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    Quote Originally Posted by Thelin View Post
    count yourself lucky. Insurance companies have a preferred drug list which means they've got deals with the manufacturer so they save $$. So when you try to get a different prescription not on that list they have to spend more $. I haven't been denied yet but that doesn't mean they won't try it eventually. It just pisses me off they can legally make you experiment with different drugs which while similar may have a different active ingredient.
    We also have something called high-cost protection. Not sure if you do. Never heard of it in the US. It means that if you exceed medical or healthcare expenses past X amount, the high-cost protection kicks in and helps pay for it by reducing the prices by a certain %, depending on how much you've had to spend and how long. So you can go from paying full price, to 50%, to 25% to 0%, depending on how much you've had to spend and during what period.

    If there's a long period between each purchase or you don't reach the purchase limit, the high-cost protection doesn't kick in. This covers medicine and general healthcare.
    That said, I've never had to pay more than a few hundred SEK in medical or healthcare expenses at any one time. Even my 1½ weeks hospitalized only cost me 30 bucks. THat's assuming you do get the treatment you need... Or even get to see a doctor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucetia View Post
    Makes me glad that I still have mine from last year and haven't had to use it since I was in Kindergarden. Being allergic to bees/mold/penicillin blows, but thankfully it's be easily avoidable. I'm still waiting for the day that one lands in my drink and I don't notice (saw it on videos in Health class lol).
    Penicillin allergies must be complete hell. My mother has some allergies to penicillin and antibiotics and I know well how much trouble that's been.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucetia View Post
    Makes me glad that I still have mine from last year and haven't had to use it since I was in Kindergarden. Being allergic to bees/mold/penicillin blows, but thankfully it's be easily avoidable. I'm still waiting for the day that one lands in my drink and I don't notice (saw it on videos in Health class lol).
    They do expire FYI - much faster if improperly stored too. Better to have an expired one than none at all but I personally wouldn't bet my life on it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zEmini View Post
    If narcotics can make there way into the US, i don't see how generic epipens and other medications can't. Hell I use too buy prescription contacts from canada because they are a fraction of the price and I don't have too get my eyes dilated. I assume that is illegal too?

    Just saying, there is a huge market out there and I would support it. Yes quality will not be as good as the named brands at the start. I think this is the best solution too the expensive medication dilema. Steal the recipe and resell them like the chinese.
    This is why there's a train of people from the US going to Cuba for medicine that's cheap as candy but just as good as anything else.

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    For-profit medicine, everyone!

    I wonder how many people won't be able to afford their next refill? How many people will die from allergic reactions because they don't have an epipen, or are using an expired one?

    Oh well, think about all those profits!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerus View Post
    And that's because parents are too damn afraid to let their kids be kids. It's been proven that delayed exposure to common allergens actually increases the likelihood of an allergic reaction.

    Back when my brother and I were kids, our parents didn't worry about all this allergy BS. If we could swallow soft food then we were ready for peanut butter any other other common allergen inducing foods. We went outside to play, got dirty, scraped our knees etc. Kids aren't meant to live in a bubble and by keeping them away from the world you're just causing the immune system to overreact to things they will inevitably come in contact with.

    My son (now 4) had a pretty major reaction the first time he came in contact with my inlaws cats. But we didn't stop visiting them. He was 2 before he first went to their house since we had moved far away shortly after he was born. So his body overreacted to the initial exposure. Several visits later and he's fine around cats now. That's not always the case but more often than not, allergic reactions are due to the above reasons.


    The increase in allergies is directly linked to the increase in parental stupidity. Kids are sterilized constantly with anti bacterial crap, aren't offered any sort of "dangerous" food until much later in life if at all and never go outside to just play.
    But to my knowledge, overexposure can cause allergies as well. There are a lot of factors to developing an allergy and it can happen in all stages of your life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zEmini View Post
    If narcotics can make there way into the US, i don't see how generic epipens and other medications can't. Hell I use too buy prescription contacts from canada because they are a fraction of the price and I don't have too get my eyes dilated. I assume that is illegal too?

    Just saying, there is a huge market out there and I would support it. Yes quality will not be as good as the named brands at the start. I think this is the best solution too the expensive medication dilema. Steal the recipe and resell them like the chinese.
    What does dilating your eyes have to do with getting contacts? They don't need to dilate your eyes to prescribe contacts - considering your vision goes to shit when dilated.
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    For-profit medicine, everyone!

    I wonder how many people won't be able to afford their next refill? How many people will die from allergic reactions because they don't have an epipen, or are using an expired one?

    Oh well, think about all those profits!
    Yeah we can't have any of those dangerous socialist ideals about equal healthcare. That shit's bad for the money!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracos854 View Post
    All pharmaceutical companies do this Martin Shkreli just did it too obviously and got a bad rap for it. In the United States pharmaceutical companies can charge you whatever they want for no reason whatsoever and politicians from both sides are paid to look the other way. They will hold a kabuki theater hearing until the press / public forgets and nothing will be done about it.
    Wut? People CHOOSE to pay them the amount. If they don't want to pay to the companies, they can always found a new one and make a new drug.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creamy Flames View Post
    Yeah we can't have any of those dangerous socialist ideals about equal healthcare. That shit's bad for the money!
    I'll tell ya'll right now. Dem socialist are ruining this country. And does god damn liberals, think they know everythin /sarcasm


    In all seriousness, My Mom had a lot of this stuff and used it when I was little. She's not too happy about this story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creamy Flames View Post
    But to my knowledge, overexposure can cause allergies as well. There are a lot of factors to developing an allergy and it can happen in all stages of your life.
    Overexposure can as well yes but that's as severe of a spectrum as no exposure. And often times that overexposure triggers a reaction because of a delayed or minimal exposure up until that point.

