Mafia 73: Emergency is NOW!

[Anakso]

Well with a claimed doc, if it is true the scum will have to deal with him sooner rather than later so, I'm going back to who I find the scummiest.

Vote Anakso

Why find me the scummiest? Seems to mostly be because I find you suspicious is that right?

[JynxieJ]

No, As I said I really dislike your placement on crackles lynch, yes he was scum but you pushed him to an l-1 when someone asked to wait. I really don't care if you find me scummy or not, I know I'm town and I'm pretty sure most everyone agrees or at least trusts me on that part.

I feel you are hiding in the background, you really haven't added much input to this game and have just sat on the sidelines. So I want to put pressure on you as, I feel you are one of the most likely to be scum.

[Virothe]

It's pretty quiet. I'd appreciate it if some more people cast their votes. There's only four out there at the moment and they're split equally between Anakso and myself. If I have to defend myself then I'd prefer to do it sooner rather than later when there's barely any time to properly engage people.

Vote: Graem

If you have something to say then say it, you aren't really doing a whole lot to put any pressure elsewhere.

[Marack]

Vote Graeham
You wanted some reason to claim?
Also feel youve been sitting back similar to anasko. But since you are ahead, how bout a little pressure. (L-3 if i can count)

[Reticence]

Apologies for the spotty presence today. I've been taking advantage of my first vacation in months to work on some pet projects.

Vote: Anakso

As mentioned. Still not a fan of Celtic, but I can see the merit in leaving him be for the moment.

Dual pressure, go!

[Graeham]

Alright, well, I was hoping to avoid having to claim since I haven't managed to get much use out of my role yet but I'm a 'Vampiric Vigilante'. I killed Dranxadin but that's the only one of my attempted kills to have succeeded thus far. I am also responsible for Celtic's vest being destroyed so there's merit to that aspect of his claim at least.

As for the 'Vampiric' aspect of my role? If I succeed at hitting scum then I become 'invigorated' after consuming their blood and the following night my action is submitted as if it took place a few hours earlier. If I hit Town, however, I cannot kill anybody the following night.

I've primarily been trying to take out players with low activity but that hasn't exactly seen much success so far.

I'll understand if people still want to lynch me after this claim given what happened with Virothe during the previous game.

[Marack]

Alright, well, I was hoping to avoid having to claim since I haven't managed to get much use out of my role yet but I'm a 'Vampiric Vigilante'. I killed Dranxadin but that's the only one of my attempted kills to have succeeded thus far. I am also responsible for Celtic's vest being destroyed so there's merit to that aspect of his claim at least.

As for the 'Vampiric' aspect of my role? If I succeed at hitting scum then I become 'invigorated' after consuming their blood and the following night my action is submitted as if it took place a few hours earlier. If I hit Town, however, I cannot kill anybody the following night.

So either celtic is scum or you lied about your ability to go after kills on consecutive nights. Or does popping the vest not count? Either way, we should kill the claimed killer. Sooner rather then later.

That being said. This day has given us some new information.
Unvote
Vote Anasko
Pressure on someone I dont trust and someone that I feel has been skating by this game without adding a lot.

[JynxieJ]

So you've only killed twice? And one hit a vest?

[Marack]

Celtic said his vest was popped N2, Dranx was killed N3.

@Graeham Who and why did you target N1 and N4? Why did you target Celtic N2? Why did you target Dranx N3?

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Well, off to bed. Same deal. Ill check in the morning before work. Might have to head out to the car at around lunch time for the end of the day.

[JynxieJ]

@Graeham so you are saying that you can not kill if you hit a town, can you ask if that also means popping a vest? Because if that is the case then that would mean Celtic wouldn't be town or you are lying and can kill consecutively or have a different mechanic.
@Marack I'm very torn on staying with Anakso or going with Graeham because he could be the serial killer....if we have one. However with the lack of kills it does tilt in his favor because a SK would have been taken out people everyday.

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I'm staying on Anakso, off to bed, Don't end the day just yet.
@dupti @Reticence thought on today's new claims....

[Marack]

@JynxieJ Im ok with Lynching the claimed killer, unlike the end of last game. Claim seems solid, but we both have the same question about the vest pop counting or not. Moved to Anasko to get some pressure (L-3). See what else we can get out of today.

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Then again, If we keep Graeham alive today... He could soak a mafia kill. Or get rid of people who dont seem to be playing (Kray)

[Graeham]

@JynxieJ: @Marack:

Here's my list of night actions so far:

N1 - Krayzy
N2 - Celtic
N3 - Dranxadin
N4 - Virothe

I targeted players that I felt were either inactive or simply more quiet/subdued than I'd expect of them. What's interesting about Virothe is his comment in post #652. I didn't want to draw any attention to it earlier and it may simply be a coincidence but his choice of words given my role and my attempt to kill him last night is...interesting to say the least.

I'll ask for clarification regarding the Celtic situation.

