    And now his new Campaign manager Conway is suggesting there will be no forced deportation and even citizenship for those who are currently here is on the table, why? Well forced deportations work well in Republican nominations but not in the general election, where you need more than republicans to win. Make him president and then we get to see which group he lied to.
    You just have to lol at this. Its like "see he's not so bad after all, he's reconsidering his plan of deporting by force 5% of the population. Won't he make a great president?" When in fact the problem is that this raging nutjob racist thought it was somehow a sane idea in the first place. Walking it back doesn't make it better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomatketchup View Post
    So Donald Trump has apparently a 2-point lead over Clinton now, according to the LA Times.

    http://graphics.latimes.com/usc-pres...oll-dashboard/

    To be fair, this is one poll out of... what, 20? But still, to me it's mind-blowing if Trump can win the elections after all he's said just by saying "whoops sorry" once.
    LA times polls the same group of people every time and uses it to track changing sentiment in the same group of people. Its consistently been very pro-Trump by about 7 points vs the average. So it actually equates to about a 5 point Clinton lead.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masark View Post
    And the new campaign manager has 180ed regarding the tax returns.

    "Look, it's been the norm for decades, and refusing to release them is going to be a constant source of -- holy mother of God, you can never, ever let the public see these."
    I've long given up on expecting Trump to show the tax returns. It would be too challenging to clean them up before the race is done so better to have people wondering than to expose the truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chelly View Post
    I would not let her near a pointy edged pencil never mind foreign policy. She belongs in a mental ward undergoing psychiatric treatment.
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    I don't think I ever hide the fact I was a national socialist. The fact I am a German one is what technically makes me a nazi
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    You haven't seen nothing yet, we trumpsters will definitely be getting some cool uniforms soon I hope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    LA times polls the same group of people every time and uses it to track changing sentiment in the same group of people. Its consistently been very pro-Trump by about 7 points vs the average. So it actually equates to about a 5 point Clinton lead.
    Oh, "bias adjustments" go the other way now?

    ...it's more about trend though. Post-DNC Hillary bump is over, there doesn't seem to be any long-term growth in her supporters so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saucexorzski View Post
    Is this you supporting states rights over the feudal government? or is it you latching on to the only straw you can that allows you to justify denying folks from helping those in need..because they are Orange...such a racist.
    No this is me respecting a governor's wishes because he is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT when that if anyone high profile like the President, Trump, or Hillary came to the state, they need to have warning. Warning enough to block off roads, set up security for the areas they are visiting, and set up barriers to keep people back. All of that time, man hours, and people could be used for looking for people that might be missing, placing sandbags to keep water back or handing out supplies LONGER THAN 49 FUCKING SECONDS. You know that Trump went down there for the photo op to try to make himself look good. But all he did, was make himself look like a fucking retard even more. Because he was warned not to use it as a photo op, but he did anyway. He could have just sent his supplies, released a press release that he did, and he would have looked like a fucking saint for it. Nope, now he looks like Cheeto Jesus that wants fucking attention for everything that he was doing in the less than 24 hours that he was there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    No this is me respecting a governor's wishes because he is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT when that if anyone high profile like the President, Trump, or Hillary came to the state, they need to have warning. Warning enough to block off roads, set up security for the areas they are visiting, and set up barriers to keep people back. All of that time, man hours, and people could be used for looking for people that might be missing, placing sandbags to keep water back or handing out supplies LONGER THAN 49 FUCKING SECONDS. You know that Trump went down there for the photo op to try to make himself look good. But all he did, was make himself look like a fucking retard even more. Because he was warned not to use it as a photo op, but he did anyway. He could have just sent his supplies, released a press release that he did, and he would have looked like a fucking saint for it. Nope, now he looks like Cheeto Jesus that wants fucking attention for everything that he was doing in the less than 24 hours that he was there.
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/21/politi...visit-helpful/

    Oh look even the Governor says he helped....
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    I always wondered why is Trump campaigning where he is likely to loose? Shouldn't he be focusing on swing states?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shalcker View Post
    Oh, "bias adjustments" go the other way now?

    ...it's more about trend though. Post-DNC Hillary bump is over, there doesn't seem to be any long-term growth in her supporters so far.
    Wrong. That poll consistently has sucked Trump's cock since before the RNC and after.

    Which is why, if you look at this page: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/, you do not see a USC Dornsife/Los Angeles Times Poll on the listing. It is THAT BAD that it doesn't even deserve a rank.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saucexorzski View Post
    http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/21/politi...visit-helpful/

    Oh look even the Governor says he helped....
    Doesn't mean shit since he can't get his cheeto sized/colored dick out of his fucking ear so he can follow fucking instructions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bollocks View Post
    I always wondered why is Trump campaigning where he is likely to loose? Shouldn't he be focusing on swing states?
    GOP folks would like to know that as well.
    What are we gonna do now? Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a Jew?
    'Cause they're working for the clampdown
    They put up a poster saying we earn more than you!
    When we're working for the clampdown
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    We will train our blue-eyed men To be young believers

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    Quote Originally Posted by alexw View Post
    Agreed. Its necessary for the outstanding stock of US debt to grow as the world economy continues to grow to facilitate that growth. However this export of dollars is also a freebie to the US that it gets to use in whatever way it wants. Now is it beneficial to use this trillion dollar freebie to buy/create weapons/equipment which you then use to blow up and destabilize other nations? Or is it beneficial to use it to stabilize your crashing economy after a bursting economic bubble? Its obvious the first one was an utter waste while the second was a good use of it. This is what Saucexorzski in his idiotic partisanship ignores. Adding to the national debt is not necessary bad. It depends what you spend the money you borrow on.
    It is objectively not to the US' benefit. That exported debt (or imported capital, if you like) acts as a drag on the US economy. The way this works is that the exported debt notes to China, Germany, Japan, et al function as a valuation depressant between the USD and any of the aforementioned national currencies (in fact, any currency at all has to deal with this.) This devaluation from the trade deficit forces things to happen:

    1) American jobs go abroad, where manufacturing is cheaper.
    2) American households grow their debt levels.
    3) The American government grows its debt level.

