Olympics, Ryan Lochte incident, reporters find police exaggerated

[Independent voter]

What do you guys like to say?



He broke the law and got a gun pointed at him by security. The police then stepped in because Lochte decided to go around telling people he was robbed at gunpoint. End of story, stop trying to defend a liar and vandal.

As new details of the encounter continue to emerge, legal experts in Rio say the security guards’ actions merit an investigation, claiming they might have broken Brazilian law by threatening the swimmers with guns as they demanded payment.
The crime experts point to arbitrary exercise of personal force, or vigilante justice.

Rio state judge João Batista Damasceno compared the incident to a landlord collecting rent from a tenant — with a gun in his hand. Even if the money is owed, force cannot be used, he said.

“This security guard or any other person can run after the person” who is fleeing the scene, Damasceno said. “They get you, hold on to you and call the police, which will eventually accompany that person to the station.”

“The security guards weren’t defending themselves. They were holding the athletes by pointing a firearm,” Costa said. “It is common (in Brazil) and ends up being natural to have private armed security. Which is very dangerous — this case came close to being a tragedy. They were drunk youth being held by two armed security guards.”

Veloso said at the news conference that nothing in the investigation had indicated an inappro*priate use of force. He described it as necessary to “contain” the swimmers who were particularly strong men.
“Was there a weapon pointed at them? Yes,” Veloso said.

None of the swimmers could speak Portuguese. They tore an advertising sign, peed on some bushes, they get a gun pointed at them and were shaken down for $200.

[PACOX]

None of the swimmers could speak Portuguese. They tore an advertising sign, peed on some bushes, they get a gun pointed at them and were shaken down for $200.

The actions of the security guard doesnt take away from Lochte's lies and vandalism. The security guard shouldnt get of if found guilty of illegal procedures but Lochte still owed dues to the establishment. Also uf youve ever dealt with businesses when you owe damages, and for some reason fees tend to go up wveb more at night, you know what it owed usually isnt at cost. It goes the other way around to, when businesses owe damages to a patron,in the States at least, dont know about Brazil, probably more.

Lets not forget that Lochte's buddies (pergaps former) buddies independently tild on him after he high tailed it out of the country. Lochte also admitted to his exaggerations.

Again to use the words of others

Play stupid games,win stupid prizes

[Ironhorn]

The actions of the security guard doesnt take away from Lochte's lies and vandalism. The security guard shouldnt get of if found guilty of illegal procedures but Lochte still owed dues to the establishment. Also uf youve ever dealt with businesses when you owe damages, and for some reason fees tend to go up wveb more at night, you know what it owed usually isnt at cost. It goes the other way around to, when businesses owe damages to a patron,in the States at least, dont know about Brazil, probably more.

Lets not forget that Lochte's buddies (pergaps former) buddies independently tild on him after he high tailed it out of the country. Lochte also admitted to his exaggerations.

Again to use the words of others

What vandalism? He didn't break ANYTHING he knocked down a sign that was put back up. The door was not kicked in or damaged and the soap dispenser was fine. Everything the chief of police said they did was a lie CTV cameras showed they came and left calmly.

The only thing Lochte did was exaggerate seeing as he was drunk his recollection of events would hardly be considered a lie. The Security Guards extorted(robbed) money from them at gunpoint and the police chief covered it up by calling them lairs.

The other Olympians had to recant their story or they wouldn't have been allowed to leave.

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Poor poor Lochte

[PACOX]

What vandalism? He didn't break ANYTHING he knocked down a sign that was put back up. The door was not kicked in or damaged and the soap dispenser was fine. Everything the chief of police said they did was a lie CTV cameras showed they came and left calmly.

The only thing Lochte did was exaggerate seeing as he was drunk his recollection of events would hardly be considered a lie. The Security Guards extorted(robbed) money from them at gunpoint and the police chief covered it up by calling them lairs.

The other Olympians had to recant their story or they wouldn't have been allowed to leave.

You really want to talk the facts then let's talk the facts.

Lochte and his gang did pass on the building, the did tear up a poster, which is vandalism, and they did try to bounce out of there without paying for damages.

There were stopped by security and and told to pay, guns were pulled when they refused. A third party got involved to translate between Lochte and his crew and the security guards, who had identified themselves by then. The security guards told the 3rd party what they owed, 100 what Brazilian money is. The language barrier between the 3 parties and trying to figure out the exchange rate is what caused a lot of confusion.