[Anakso]

Vampiric vigilante as a claim makes me a bit nervous because of the whole vampire thing and vampire being a type of SK, but with the amount of kills so far it's seeing more and more unlikely we have an SK, so for now

Unvote

Anyway might as well claim so we can push someone more useful, I'm an emergency drug dealer. Basically my role reads like ariallas and krayzys claim but with more control. I can pick 1 person a night and give them an upper, downer or cocktail. Upper makes night actions happen 30m in advance, downer makes then happen 1 hour later and cocktail is random one of the other. The effect lasts for 2 nights
N1 Celtic cocktail (had no reads of merit after day1 so just wasn't random with it)
N2 Arialla upper (as I said on day3 if changed my mind on Arialla close to the end of day2 and decided to trust his TPR claim)
N3 Reti upper (mostly just a shot in the dark on this one but he seened trustworthy with his pushing on Danner)
N4 Dupti downer (as I said in my reads post I didn't trust him so gave him a downer)

[listo95]

So I'm getting ready for sleep. Sorry I haven't been here much this day but today was murder on me. Just for a list of claims for people to see

Allowyn - Stalker
Anakso - Drug Dealer (like Arialla but more control)
Celtic - Doc
Dupti - Drunk
JynxieJ - Screamer
Krayzy - Claimed inno note (something similiar to Arialla I think)
Listo95
Marack
Reticence
Soldier 76 - Vampire Vigi
Virothe
Xanjori

[Reticence]

@JynxieJ I actually feel better about Graeham's claim than I do Celtic's. He was very forthcoming, particularly by claiming the vampire kill upfront. Dranxadin's death was flavored accordingly; that suggests any successful kills in the future will be flavored similarly, which means Graeham's activities should be easy to track. If Allowyn doesn't have better targets to follow, she could even follow him to make sure he's not attempting to kill trusted players.

There is the possibility that he's a serial killer, of course, but I'm sure Graeham knows as well as anyone else that if we run out of targets or think the mafia is gone in the future, he's on the short list for a policy lynch. All in all, I'm not terribly worried about him at this point.

The side-effect of that, though, is that Graeham's claim reduces the chance of Celtic being a serial killer, on account of there just not being enough deaths to theorize that we have two non-mafia kills at this point. I still dislike his claim, though, and there's reason enough to think he is scum of some sort, but I'm not sure what flavor he would be.

Anakso's claim is believable, but could be aligned with just about anything. One thing I would note is that I would find it hard to believe that every action-time-modifying role is town. Whether that means we should be looking at Anakso, Krayzy or someone else who hasn't claimed yet, though, I'm not really sure. The bottom line for me is that his claim won't stop me from being alright with his lynch, especially as I could see the casino crew having a drug dealer of some sort.

[Xanjori]

We made this mistake before, I dont think I'm up for making it again.

Vote: Graeham

[Graeham]

We made this mistake before, I dont think I'm up for making it again.

Vote: Graeham

I think Reticence did a pretty fair job of outlining the situation I'm in. I'd appreciate it if you could counter his points if you disagree with them for the sake of posterity so people have something solid to refer to once my alignment is revealed. Something a bit more substantial than referring to the previous game since the circumstances are very different to the situation Virothe found himself in. For starters he could kill somebody every single night - I cannot.

[Anakso]

I get your position ret, I'm not just a drug dealer though I'm an emergency drug dealer. Like when you call 911 you can ask for police, an ambulance, the fire Bregade or me.

But yea I knew my role claim would sound fishy just for the flavour given to it, which is why I reasoned my actions out and they match my thoughts as said in the thread around those times. Intentionally so as I knew if I had to claim itd sound bad

And Grae I was an SK that couldn't kill every night and survived a long time because of it too so that isn't an entirely convincing argument

[Xanjori]

I think Reticence did a pretty fair job of outlining the situation I'm in. I'd appreciate it if you could counter his points if you disagree with them for the sake of posterity so people have something solid to refer to once my alignment is revealed. Something a bit more substantial than referring to the previous game since the circumstances are very different to the situation Virothe found himself in. For starters he could kill somebody every single night - I cannot.

You're a liability. If Celtic tells the truth you popped the vest on the doc. Your voting record is abysmal. You are doing nothing at all that would suggest you are pro-town or even slightly useful to town right now. Your claim could be entirely fake, but you are claiming a kill. I have trouble believing a vigilante would be given a kill that can't kill other townies, that'd be ridiculously unfair on Mafia. You avoided answering all earlier questions against you, why? The simple reason I see is that you couldn't give a satisfactory answer, therefore you simply ignored them to buy time to come up with a believable claim.

On top of that our choices are you who has a claimed kill or people we are not sure on. The easy choice as town is to take out the killer.

[Deleted]

@Marack - Night action and it's a vest so it's passive. I imagine if I gave it to them before the killers got to them it would have saved them

BTW my official CC is Emergency Doctor

vote graeham

I find anaksos scummy but I find you even scummier

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I also find it weird how Graeham targeted a returnin player on Night 1. Did you think he was scum or did you just want to knock him off early?