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    Yes, 24 years ago today a survivalist nutbag met the long arm of the law.

    And nothing of value was lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NineSpine View Post
    It's extremely relevant. The lasting effect of Ruby Ridge and Waco has been a culture of denial and and a hands-off attitude towards white nationalist groups, even when they get violent. These are rallying cries for white nationalist groups, who treat the anniversaries of these events as national days of mourning. Go to any white nationalist board on the internet right now and you'll see this issue being discussed right now.
    Yeah but this shit was undeniably wrong - The federal government was completely out of line.

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    A randy weaver sounds like a sex pest with a loom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berengil View Post
    Yes, 24 years ago today a survivalist nutbag met the long arm of the law.

    And nothing of value was lost.
    So you think cops should kill children because of parents?

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    Yes, 24 years ago today a survivalist nutbag met the long arm of the law.

    And nothing of value was lost.
    Well the 'long arm of the law' shot an innocent woman, her 14 year old son, and not the, 'nutbag' who was acquitted on all charges.
    A US marshal was also shot and killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrangeJoe View Post
    So you think cops should kill children because of parents?
    If the nut didn't surrender peaceably while his kid was present, that's on him.

    There can be no truce, no peace, and no compromise with militia/survivalist/sovereign citizen nuts. Or w/e they call themselves now.

    Bundy and his bunch that took over that federal building in the wildlife refuge should have been made an example of. Pull everybody back to safe distance and drone them to bits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoblinP View Post
    Yes, the FBI shot like 200 people in 2015 - Apparently every single one a proper shooting according to the FBI - Much trust.
    don't see how that has to do with situations like the one were talking about buuut ookay.

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    don't see how that has to do with situations like the one were talking about buuut ookay.
    My point is, US law enforcement officials can still shoot pretty much anyone and get away with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoblinP View Post
    Well the 'long arm of the law' shot an innocent woman, her 14 year old son, and not the, 'nutbag' who was acquitted on all charges.
    A US marshal was also shot and killed.
    So they murdered a US marshall and got acquitted of all charges? wtf

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berengil View Post
    Pull everybody back to safe distance and drone them to bits.
    In a country where some people thought Obama was going to round them up into FEMA death camps, for no apparent reason, I am not convinced that droning a few nutjobs will help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berengil View Post
    If the nut didn't surrender peaceably while his kid was present, that's on him.

    There can be no truce, no peace, and no compromise with militia/survivalist/sovereign citizen nuts. Or w/e they call themselves now.

    Bundy and his bunch that took over that federal building in the wildlife refuge should have been made an example of. Pull everybody back to safe distance and drone them to bits.
    Kill them all! Everyone that disagrees with us shall suffer!

    How about no. You sound insane. I hope you're getting the help you desperately need.
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    liberalism is a right wing idealogy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berengil View Post
    If the nut didn't surrender peaceably while his kid was present, that's on him.

    There can be no truce, no peace, and no compromise with militia/survivalist/sovereign citizen nuts. Or w/e they call themselves now.

    Bundy and his bunch that took over that federal building in the wildlife refuge should have been made an example of. Pull everybody back to safe distance and drone them to bits.
    Not sticking up for the guy, but there is a different between him being at fault, and nothing of value lost...

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoblinP View Post
    My point is, US law enforcement officials can still shoot pretty much anyone and get away with it.
    no shit, we have threads about that all the time.

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    If the nut didn't surrender peaceably while his kid was present, that's on him.
    The kid wasn't present - he was with his dog who started barking, who then got shot, upon seeing his dog shot, he responded by firing back.
    At this point the camouflage wearing DUSM shot and killed him.
    at which point the father and a friend also shot back, killing one DUSM - A shooting that both men were acquitted of, and secured civil damages against the state.
    There can be no truce, no peace, and no compromise with militia/survivalist/sovereign citizen nuts. Or w/e they call themselves now.
    And there can be no peace when the state can act tyrannically.
    Bundy and his bunch that took over that federal building in the wildlife refuge should have been made an example of. Pull everybody back to safe distance and drone them to bits.
    Clearly rational.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xeones View Post
    So they murdered a US marshall and got acquitted of all charges? wtf
    Well that is what happens if you engage in an unconstitutional clusterfuck of epic proportions.

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    Ok, so this guy was some criminal that got his wife and kid killed?

    Why are we supposed to remember this?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sykol View Post
    19 years ago, Ruby Rhod happened.

    I have that movie on at this very moment and it literally just played that part in the movie as I looked at your post. That was some next level shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggrophobic View Post
    Ok, so this guy was some criminal that got his wife and kid killed?

    Why are we supposed to remember this?
    Well he wasn't really a criminal. It was a case of the government overstepping their bounds. Hence the lawsuits they lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aggrophobic View Post
    Ok, so this guy was some criminal that got his wife and kid killed?

    Why are we supposed to remember this?
    Because he wasn't - He was acquitted.

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    Humanity cannot be wiped of the face of the Earth fast enough.. and forgotten by the universe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NineSpine View Post
    It's extremely relevant. The lasting effect of Ruby Ridge and Waco has been a culture of denial and and a hands-off attitude towards white nationalist groups, even when they get violent. These are rallying cries for white nationalist groups, who treat the anniversaries of these events as national days of mourning. Go to any white nationalist board on the internet right now and you'll see this issue being discussed right now.
    Those poor Feds, not being able to blow away white people with zero repercussions after entrapment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Berengil View Post
    If the nut didn't surrender peaceably while his kid was present, that's on him.

    There can be no truce, no peace, and no compromise with militia/survivalist/sovereign citizen nuts. Or w/e they call themselves now.

    Bundy and his bunch that took over that federal building in the wildlife refuge should have been made an example of. Pull everybody back to safe distance and drone them to bits.
    It is not lost on me that the left was foaming at the mouth wanting the BLM standoff to end with the massacre of the armed citizens.

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