One guy didn't have Brazil money but had a $20 so gave them a $20. The other had Brazilian money but was drunk and all parties were just about done at that point, gave a little more than 100, then all 3 parties agreed to go about their way. Could the guards have tried harder to get the exchange rate right? Yes but it's also understandable that they were just done with the altercation having to deal with drunk people they couldn't understand. The swimmers probably let it go because they were drunk, knew the messed up, and just wanted to go.

Next morning Lochte claimed that he was robbed at gun point, completely overexaggerting what actually we t on and why they were stopped in the first place. Hell, people would have listened to him if he had just said he just said what they did but thought the guards took advantage of their drunken state, probably what happened because the guards walked away with at least $20 extra dollars guilty of taken advantage of drunk people at the worst. Had the guards really wanted to "rob" the men they had the opportunity to according to the third party but the extra money paid seem mutual just to end the altercation.

Anyway, law enforcement stepped in to investigate both sides after Lochte said he was robbed. Lochte left the other guys behind left to deal with the situation. Seeing how their boy abandoned them and they just wanted to go home they settled, fighting the claims wouldn't have gained them anything but how could they even argue against what Lochte said on national TV and Lochte wasn't there to say it was all his doing (the lie). They could wait for the guards to be investigated too but at most they'd get the difference back at the cost of spending unwanted time in Brazil, just not worth it.

The only thing Lochte did was throw his mates under the bus and fail to take responsibility for his role in the incident. Shining an unjust bad light on Rio and the Olympics when they already have enough to worry about. Lochte’s exaggeration launched a serious investigation that wasn't warranted. Had the same thing happened to anyone else (apart from the lie), they would have been told to take it as a lesson learned and don't get drunk in foreign place.

The quote this site again

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes

If people from another country came to the US and did what Lochte and his clan did you'd see people on this site nation bashing like the offenders committed and act of war.

[hellinter201]

A retarded "american" (I'm starting to think this is a pleonasm) did "american" things, then pulled the "american" card out of his ass and ran like a bitch. Anyway, to the "americans" that think that all latin countries have corrupt police forces, there are quite a few examples out there that, if you actually weren't with your heads so deep into your asses, would suffice.

I thought that the poll that showed quite a few "americans" didn't know the Earth orbited around the sun was BS, but I'm starting to think it is actually optimistic.

[satimy]

You really want to talk the facts then let's talk the facts.

Lochte and his gang did pass on the building, the did tear up a poster, which is vandalism, and they did try to bounce out of there without paying for damages.

There were stopped by security and and told to pay, guns were pulled when they refused. A third party got involved to translate between Lochte and his crew and the security guards, who had identified themselves by then. The security guards told the 3rd party what they owed, 100 what Brazilian money is. The language barrier between the 3 parties and trying to figure out the exchange rate is what caused a lot of confusion.

One guy didn't have Brazil money but had a $20 so gave them a $20. The other had Brazilian money but was drunk and all parties were just about done at that point, gave a little more than 100, then all 3 parties agreed to go about their way. Could the guards have tried harder to get the exchange rate right? Yes but it's also understandable that they were just done with the altercation having to deal with drunk people they couldn't understand. The swimmers probably let it go because they were drunk, knew the messed up, and just wanted to go.

Next morning Lochte claimed that he was robbed at gun point, completely overexaggerting what actually we t on and why they were stopped in the first place. Hell, people would have listened to him if he had just said he just said what they did but thought the guards took advantage of their drunken state, probably what happened because the guards walked away with at least $20 extra dollars guilty of taken advantage of drunk people at the worst. Had the guards really wanted to "rob" the men they had the opportunity to according to the third party but the extra money paid seem mutual just to end the altercation.

Anyway, law enforcement stepped in to investigate both sides after Lochte said he was robbed. Lochte left the other guys behind left to deal with the situation. Seeing how their boy abandoned them and they just wanted to go home they settled, fighting the claims wouldn't have gained them anything but how could they even argue against what Lochte said on national TV and Lochte wasn't there to say it was all his doing (the lie). They could wait for the guards to be investigated too but at most they'd get the difference back at the cost of spending unwanted time in Brazil, just not worth it.

The only thing Lochte did was throw his mates under the bus and fail to take responsibility for his role in the incident. Shining an unjust bad light on Rio and the Olympics when they already have enough to worry about. Lochte’s exaggeration launched a serious investigation that wasn't warranted. Had the same thing happened to anyone else (apart from the lie), they would have been told to take it as a lesson learned and don't get drunk in foreign place.

The quote this site again



If people from another country came to the US and did what Lochte and his clan did you'd see people on this site nation bashing like the offenders committed and act of war.

Peeing in public definitely would get the FBI called

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Pretty sure lying about a crime publicly is illegal in the US