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    Karazhan pre-expansion quest foreshadowing?

    Anyone else think the encounter with the faceless and the audio that came with it was oddly out of place? Faceless are associated with the old gods, who sargaras opposes. Mirion peaced out quickly after that when there was a very clear legion invasion happening.

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    Despite the focus on the Burning Legion the Old Gods definitely aren't out of focus with this expansion. There's a lot of Old God-flavored lore to be had, especially from a handful of the Artifact weapon quests. I'm of the assumption that N'zoth and his machinations are going to show up at some point in the expansion, either attempting to flank us while we're preoccupied with the Legion or maybe even assisting in their own special way (a way that they probably hope will be as detrimental to the Horde and Alliance as it is to the Legion).
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    why is it out of place?
    you know there a big chunk of old god flesh right under their feet right?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal123 View Post
    why is it out of place?
    you know there a big chunk of old god flesh right under their feet right?
    Yeah, the dead one. But it's not just the encounter itself, that's odd, is what you hear whatever it is that said it say. "You are a tool of unseen forces" or something like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal123 View Post
    why is it out of place?
    you know there a big chunk of old god flesh right under their feet right?
    Actually Yogg Saron's corpse is missing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakain View Post
    Yeah, the dead one. But it's not just the encounter itself, that's odd, is what you hear whatever it is that said it say. "You are a tool of unseen forces" or something like that.
    what's so odd about it?
    evil beings of the hentai lords whisper stuff to creatures in the universe.
    since forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taftvalue View Post
    Actually Yogg Saron's corpse is missing.
    its swimming in its with old god piss filled prison.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakain View Post
    Yeah, the dead one. But it's not just the encounter itself, that's odd, is what you hear whatever it is that said it say. "You are a tool of unseen forces" or something like that.
    "You are pawn of forces unseen" This is whisper of Yogg-Saron that was normally heard in the ?Whispering Gulch? in Northrend. Even Yogg's presence, as dead as he is, still can cause whispers, as seen with Y'shaarj.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redroniksre View Post
    "You are pawn of forces unseen" This is whisper of Yogg-Saron that was normally heard in the ?Whispering Gulch? in Northrend. Even Yogg's presence, as dead as he is, still can cause whispers, as seen with Y'shaarj.
    pretty much.


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    I agree, this is weird. At its simplest, it was just leftover minions of Yogg-Saron doing his bidding from beyond 'death'. But it does have the potential to be a big turn of events.

    The real question about this quest and foreshadowing...are we getting teased to how the new Karazhan dungeon will play out? Demons in the early wings, rogue sentinel event replacing Aran...etc.

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    Yogg-Saron's essence is still in Ulduar, so it makes sense Faceless Ones would show up there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakain View Post
    Yeah, the dead one. But it's not just the encounter itself, that's odd, is what you hear whatever it is that said it say. "You are a tool of unseen forces" or something like that.
    "the dead one"
    Yogg isn't dead and neither is C'thun. Y'shaarj is the only dead old god.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adoxe View Post
    "the dead one"
    Yogg isn't dead and neither is C'thun. Y'shaarj is the only dead old god.
    oh not this shit again...

    nah fuck this, not worth discussing this shit another time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Adoxe View Post
    "the dead one"
    Yogg isn't dead and neither is C'thun. Y'shaarj is the only dead old god.
    Blizzard apparently said otherwise in both game, book and interview, sorry. Just look up the link in pretty much all OG-related threads in the last two years or so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal123 View Post
    what's so odd about it?
    evil beings of the hentai lords whisper stuff to creatures in the universe.
    since forever.

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    its swimming in its with old god piss filled prison.
    That.... That's what I was standing in up to my knees?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adoxe View Post
    "the dead one"
    Yogg isn't dead and neither is C'thun. Y'shaarj is the only dead old god.
    They're really dead. But it's WoW, so death be a doorway and time a window, mon. And these are Old Gods. So they can whisper, or corrupt, or whatever. YS was completely dead and reduced to just a heart, yet its emanations persisted, it could whisper to us, to the Mantid, to Garry, not to mention the whole royal mess its supposedly dead heart caused.

    The Old Gods... linger.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adoxe View Post
    "the dead one"
    Yogg isn't dead and neither is C'thun. Y'shaarj is the only dead old god.
    You might want to do some research again. Blizz said they are dead, like really dead, and not like the Forsaken kind of dead. They aren't regenerating their strength to make a grand come back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adoxe View Post
    "the dead one"
    yogg isn't dead and neither is c'thun. Y'shaarj is the only dead old god.
    here we go again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adoxe View Post
    "the dead one"
    Yogg isn't dead and neither is C'thun. Y'shaarj is the only dead old god.
    Dead as doornails friends. Not only was the "You can't kill them or Azeroth will be destroyed" altered to be "You can't pry them out like Aman'thul did with Y'shaarj" But the devs had said that they were dead and were the chief cause of the Cataclysm. Which makes much more sense then "Lawl Deathwings did it" We can very much kill them and Azeroth only sustains minor damage. However Old Gods can still be resurrected, but with Yoggy still guarded by the Keepers and C'thun already failed to be rezzed, i don't think it is probable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drakain View Post
    That.... That's what I was standing in up to my knees?
    maybe, or maybe not.
    we may never know.

    its most likely old god juice nonetheless


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    Quote Originally Posted by Redroniksre View Post
    Dead as doornails friends. Not only was the "You can't kill them or Azeroth will be destroyed" altered to be "You can't pry them out like Aman'thul did with Y'shaarj" But the devs had said that they were dead and were the chief cause of the Cataclysm. Which makes much more sense then "Lawl Deathwings did it" We can very much kill them and Azeroth only sustains minor damage. However Old Gods can still be resurrected, but with Yoggy still guarded by the Keepers and C'thun already failed to be rezzed, i don't think it is probable.
    Well even though in game 100% contradicted the "they were the cause of the cataclysm, they are dead. DW was the sole cause of the cataclysm. That was Metzen et al speaking about crap they didn't know and saying it to sound cool "Haven't you seen the Cataclysm?!?!" I would have said "Uh yeah and DW 100% caused it by shattering the world pillar"

    They are dead, and our method worked rather than outright yanking them out to preserve Azeroth. The titan creations were no match for the old gods so Amanthul yanked Yshaarj out and found out that wouldn't work. We pretty much killed their brains like an immune system for the planet/titan baby.

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