    Normal day to day life isn't going to overexpose a healthy child or adult.
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    There's no point in saying this, even if you slap them upside down and inside out with the truth, the tin foil hat brigade will continue to believe the opposite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cerus View Post
    And that's because parents are too damn afraid to let their kids be kids. It's been proven that delayed exposure to common allergens actually increases the likelihood of an allergic reaction.

    Back when my brother and I were kids, our parents didn't worry about all this allergy BS. If we could swallow soft food then we were ready for peanut butter any other other common allergen inducing foods. We went outside to play, got dirty, scraped our knees etc. Kids aren't meant to live in a bubble and by keeping them away from the world you're just causing the immune system to overreact to things they will inevitably come in contact with.

    My son (now 4) had a pretty major reaction the first time he came in contact with my inlaws cats. But we didn't stop visiting them. He was 2 before he first went to their house since we had moved far away shortly after he was born. So his body overreacted to the initial exposure. Several visits later and he's fine around cats now. That's not always the case but more often than not, allergic reactions are due to the above reasons.


    The increase in allergies is directly linked to the increase in parental stupidity. Kids are sterilized constantly with anti bacterial crap, aren't offered any sort of "dangerous" food until much later in life if at all and never go outside to just play.
    I agree. Hand sanitizers and the overuse of them are actually making people sicker. Same thing now with Gluten. actual gluten intolerance or cilacs disease is not really common. But you have people refusing to let their kids eat anything with Gluton just in case. But by God they will gorge themselves on refined sugar

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creamy Flames View Post
    Yeah we can't have any of those dangerous socialist ideals about equal healthcare. That shit's bad for the money!
    And how many of these medical breakthroughs and Medicines would we have today if there was no money to be made? Profits do drive progress and innovation
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    Quote Originally Posted by zenkai View Post
    Do you think she will buy the WuTang album from Shkreli?
    Why is Fox News reporting this story? It's a free market, and this is how unregulated free market economics works.

    I think it's just to brag about how she's making $19M/year - like a "A Douchebag is Born!" announcement (plus as CEO, she probably has a ton of shares) - Roger Ailes will probably back her for President in 2024.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creamy Flames View Post
    We also have something called high-cost protection. Not sure if you do. Never heard of it in the US. It means that if you exceed medical or healthcare expenses past X amount, the high-cost protection kicks in and helps pay for it by reducing the prices by a certain %, depending on how much you've had to spend and how long. So you can go from paying full price, to 50%, to 25% to 0%, depending on how much you've had to spend and during what period.

    If there's a long period between each purchase or you don't reach the purchase limit, the high-cost protection doesn't kick in. This covers medicine and general healthcare.
    That said, I've never had to pay more than a few hundred SEK in medical or healthcare expenses at any one time. Even my 1½ weeks hospitalized only cost me 30 bucks. THat's assuming you do get the treatment you need... Or even get to see a doctor.

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    We've got the opposite, at least for my employer plan. Once you reach a certain threshold for your prescription costs you're capped and your co-pay goes up from $30 to $60. Basically if you take maintenance medications (monthly) you're SOL toward the end if you hit the cap, you end up paying quite a bit more.

    This type of plan is pretty common it seems and its thru one of the biggest providers on the East Coast (Blue Cross Blue Shield)

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    I love our For Profit healthcare system in the U.S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creamy Flames View Post
    Yeah we can't have any of those dangerous socialist ideals about equal healthcare. That shit's bad for the money!
    Do we want more dead poor people????

    Or do we want more profitz???????


    I choose profitz!!!!!!!!!!

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    Just so everyone knows. There's a generic version of the EpiPen in the states. http://adrenaclick.com/

    It's $141 with a coupon. http://www.goodrx.com/epinephrine?dr...de=epinephrine


    Just have to learn a slightly different delivery system. I'll be purchasing this one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blastfizzle View Post
    Wut? People CHOOSE to pay them the amount. If they don't want to pay to the companies, they can always found a new one and make a new drug.
    Is there a sarcasm tag I'm missing?

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    Free market at work.

    This is why we should abolish un-American government regulation that strangles free enterprise, investment and business growth. Just imagine how much more money EpiPen could be making, and how much bigger of a raise the CEO could have gotten if it weren't for SJW tree hugging libtards squeezing the life out of God-loving American innovation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unfilteredJW View Post
    Is there a sarcasm tag I'm missing?
    No, that is the reality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krigaren View Post
    Free market at work.

    This is why we should abolish un-American government regulation that strangles free enterprise, investment and business growth. Just imagine how much more money EpiPen could be making, and how much bigger of a raise the CEO could have gotten if it weren't for SJW tree hugging libtards squeezing the life out of God-loving American innovation.
    Exactly that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yvaelle View Post
    Why is Fox News reporting this story? It's a free market, and this is how unregulated free market economics works.

    I think it's just to brag about how she's making $19M/year - like a "A Douchebag is Born!" announcement (plus as CEO, she probably has a ton of shares) - Roger Ailes will probably back her for President in 2024.
    LOL the healthcare market in America is probably the least free market there is here, but yeah capitalism is bad .....yawn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucetia View Post
    Makes me glad that I still have mine from last year and haven't had to use it since I was in Kindergarden. Being allergic to bees/mold/penicillin blows, but thankfully it's be easily avoidable. I'm still waiting for the day that one lands in my drink and I don't notice (saw it on videos in Health class lol).
    Is penicillin really something that you have to worry about in the day to day? I'm allergic to penicillin too but didn't think you could encounter it outside of a doctors office.

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