Err...you need to nock Bolvar down another few notches, remove the dark titan since it doesn't exist, and the void lords a few lower, too (around Naaru level).
1. Sargeras
2. Medivh
3. Kil'Jaedin
4. Archimonde (if he is still alive)
5. Azshara
Err...you need to nock Bolvar down another few notches, remove the dark titan since it doesn't exist, and the void lords a few lower, too (around Naaru level).
1. Sargeras
2. Medivh
3. Kil'Jaedin
4. Archimonde (if he is still alive)
5. Azshara
Yea there is no way the Lich King is #1 that is just dumb, and lol @ the idea that he would be stronger than a void titan. People really fanboy way too hard over how strong the LK is. He's probably top 10 at prime but doesn't come close to a Titan.
Aren't Medivh/Archimonde dead?
We know nothing about the Void Lords
And Illidan is probably at least as powerful as Azshara at this point if not stronger. Maybe back in WotA days prior to his conquest of Outland, Skull of Gul'dan consumption Eye of Sargeras, killing countless demons etc (which all makes him stronger) it would be a closer match
1. Sargeras
2. Kil'Jaeden
Beyond that it gets debatable
Strategos, you must be new to any topic BB "graces" with his presence, he has a hard-on for the lich king a mile long, if you want a laugh, just skim his post history
on topic thou, Archi im not sure of(insert "mythic archi is canon, died in nether, dead for good" debate here) Medivh is as far as i know MIA("and now i take my place among the legends of the past" and vanishes from the universe, leaving behind a number of afterimages in Kara, all with conflicting agenda's, one to piss you off, one to herald the legion, one to make his orc/draenei/human hybrid son a walking macguffin) and with the 7.1 trailer, its hard to say if Moroes was refering to Medivh, or Sargeras, leaning towards Sarg thou
as for listing them in that 5 most powerful, i think that was meant to be overall, not currently, as Sarg-possessed Medivh would be stronger then KJ and Archi, assuming Medivh wasnt doing all he could to dampen Sarg's power(which was likely the case given that Sarg wouldve killed anyone in his path while controlling Medivh, yet didnt)
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Mannoroth got taken out by Grom Hellscream. Don't get me wrong, Grom is a badass, but acting like that means a ton for Azshara isn't saying much.
Illidan took out Magtheridon very easily as well.
We have no reason to believe Azshara's power changed since she lost and became a Naga. She is as likely to have lost power as she is to have gained it.
We know for a fact now that Illidan (and any demon hunter) grows stronger with every demon they kill (similar to death knights with the living) and that he has consumed a number of powerful artifacts since the WotA
For the nth time, no, he isn't "terrified of them from what he witnessed". He is terrified of the possibility of the birth of a Void Titan. Void Titan and Void Lords are different beings.
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"Can still be used" is the keyword here. That can't be applied to Velen. KJ is a lot more reasonable / forgiving than Archimonde towards his followers.
Je veux le sang, sang, sang, et sang
Donnons le sang de guillotine
Pour guerir la secheresse de la guillotine
Je veux le sang, sang, sang, et sang.
If you're really into the lore, you should read "Illidan: Warcraft". It recounts the whole of BC from Illidan's viewpoint.
"I Am Vengeance. I Am The Night. I Am Felfáádaern!"
To be fair, Xel'Atath claimed that Dimensius (and similar beings) is only "fragments, shadows, the faintest of echoes". Seeing that Dimensius didn't seem to have any problem with manifesting for a long time, he probably isn't at the same level as the Void Lords when they manifested or when they threw the Old Gods around.
Je veux le sang, sang, sang, et sang
Donnons le sang de guillotine
Pour guerir la secheresse de la guillotine
Je veux le sang, sang, sang, et sang.
Illidan is a fleshed out, realistic character, with plenty of character faults, whom people can actually relate to.
Thrall is actually just a mary sue, hence green jesus
Blizzard isn't making Illidan a savior. The people are whining are just being retarded.
They're just showing you he had more reasons for doing what he did besides -becomes one dimensional villain with designated insanity- in TBC. That it's more complex and not a simple good vs evil confuses and upsets some people.
After reading the book I am convinced a lot of people read a different book all together. Like you said Illidan is fleshed out in the book. In my opinion the book made him equal parts selfish and selfless. He has the big picture in mind, but damn it all, he's doing it his way.
It's just stupid hipsters who think they're oldschool when they played in TBC where Illidan was a one-dimensional evil villain with no depth.
And think they're flexing their epeens by being resentful about this 'new Illidan' from the book.
When in reality, this was the original Illidan from Warcraft 3 all along and 'TBC Illidan' is the one that was the botchery of lore, and either they just never played WC3 or didn't pay much attention when they played it to how different Illidan is from WC3 to TBC.
Until now, thanks to the book we get to see it all make sense.
You have just spoken like someone who never bothered to read the WC3 manual which described the event of original WotA...
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They are making him the savior and retconning shits. Don't need to look anywhere but the new flashback quest in Blackrook Hold. It's the retconned version of WotA's trilogy event. Now Ravencrest was the one who looked stupid because Blizzard changed the event. lul.
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Oh I read it.
If you think the original TBC Illidan was anything remotely similar to the WC3 Illidan, then you are illiterate.
He was always a bit of a nominal hero in Warcraft 3.
He saved Ashenvale by consuming the skull of Gul'dan and stemming the corruption of Felwood. He destroyed defeated Tichondrius, leader of the Dreadlords. These are heroic deeds, even if they were because of less heroic motivations.
Same with recreating the Well of Eternity, allowing Night elves to continue being immortal and draw upon magic.
Same with his campaigns against the Burning Legion on Outland, or his attempt to prevent the Rise of the Lich King.
His TBC plotline made no fucking sense - until now, thanks to the Novel.
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