    These effects are actually intertwined, because if you lose your job, your income goes to zero but your consumption cannot go to zero because you'll fucking die. So you pay your living out of savings, or you rely on the savings of others (be that welfare programs or family,) or you start stealing stuff.

    This has the bonus effect of increasing consumption rates (remember, consumption is simply GDP - Savings) which also means investment gets reduced (Savings = Investment by definition) which reduces growth outlooks for a firm which perhaps causes layoffs, until the system reaches an equilibrium. The major points here are as follows:

    A) The US reserve currency status does not benefit the US economically, but the rest of the world, rather than the opposite which is commonly claimed.
    B) The US is not in control of its own employment and income inequality outlook until they decide to enact their own trade barriers. *

    *Significant trade barriers erected by America will have the outcome of destroying the next three largest economies on the planet, which will increase political stability in said countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saucexorzski View Post
    Go read what Skroe has said about it, his sources and knowledge on the subject far exceed mine.
    So you don't know and its a claim you made without sources to back up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masark View Post
    And the new campaign manager has 180ed regarding the tax returns.

    "Look, it's been the norm for decades, and refusing to release them is going to be a constant source of -- holy mother of God, you can never, ever let the public see these."
    Well here's another thing she said today:

    STEPHANOPOULOS: So what changed for you?

    And do you stand by those comments?

    CONWAY: I do. And the reason is I don't like when people hurl personal insults. That will never change. That's not my style. I'm a mother of four shall children. And it would be a terrible example for me to feel otherwise --

    STEPHANOPOULOS: You think Mr. Trump's going to change on that?

    CONWAY: Well, but he doesn't hurl personal insults.

    This demonstrates how easy it is for her to blatantly lie. And why she is running Trump's campaign. No ethical core.
    What are we gonna do now? Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a Jew?
    'Cause they're working for the clampdown
    They put up a poster saying we earn more than you!
    When we're working for the clampdown
    We will teach our twisted speech To the young believers
    We will train our blue-eyed men To be young believers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orbitus View Post
    Wrong. That poll consistently has sucked Trump's cock since before the RNC and after.

    Which is why, if you look at this page: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/, you do not see a USC Dornsife/Los Angeles Times Poll on the listing. It is THAT BAD that it doesn't even deserve a rank.

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    Doesn't mean shit since he can't get his cheeto sized/colored dick out of his fucking ear so he can follow fucking instructions.
    It's almost like you did not read the article..

    "Gov. John Bel Edwards, a Democrat, had released a statement before the GOP nominee's visit decrying a "photo-op," but Edwards told CNN's Dana Bash on "State of the Union" Sunday that Trump had always been welcome if he were coming to be "helpful.""

    Well he was helpful so he did listen, maybe you should stop dreaming of Trumps penis?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bollocks View Post
    I always wondered why is Trump campaigning where he is likely to loose? Shouldn't he be focusing on swing states?
    He has been. Recent rallies in Ohio, Mich, Wisconsin, Virginia and NC. Do not think Hillary has been holding very many? Then again, she is leading in the polls by a healthy amount and may not feel she needs to. But since I do not care how many she has and such, I may be wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bollocks View Post
    So you don't know and its a claim you made without sources to back up.
    I mean you can not go talk to Skroe...but he's a source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeadmanWalking View Post
    Irratated? You have no clue how I am behaving because this is a text based medium and you are incapable of feeling my irratation over text based messages. Any emotions you are 'hearing' are put there entirely by your own imagination.

    The problem you are having is that you don't like what I had to say because it was true and you can't handle that. You don't know shit about what you are talking about but someone said something that fit your political narrative and you ran with it like a 7th grader who found a porno mag under a bridge and you don't understand why the pages stick together.

    *winky face, Happy face, lol. <- So you can tell my emotional state.
    You also told me by resorting to insults, you are not worthy of any responses from now on. I wish you the best however.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ghostpanther View Post
    He has been. Recent rallies in Ohio, Mich, Wisconsin, Virginia and NC. Do not think Hillary has been holding very many? Then again, she is leading in the polls by a healthy amount and may not feel she needs to. But since I do not care how many she has and such, I may be wrong.
    He has 4 events this upcoming week. Of the 4 one is in Texas and another is in Mississippi. Safe GOP states. He campaigns in ones he does not need to and ones beyond his reach. His campaign is a total mess.
    What are we gonna do now? Taking off his turban, they said, is this man a Jew?
    'Cause they're working for the clampdown
    They put up a poster saying we earn more than you!
    When we're working for the clampdown
    We will teach our twisted speech To the young believers
    We will train our blue-eyed men To be young believers

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